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AIBU to turn down a promotion...

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spukalili · 12/06/2024 18:37

I have two young children - a 3 year old and a 1 year old. I returned to work at the start of this month after having a year off. I am very fortunate in that my current job is extremely flexible - I work from home for 2 days a week, office based twice a week, then have every Friday off (plus weekends). I get 31 days of leave and the salary is reasonable for the position. The only drawback is that there is little room for progression, I'm at the top of my band and it's around 45mins to an hour drive from home, depending on traffic.

While I was on maternity leave, a job that I had been waiting to be created, became available. Unfortunately, we had a restructure, meaning I couldn't apply. I was gutted, tried looking around for similar roles and coincidently found one in an organisation closer to me. I applied and was offered the job. It starts on a lower salary than I'm currently on (just) but provides me with the opportunity to develop my career and move into management.

I met with the manager to provide some documents and I'm suddenly really torn about whether this is the right move for me, at this point in my life. He seemed great, the team is well established, and it will be a really challenging role for me.

Problem is...I'd be in the office 5 days a week, set times, between 8am - 4pm. I'd need to put my children in childcare for another day, costing me around £400 a month. There is scope to work from home, but obviously not immediately until I was settled in the team. It's closer than my current job, but still a rubbish drive, and the additional office days would cancel out any savings in fuel. The probationary period is a whopping 12 months (although I'd get continuous service, so I'm protected in terms of redundancy, mat pay, sick pay, etc).

I think if they'd agreed to my salary request I could have justified the move, but they'd only agreed to match my current salary (which is fair enough). That said, I work in an incredibly niche area, so the chance of something coming up again in the near future, so close to home, is fairly unlikely.

It would be a difficult year. We'd have less money, I'd have less time with my children. I couldn't apply for any kind of flexible working until next September, at which point my oldest would be at school anyway.

Am I being unreasonable by turning the job down? Should I be focusing on furthering my career, or being available for my children while they are so little? I've been told that this time goes so quickly so I'm reluctant to miss anything I don't have to, but also, I'm worried that this might be a good opportunity I'm passing by.

I appreciate it's a privileged position to be in, but I just need some input from other parents who may have had to make a similar decision.

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spukalili · 12/06/2024 22:22

Ioverslept · 12/06/2024 22:10

What about a different day of the week? Anyway, I sense you are not too keen on this new role but understand you feel torn. Regarding childcare, I guess school holidays would be a challenge anyway, as they are for most working parents. I personally would probably stay put but would also probably always wonder if it was the right thing to do. What does your partner say? Whatever you decide, try to be happy with the decision and focus on the positives. Good luck!

Thank you!

Any other day of the week would result in us having to move current childcare around and both children are really settled where they are. I'd be reluctant to do any other day.

I love the idea of the role, as it's what I've been training/waiting for, for years! I think it would be a welcome challenge for me, and I do think it would help me develop my career over the long term - but I suppose I'm nervous to lose the very secure, safe and familiar place I'm currently in. It isn't the most stimulating thing, but perhaps that's what I need with two small terrors running around.

I've never really been "unhappy" in this job, and I've been here for 8 years. I can't even imagine how it would feel if I didn't want to go to work, or if my work caused me genuine anxiety. I suppose I can't guarantee that this job will be what I expect, that I'll be any good at it, or that it will eventually shape around my life in a manageable way, and that's where the doubt has come in. It's great on paper - new opportunity, I did great at the interview which boosted my confidence, but in reality it isn't as straight forward!

Partner has been super supportive from the beginning, told me he was happy to pick up the slack at home in terms of childcare and housework and he thinks it was a great opportunity for me. But he was a bit miffed when my (reasonable) request for a slight increase on my starting salary was refused. He thinks they know how challenging the role is, how niche the skillset is, and how highly qualified I am, and that they're not making an effort to meet me half way. I explained that generally, that isn't how employers work, and they just have a service to run and budget constraints. Overall, he's supportive of whatever I choose, but I just want someone to tell me what to do 😂

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Summerslimm · 13/06/2024 06:28

If it was me I wouldn’t give up that flexibility of 2 days from home and a day off not when the kids are so young. It sucks and is very much the “mother” penalty at work but the sad reality is kids do need a parent to look after them when they are sick &!someone to facilitate all the input needed to attend primary school it’s more full on than nursery from my experience with two kids who are now teens There will be another opportunity to push your career again but personally I’d wait until kids a bit older and settled into the school routine. There may not be space in the school breakfast club or after school club or your kids may hate it or be exhausted at end of school day and not cope with it. For no financial gain it wouldn’t be worth it for me. Good luck I hope you can make it work for you.

FleetwoodMacAttack · 13/06/2024 08:35

I think there’s a really important other factor here - do you have back up infallible childcare if one of your kids are ill?

You mention your DH having to be in a physical place of work. If that means you’ll end up with picking up majority of sickness days (which is tough as the higher earner / as I am - because Manager expectations are often high) there’s no way I’d risk you not having a day off/ability to flex your hours.

spukalili · 13/06/2024 08:52

FleetwoodMacAttack · 13/06/2024 08:35

I think there’s a really important other factor here - do you have back up infallible childcare if one of your kids are ill?

You mention your DH having to be in a physical place of work. If that means you’ll end up with picking up majority of sickness days (which is tough as the higher earner / as I am - because Manager expectations are often high) there’s no way I’d risk you not having a day off/ability to flex your hours.

Thank you for your reply.

I do have my mum, but she is a far cry from "infallible". She lives just over an hour away and is in her mid-seventies. As amazing as she is, and as lucky as we are to have her there if we need her, I wouldn't like to think that was our only option (and unfortunately, it is).

Our childminder is incredibly reliable, has never taken a sick day (and she's been doing it for over 30 years!) but again, you can't bet on that.

You make a really good point about the flexibility. I'd feel so guilty if I started this role and then had to call in to tell them I couldn't come in. With two children under 4, the chances of illness are fairly high, and I don't think I'd get through a year without having at least one bout of illness spreading through the household!

At the moment I just send a quick message on Teams and I'm not bothered for the rest of the day. This absolutely wouldn't be possible in the management role.

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LoveSkaMusic · 13/06/2024 10:22

For me, it'd be a hard no.

It's not a promotion if there's less pay. Also, the lack of flexibility is really poor.

If they want to give you less flexibility over your current job, then to attract you to join them, they should be paying enough money to cover it, and then some more.

You cannot join a company and upend your life on the basis that you might get a promotion in a year's time. It may not materialise and then you're screwed.

I would go back to them and explain that the risk is too great on the salary they've offered. Go back to them with a figure that works for you and politely state that as much as you'd like to join them, you'll be unable to do so without either flexibility on WFH or a stronger salary offer.

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