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Paula Vennells was done the other week, the Post Office Inquiry is now questioning associates and others - thread 3

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nauticant · 11/06/2024 06:23

A continuation of this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5081592-paula-vennels-being-questioned-at-the-post-office-inquiry-followed-by-others-thread-2

When the hearings are going on, live-streaming can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

All of the previous hearings can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos

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nauticant · 21/06/2024 13:39

In case anyone wants to get more stuck in to this, Nick Wallis does live events, and a modest donation, that supports his journalism, gets you on the mailing list for his informative and often entertaining "secret" newsletter:

https://www.postofficescandal.uk/live-events/

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nauticant · 21/06/2024 13:46

This was interesting from the NFSP a month ago:

https://nfsp.org.uk/news/view?name=nfsp-statement-on-latest-from-horizon-inquiry

Meanwhile, Thomson remains deep in Onoda's Syndrome.

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nauticant · 21/06/2024 14:01

Thomson rubbished subpostmasters' litigation lawyers Freeths. His view in 2026:"Legally a contract does not have to be fair."

At took an hour for me to forget what a nasty piece of work he is.

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minou123 · 21/06/2024 14:02

"Legally contracts dont have to be fair"

INAL but surely that is not true.

AutumnCrow · 21/06/2024 14:07

Unfair Contracts Act, surely? Which is well old.

nauticant · 21/06/2024 14:07

Andy Parsons emerges from his burrow with dirty tricks behind the scenes to keep subpostmasters in the dark.

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Quebeccles · 21/06/2024 14:08

Yep, Parsons at it again. As per.

Lunde · 21/06/2024 14:09

He is so emmeshed with the legal games ... and being a lapdog he was so eager to play POL games

nauticant · 21/06/2024 14:11

Would it surprise the thread to hear that Thomson held the PR guy, Mark Davies, in high regard?

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minou123 · 21/06/2024 14:12

This is not "This Is Your Life" George.

Nobody is giving you any awards and nobody cares about all the other work you did

Lunde · 21/06/2024 14:12

And also POL's media strategy directing NFSP to contact journalists and spin a pro-POL and pro-Horizon line

AutumnCrow · 21/06/2024 14:12

'I make no apology' again
'We work closely with the Post Office' again
Bloody hell

Quebeccles · 21/06/2024 14:13

He was so sickeningly eager to be part of their little cabal. It’s actually disturbing to hear.

minou123 · 21/06/2024 14:14

nauticant · 21/06/2024 14:11

Would it surprise the thread to hear that Thomson held the PR guy, Mark Davies, in high regard?

Personally, I am shooketh.

I has no idea Thomson held Post Office Executives in high regard.
Complete surprise.

nauticant · 21/06/2024 14:15

Ooh, that email from Mark Davies revealing Thomson as Post Office's creature working as an informant.

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AutumnCrow · 21/06/2024 14:15

I'm getting a strong vibe of a man sucking up to people he regarded as his socially superior friends.

AutumnCrow · 21/06/2024 14:17

I like the way Mr Blake is simply ignoring Thomson when he testily says things like, 'I've already told you that 7 or 8 times today'.

Lunde · 21/06/2024 14:18

He just cannot admit to being wrong ... about anything

prh47bridge · 21/06/2024 14:21

minou123 · 21/06/2024 14:02

"Legally contracts dont have to be fair"

INAL but surely that is not true.

It is true in some circumstances. If the parties are doing business using one party's standard terms of business, the contract must be fair. However, if the parties have negotiated the contract, there is no requirement for it to be fair.

In Bates vs Post Office, the Post Office tried to argue that the subpostmasters contract could not be their standard terms of business as they weren't in the business of running sub-post offices. The judge, quite rightly, rejected this argument. So, whilst Thomson is correct that contracts don't have to be fair, he was wrong in thinking that the subpostmasters contract didn't have to be fair.

AutumnCrow · 21/06/2024 14:23

No Mr Henry <sad>

Quebeccles · 21/06/2024 14:24

Barbed little joke there

nauticant · 21/06/2024 14:24

Ha, Blake nicely links his final question back to the very start of his cross-examination and points out that Thomson was at his toadiest, working covertly for the Post Office PR machine, when he was negotiating to get a load of money out of Post Office. Blake ends with that hanging in the air.

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Lunde · 21/06/2024 14:24

Mr Steen!