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Child arrangements and being blocked

23 replies

lalaloopsy83 · 07/06/2024 18:52

Wonder if anyone can help me. My ex husband has moved to a different country but still has my child every other weekend (that's when he can stick to the schedule, but that's a different story).
He's recently blocked me everywhere from social to phone. I'm not happy about this incase there was an emergency or child needed to talk to me. What can I do here, or do I just put up with another form of his narcissism?

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Brushmyteeth · 07/06/2024 18:56

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Spirallingdownwards · 07/06/2024 18:56

Other than go back to court to get it court ordered refuse to hand them over. I would never usually say this but with him taking them abroad I just wouldn't let him have them whilst acting this way.

lalaloopsy83 · 07/06/2024 19:04

It's not abroad, but a different country that he drives to and from. He moved there to live with his new girlfriend and her kids, but I have not been given the address. With no way of contacting or knowing where my child is, would I have grounds to withhold contact?

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JanglyBeads · 07/06/2024 19:08

I'd think so.
How old is your child?

Do you mean a UK country?

lalaloopsy83 · 07/06/2024 19:09

The child is 5 years old and I'm in the uk, he's not

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LaurieFairyCake · 07/06/2024 19:10

How old?

If a baby you may have a point but if older than 2 you don't need to know where they are

Just like you could go on holiday and not tell him either

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 07/06/2024 19:12

If he’s not in the UK he cannot take you child to his house without you giving permission

GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 07/06/2024 19:14

Is he taking your child to ROI or NI by any chance @lalaloopsy83

lalaloopsy83 · 07/06/2024 19:14

I've taken the kids on holiday, and had to get a permission slip from him incase I got asked for it at the airport travelling as a lone parent. How does he get more rights than myself in knowing where our kids are?

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lalaloopsy83 · 07/06/2024 19:15

GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 07/06/2024 19:14

Is he taking your child to ROI or NI by any chance @lalaloopsy83

Yes

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GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 07/06/2024 19:22

@lalaloopsy83 I think in that case I'd maybe get legal advice and see what the law is behind taking a child across the border without the other parent's consent.

LaurieFairyCake · 07/06/2024 20:11

No, you get a permission slip to visit X country with the dates on

But no, he doesn't need your hotel details

Either of you can take them anywhere in the Uk without saying where

He's clearly a dick but this is not the hill to die on, you won't win Flowers

JanglyBeads · 07/06/2024 20:18

I wouldn't class knowing where your young child is when they are out of the UK as an optional extra/ hill to die on....

LaurieFairyCake · 07/06/2024 20:25

That's the point, he's taking them WITHIN the Uk, not out the Uk

So nipping to Wales for a weekend, no you don't need to know the address he takes them to

lalaloopsy83 · 07/06/2024 20:52

He's taking them out of the uk, I'm the one in the uk. The main issue now that I have is blocked communication incase of emergencies and how and if I can do anything about that?

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Cherrysoup · 07/06/2024 20:57

Clearly he’s being an arse, but if he has an issue, he could unblock you and if you have an emergency, he’ll find out if he tries to return your child.

LaurieFairyCake · 07/06/2024 21:10

If he's taking him to Northern Ireland then that's not out the Uk so no permission/address needed

If he's taken him to Europe ie. The Republic of Ireland then he will need permission

TheTartfulLodger · 07/06/2024 21:14

LaurieFairyCake · 07/06/2024 20:25

That's the point, he's taking them WITHIN the Uk, not out the Uk

So nipping to Wales for a weekend, no you don't need to know the address he takes them to

He isn't. The ROI is outside the UK. Only NI is part of the UK.

LaurieFairyCake · 07/06/2024 21:24

Yes, said that in last post

Op hasn't said whether it's Europe (roi) or NI (Uk)

Reugny · 07/06/2024 21:26

I'm not happy about this incase there was an emergency or child needed to talk to me.

If he had an emergency or the child needed to talk to you then he would simply unblock you.

If there is an emergency on your part then he will end up driving over and finding himself with your joint child for longer or not at all. Then he would have to deal with it.

My DP and his ex aren't allowed to communicate by phone accept in emergency involving their child. Due to her behaviour to him and third parties in his household she is blocked from all voice phone communication as well as coming to any address he lives. However he's only blocked from going to any address she lives but not phoning her. To cut a long story short their have never been any emergencies until their child had their own phone in secondary school.

The real issue you have and this you need to take paid legal advice on asap is him taking your child across the border out of the UK. As you may be implicitly giving him permission to take your joint child to any country without your explicit consent.

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 08/06/2024 07:54

Surely you can just keep their passport and say he can’t take them unless you know the address / have a way of contacting him?

romdowa · 08/06/2024 08:03

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 08/06/2024 07:54

Surely you can just keep their passport and say he can’t take them unless you know the address / have a way of contacting him?

He doesn't need a passport to take the child from Northern Ireland to the Republic, the border between the two is unmanned

fieldsofbutterflies · 08/06/2024 08:07

LaurieFairyCake · 07/06/2024 21:24

Yes, said that in last post

Op hasn't said whether it's Europe (roi) or NI (Uk)

She has.

She's in the UK, he is not. He's taking them over the border to the ROI.

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