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To wonder how you get by on SSP?

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CanItReallyBeSo · 15/06/2024 14:59

Posting for traffic...

Mate of mine has chopped off the end of several fingers at work and been off for three weeks now. Going to be a few more as needs an op and his job is quite physical (construction).

He told me today he's only getting SSP which would go on for up to three months, although he shouldn't be off that long. Looking online it's only £88 a week and taxable. His monthly mortgage is £1200.

How do people with a normal lifestyle get by in the fallout to an industrial accident? Seems only option is using savings or accruing debt. Even UC isn't much extra I'm assuming.

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Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 22:41

TidalShore · 15/06/2024 22:35

Right. But CIC and life insurance is not going to pay out for OP's friend. Or the many other short to medium term illnesses that people end up having to go on SSP for.

So can you enlighten us of a decent income protection insurance which is affordable for people with long term health conditions? Because my broker couldn't find one.

And to add I wasn't talking about OPs friend - that would have been solved with IP.

Hankunamatata · 15/06/2024 22:41

We had to take out income protection with our morgage years ago. I guess that isn't the case these days

Houseofdragonsisback · 15/06/2024 22:55

Income protection insurance premiums are usually fairly high regardless and many people don’t ever use it. It doesn’t cover getting the sack or redundancy. I think maybe 5% of people have it.

Critical illness is cheaper but obviously only covers you for a period of time & it doesn’t cover you for every illness eg many don’t cover cancer unless it’s a certain severity.

TidalShore · 15/06/2024 23:00

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 22:40

Depends what the health conditions are. There are alternatives such as met life, Hospital cash plans and many others.

What's different about Met Life? They don't look to offer anything for chronic illness particularly. Hospital cash plans look to pay for medical fees - thankfully with the NHS I only need pay my prescription certificate! But what I can't get is any sort of income protection to supplement SSP, which is what this thread is about.

And yes, IP could have helped the OP's friend - assuming they could get it and don't, like myself and others on this post, have any sort of underlying health conditions that effectively exclude them from accessing it.

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 23:47

TidalShore · 15/06/2024 23:00

What's different about Met Life? They don't look to offer anything for chronic illness particularly. Hospital cash plans look to pay for medical fees - thankfully with the NHS I only need pay my prescription certificate! But what I can't get is any sort of income protection to supplement SSP, which is what this thread is about.

And yes, IP could have helped the OP's friend - assuming they could get it and don't, like myself and others on this post, have any sort of underlying health conditions that effectively exclude them from accessing it.

You could get an alternative- there are loads. If you see a good FA or broker they'll find you something. If you've had the condition lifelong and could never have had IP then I feel for you but for the majority they developed a condition and would have been ok had they set up IP before getting ill. Which is what I'm banging on about. There are always people who are the exception to the rule.

IDontHateRainbows · 16/06/2024 16:35

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 23:47

You could get an alternative- there are loads. If you see a good FA or broker they'll find you something. If you've had the condition lifelong and could never have had IP then I feel for you but for the majority they developed a condition and would have been ok had they set up IP before getting ill. Which is what I'm banging on about. There are always people who are the exception to the rule.

Yep silly me I should have got critical illness cover before developing diabetes at the age of 15....

CanItReallyBeSo · 16/06/2024 16:48

taxguru · 15/06/2024 15:46

If SSP is to be increased, then the Govt will have to pay it again. For the last few years, SSP has to be paid entirely by the employer since the Govt changed the rules and stopped financing any of it. Employers, especially small ones, can't afford to pay higher SSP, on top of higher minimum wage, higher employers NIC, statutory employers workplace pension contributions and all the other ever increasing employment costs/burdens.

I agree with other posters that it's time people started taking responsibility for themselves and taking out income protection insurance.

But could you not use the same argument to abolish Jobseekers Allowance? That'd save a lot more money.

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CanItReallyBeSo · 16/06/2024 16:52

CassandraWebb · 15/06/2024 15:50

I'm confused whether it's you, or a "mate" as you say "we've done toolbox talks"? Or is it a work colleague?

Anyway, I am not sure how you survive if you don't have savings or insurance. Good employers pay better than SSP.

He probably should seek advice on whether he can claim though as the work place will have insurance. And if the were decent they wouldn't just pay SSP so I am not sure the business is his "*good mate" if it only pays SSP

Edited

I thought I explained it was a friend?

Yes, we've don't toolbox talks at the company I work for (not the same employer as his) but some are just to avoid injury rather than to cover arses.

I could be wrong but I'd have thought you'd struggle to get a payout for stepping in a pothole while not watching your step.

OP posts:
Hinkuy · 16/06/2024 17:25

IDontHateRainbows · 16/06/2024 16:35

Yep silly me I should have got critical illness cover before developing diabetes at the age of 15....

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CanItReallyBeSo · 16/06/2024 19:18

Well, happy ending as far as can be. The boss has returned and said he's going to work something out for him. 🙌

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OnTheBoardwalk · 16/06/2024 20:23

CanItReallyBeSo · 16/06/2024 19:18

Well, happy ending as far as can be. The boss has returned and said he's going to work something out for him. 🙌

Sorry @CanItReallyBeSo this isn’t a happy ending for a life changing injury. The boss will just slip him a couple of quid to get him over the next couple of weeks

he really needs professional advice

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