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Should I tell my solicitor he's lying?

19 replies

youngtrees · 11/06/2024 14:09

My ex husband has finally filled out what's needed for a clean break order....only he's lied through the whole form.

None of this affects me directly as such. He claims he has zero pensions. This is not true. He has a pension and I am the named beneficiary on it. It's probably only worth about 5k and I don't want any of it but never the less...he's lied and I have declared mine.

I believe he's also lied about his income, he has put less than what it is. He has also completely left blank the part about child maintenance for our son.

This has taken 6 months to get him to fill out this form. I don't want anything from him - he's actually put he's 20k in debt which I also believe to be more.

I don't really know why im frustrated. Just annoyed to see he's lied on the form. However i don't want to make things more complicated than they have been. Hes filled out the form at the end of the day.

Should I just stay quiet?

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FakeMiddleton · 11/06/2024 14:28

youngtrees · 11/06/2024 14:09

My ex husband has finally filled out what's needed for a clean break order....only he's lied through the whole form.

None of this affects me directly as such. He claims he has zero pensions. This is not true. He has a pension and I am the named beneficiary on it. It's probably only worth about 5k and I don't want any of it but never the less...he's lied and I have declared mine.

I believe he's also lied about his income, he has put less than what it is. He has also completely left blank the part about child maintenance for our son.

This has taken 6 months to get him to fill out this form. I don't want anything from him - he's actually put he's 20k in debt which I also believe to be more.

I don't really know why im frustrated. Just annoyed to see he's lied on the form. However i don't want to make things more complicated than they have been. Hes filled out the form at the end of the day.

Should I just stay quiet?

Leave it.

If you don't need the money, and you definitely just want to be away from him, then that's the real win.

Go enjoy your life!

I sympathise - my ex husband lied too, but I just thought "£200k or my surname back. Take my surname, thanks!"

Disclaimer: have no clue of legal repercussions for you re either route

BookArt · 11/06/2024 14:29

From my very limited experience and I not married tell your solicitor everything so they can advise you. Me and my ex came up with a number we both agreed for the house which was in the middle of three valuations. Later on when he threw his toys out of the pram he said I had lied by stating that amount and put the higher valuation... Other small things that I had not called him out on are now being used against me, as like you, I didn't want to rock the boat after every little thing if it didn't affect me.

JurassicFantastic · 11/06/2024 14:31

Definitely tell your solicitor. It's still up to you whether you do anything about it but your solicitor can't advise you properly - including of any possible consequences for you - if you aren't open with them.

bombastix · 11/06/2024 14:36

Tell your solicitor- you may not want anything but ime people who lie in these circumstances certainly do and mostly to your detriment

caringcarer · 11/06/2024 15:50

Tell your solicitor.

TinkerTiger · 11/06/2024 15:52

Another vote for tell. It's not your job to
Hold men accountable, but if you don't mind doing it then do. Fucker.

Witchbitch20 · 11/06/2024 15:52

You are paying your solicitor.
Tell them.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 11/06/2024 15:54

Can the solicitor check if the debt is in his sole name ? You don’t want be chased because he got credit in joint or your name.

Resilience · 11/06/2024 15:55

Tell your solicitor. The last thing you want is XH having a claim on your pension because it's been noted he doesn't have one while you do...

BuggeryBumFlaps · 11/06/2024 15:57

Yes tell your solicitor

Even with a clean break, it still has to go via a judge. If the judge deems that it's unfair, such as your ex has no pension and lots of debt, he may request you take on more of the debt to even it out.

Might not seem important now but imagine you have a 20k pension and he's got zero, and he's got 20k debt and you have none - to make it fair it might be that you have to take on the £20000 debt to make it fairs

FictionalCharacter · 11/06/2024 15:59

Resilience · 11/06/2024 15:55

Tell your solicitor. The last thing you want is XH having a claim on your pension because it's been noted he doesn't have one while you do...

Absolutely. He’s falsely claimed he has no pension and a lower income than he does have. Your acceptance of the lies means you’re agreeing with them. He could use these false numbers against you.

Indigococo84 · 11/06/2024 16:18

Honestly I’d leave it. If it’s not going to affect you then it could just delay things.

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 11/06/2024 16:22

You might not want anything but the lies make me suspicious that your exH does. If he has debt and no pension, the judge could say that you need to compensate him half your pension and even pay half the debt. Tell your solicitor and they can advise you best.

IItisymoi · 11/06/2024 16:37

First reading your post I thought you meant the SOLICITOR was lying.
I have been left with physical and mental disability with suicidal thoughts because various solicitors lied during an inheritance case. After 2 years I received the Boxes of paperwork relating to the case which neatly prove that the first solicitors were lying and were covering up their own mistakes. I was banned from MN because I named the Solicitors involved. to make matters a lot worse the Legal Ombudsman refused to even look at my case and literally said (emailed) that my life is worth 100 quid and therefore logically should just go ahead and kill myself. The stress led to a stroke from which I have partly trecovered but a MRI scan in January confirmed brain damage. A second solicitor firm compounded matters by taking my inheritance for work they said they did but have never submitted evidence of what they claim to have done.

youngtrees · 13/06/2024 16:18

I wanted to re visit this thread to update.

My solicitor did end up going back to my solicitor and she asked my ex husband to update his answers for his form. He has continued to lie.

He still says he has no pension - he has emailed my solicitor confirming this. Even though my solicitor told him it was fine if he didn't know his pension value, it would just be useful to note down that he had one and how important it is that he is truthful as it is a court document. He has still lied.

He has also given false figures for the child maintenance he gives to his other children.

My solicitor has forwarded what he has said on to me.

I have told her he still is not being truthful. My solicitor has said there is nothing else I can do and that she will submit everything to the court with an additional note.

I don't know what she means by additional note.

Has anyone experienced this?

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SensualDecay · 13/06/2024 16:52

You need to be a bit careful with this stuff. I said I didn't want any of my ex husband's money (I just wanted him to fuck off and let me live my life) and then courts queried the agreement and we had to have a hearing. Several, actually.

You might want to calculate what you're actually entitled to. Are you going to lose out on a share of martial assets or is there nothing to split?

youngtrees · 13/06/2024 17:00

SensualDecay · 13/06/2024 16:52

You need to be a bit careful with this stuff. I said I didn't want any of my ex husband's money (I just wanted him to fuck off and let me live my life) and then courts queried the agreement and we had to have a hearing. Several, actually.

You might want to calculate what you're actually entitled to. Are you going to lose out on a share of martial assets or is there nothing to split?

No, absolutely nothing. We split our savings 50/50 (he spent his half, I still have mine). No mortgage. I am also giving him a small lump sum of money to actually get him to fill out the order - he's getting 3.5k off me.

He's in a hell of a lot of debt hence why I want the financial order. He's a gambling addict.

I'm a single mum of 3 kids with additional needs. I work part time and I am financially comfortable. I am better off financially than he is even though he is self employed on over £1000 a week.

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SensualDecay · 13/06/2024 17:06

Have you given him the 3.5k already? I'd be inclined to only pay if he filled it in truthfully.

But you know, I knew my ex husband had accounts other than those declared and I let it go because I knew he was declaring the one with most money in.

What is the problematic result if he gets away with lying? It seems like you just want to be financially disassociated from him, so I don't really understand why you're focusing on what he's written.

youngtrees · 13/06/2024 17:37

SensualDecay · 13/06/2024 17:06

Have you given him the 3.5k already? I'd be inclined to only pay if he filled it in truthfully.

But you know, I knew my ex husband had accounts other than those declared and I let it go because I knew he was declaring the one with most money in.

What is the problematic result if he gets away with lying? It seems like you just want to be financially disassociated from him, so I don't really understand why you're focusing on what he's written.

Oh you are right - I do want to just be financially free of him and that is all that matters.

But this man has put me through hell. It's still an absolute nightmare to get him to pay child maintenance (I have been to cms) so the fact he didn't bother to include this on the form is very frustrating- for my sons sake more than anything.

I don't know why I expected him to be truthful. I didn't if I'm honest. It's just I'm constantly on edge until the divorce is finalised.

I really am pissed off that yet again he's got away with lying too when I have been completely truthful. I know it's not the end of the world but....yeah.

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