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To ask school to stop sending me these texts?

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SquiglePig · 10/06/2024 10:51

I have 3 kids in same high-school.

They've started to send texts to parents everytime a child is late to a lesson, basically saying 'your child is late for lesson, please don't allow this to happen again etc'

My kids are never late to school in the mornings, ever.

It's my responsibility to get them into school on time, which I do.

I've had the discussion with them about getting to lessons on time but what can I actually do?

I feel like once they're on school grounds I don't really have physical control over how long it takes them to get to lessons even though I keep telling them.

Also it's not a text to my phone it's a text via the school messaging system which means I have to log in to see it.

I'm at work and I don't know if it's something important or not and have to check and I can get in trouble for being on my phone too much.

Please don't think this is me saying I have no responsibility over my children's behaviour in school, of course I do but I feel that I do not need to recieve a text every time one of them is late to arrive to a lesson when I've got them into school on time.

In my day there were teachers in the hall to usher kids to their lessons?

OP posts:
LlamaTwirl · 14/06/2024 22:34

Combattingthemoaners · 14/06/2024 22:18

We do. Parents ring up and say they’re not doing them or believe their child “only went to the toilet” or “the corridors were busy” or “their friend was upset so they walked them to lesson” and every other excuse children come up with. Lots of parents don’t support the school’s sanction policy and don’t want to sanction their own children at home either so behaviour/punctuality never improves.

It doesn't sound like the op would have given the school any of those excuses though so she (and presumably numerous other parents) are being inundated with loads of unnecessary messages because some parents are slack and don't back up the school when they should.

justasking111 · 14/06/2024 22:55

Combattingthemoaners · 14/06/2024 22:15

And yet we wonder why so many teachers are leaving and your children end up with supply teachers……

When a reception child becomes so distressed after weeks of this particular dripping tap moaning Myrtle teacher that they climb a fence to escape school then I'd rather they had a supply teacher than the one than her .

Who I might add many parents complained about quietly mostly and some in the know refused to let their child attend that particular class. One little one used to wet herself when told off. Even other teachers in adjoining classroom would step in when they heard certain comments from this b awful woman.

Combattingthemoaners · 15/06/2024 05:01

LlamaTwirl · 14/06/2024 22:34

It doesn't sound like the op would have given the school any of those excuses though so she (and presumably numerous other parents) are being inundated with loads of unnecessary messages because some parents are slack and don't back up the school when they should.

It isn’t unnecessary. Her children are arriving to lessons late. They will be receiving punishments from teachers but as a parent it is her responsibility to get them to stop doing this too. One of the main reasons I behaved at school was because I knew I’d be punished at home if I got into trouble. I’m not sure when or why the shift has changed into “not my responsibility when they’re at school”. They are! You brought them into this world so they are your responsibility. Schools are there to educate not constantly tolerate poor manners and behaviour.

Combattingthemoaners · 15/06/2024 05:06

justasking111 · 14/06/2024 22:55

When a reception child becomes so distressed after weeks of this particular dripping tap moaning Myrtle teacher that they climb a fence to escape school then I'd rather they had a supply teacher than the one than her .

Who I might add many parents complained about quietly mostly and some in the know refused to let their child attend that particular class. One little one used to wet herself when told off. Even other teachers in adjoining classroom would step in when they heard certain comments from this b awful woman.

There are awful teachers. In the same way there are awful anything. However, the notion that when your son drops off his child at school they’re not his responsibility anymore isn’t correct.

NoThanksymm · 15/06/2024 05:23

I wouldn’t check. If it’s important they will call.

or drop the kids at their lessons and make the teachers sign for them- lol

Sadza · 15/06/2024 08:16

Please don’t think this is me saying I have no responsibility over my child……

This is your responsibility. Sort it out. It’s an easy one.

Combattingthemoaners · 15/06/2024 09:30

Sadza · 15/06/2024 08:16

Please don’t think this is me saying I have no responsibility over my child……

This is your responsibility. Sort it out. It’s an easy one.

How is it only the schools responsibility to teach your children the importance of punctuality? It needs to be a combined approach or it isn’t easy to “sort it out”. We are talking about hundreds of students and often very lovely students.

Hii93 · 15/06/2024 18:06

If you have responsibility over their behaviour why are they still being late

MauveOrPossiblyTaupe · 15/06/2024 19:27

Schools are there to provide childcare during school hours. Honestly it's pathetic they're abdicating that responsility.

FTMaz · 15/06/2024 21:51

When I was teaching this was a well know technique…piss the parents off so their kids stop pissing us off 😂

NuNameNuMe · 15/06/2024 22:19

If you have responsibility over their behaviour why are they still being late

You tell me!? Possibly because a parent at work miles away from the school cannot in the moment, drag said child to class. A talk later in the day is no substitute for an immediate sanction and bollocking there and then. I had this BS years ago. I gave my permission for the teachers to throw the fucking board rubber at the child when they played up, but apparently old school hard bastardry was not the preferred pedagogical method even twenty years ago.

Moglet4 · 16/06/2024 07:35

justasking111 · 14/06/2024 12:55

My DIL got in quite a state two years ago, because she and other mums and grandparents were accosted at picking up time day after day by some teachers. Bearing in mind this was reception and year one.

"Mrs Jones, Sean didn't sit on the mat nicely, didn't sing along, was blah blah."

My son eventually went in when the head yet again asked for a meeting. He was quite blunt after listening to her and said.

"When my children are dropped off they're your responsibility until 3pm we'll take care of the rest"

Things settled down miraculously after this.

I really don’t think I’d be advertising your son’s poor behaviour like that if I were you

crochetmonkey74 · 16/06/2024 07:48

So we stand in the corridor and bark at them to get to class, cue parental emails later saying we humiliated them, we singled them out, they had to go to the toilet as they were on their period (here's a bit of insider info, teenagers lie)
Or school has an automated system that sends a notification, to protect their staff and monitor their lates as directed by DfE. Then that is still wrong.
3 schools in my area are now investigating bodycam for teachers as a result of the increasing lying by teenagers blindly supported by parents. It's wearing and upsetting.
I'll give you an example from the last week that personally happened to me.
Student disengaged in lesson , off task. 3 gentle reminders "come on, try your best to get something down" student becomes silly with those nearby, some noise and swearing. I move student to teacher next door as per behaviour policy. All without harsh words or raised voice . Explain task again and return to my class. All normal..
I receive an email to me and the head later that night. I'm a bully , I screamed at her, she wAs upset as she asked me to go to the toilet and I refused and she was on her period (nome of this happened) the demerits need to be removed etc etc
I then spend my morning being interviewed by the head and statements taken from class. Mum doesn't apologise when clear the girl.lied.
THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON.. teachers are now dealing with this regularly. It is unsustainable.

justasking111 · 16/06/2024 09:04

FTMaz · 15/06/2024 21:51

When I was teaching this was a well know technique…piss the parents off so their kids stop pissing us off 😂

😂😂😂

jwilson22 · 16/06/2024 13:45

sixtyandsomething · 10/06/2024 10:59

what teachers have time to usher? And why should they? it sounds like a serious attitude problem with your kids, and is likely to be indicative of other problems with organisation and compliance. I don't think you are taking it seriously enough, particularly with your comment of suggesting it is up to teachers to "usher". Students who are regularly late end up in all sorts of other trouble

Every teacher had time to usher when I went to school and they did every lesson of every day

crochetmonkey74 · 16/06/2024 15:42

jwilson22 · 16/06/2024 13:45

Every teacher had time to usher when I went to school and they did every lesson of every day

We do. By the time you get to register, you have met them at the door, sat the class down, welcomed them and started the register. If they are late after that, they are really late

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 16/06/2024 16:55

jwilson22 · 16/06/2024 13:45

Every teacher had time to usher when I went to school and they did every lesson of every day

My school does not have a changeover time- we're a small enough building, so it should not take kids more than 1-2 minutes to get from one class to another. When my lesson A ends, the other one finishes. I am not ushering anyone because I am opening my next powerpoint- I go to the door, get the kids in, if I see someone in the corridor I tell them to hurry up. I would expect kids 11yo and up not need additional assistance to get to their lessons.

Justonemorecoffeeplease · 16/06/2024 19:12

@crochetmonkey74 you’ve hit the nail on the head there. Also,in secondary school we teach in the region of 150-200 different students a week. The idea that I’ll have to time to administer immediate sanctions for the handful in every class that are late to every lesson is simply not practical. Just in case anyone thinks we have time at break and lunchtime we are running clubs/interventions/department detentions/duties/prepping/marking. I think I’ve sat and had a coffee in our departmental office about twice this year.

Reading some of the comments in this thread is utterly depressing and it really shines a light on how much we need to shift the focus on valuing schools.

There are some dodgy schools and teachers out there and I’ve sometimes complained politely and reasonably but the ‘not our problem’ attitudes of some parents is impossible to deal with.

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