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Upselling at Caffe Nero

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CoffeeQuery · 07/06/2024 13:15

Went to buy a coffee at a station this week. The server took my order and said very casually "Brazilian?"

I automatically agreed, then as she walked away realised they had a promotion on and it was an extra 40p. I said, in mock surprise "Did you just upsell me?" and she looked a bit weary and said "It's in my job description".

She was very happy to change it and I didn't at all want to make her job harder, but am I unreasonable to feel slightly pissed off with Caffe Nero? Station prices are quite high enough without randomly wacking another 40p on.

Or is this just standard practice now and I should get out more?

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Asparename · 07/06/2024 14:19

coffee #1 does the same. Barista asked if I wanted smooth, I noticed the price was the same as a large when I’d ordered a medium and queried it and got them to change to the normal coffee. I was with a large group and I checked with everyone and the barista had done the same with everyone. No one had noticed that they had been charged extra. I always decline now. It doesn’t taste any different anyway.

Ilovemyshed · 07/06/2024 14:21

Brazilian ... answer no, I usually go full Hollywood ...

Tbh upselling is pretty standardly annoying. W H Smith and Superdrug are pretty bad too.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 07/06/2024 14:35

Yeah upselling is supremely fucking annoying. Sick of being asked 'do you want Beyonce's perfume' (for £25!) in Savers, when I go to by some anti-histamines for a pound! Then when I go to B & M to buy a packet of pasta, I get them asking 'do you want also some batteries, or some stamps?' then in WH Smiths it's 'do you want a nearly out of date Terrys Chocolate Orange with your magazine?!' Drives me crazy. And many of the clothes shops want your email address to send you your receipt, and also ask if want 3 pairs of socks for £5, when I am buying an other item of clothing!

I noticed even charity shops starting to do something similar several years ago. I would spend £3,79 in there, and be asked to 'round up' to £4.00 for charity. I am already buying from your charity shop, where virtually everything you're selling you got for fucking free. Hmm They are expensive enough as it is now, never mind adding money on!!!

Anyway, they have stopped that now, and recently they have started trying to sell people a 'lottery ticket.' One pound! Every time you buy anything. You probably have fuck-all chance of winning anything.

Then every other shop asks for a contribution to 'charity' at the fucking checkout. Press red for no, green for yes. Then when you press green, press whatever number you want for your contribution. 1 for £1, 2 for £2, etc... SO MANY PLACES now asking for my money.

Then I came out of Morrisons yesterday, and was accosted by a fucking charity mugger (chugger) asking me to sign up to give £10 a month to them. No. NO. NO! Fucking leave me alone.

Why does everyone want their pound of flesh?!?!! Soooooooooo many people begging, chugging, scrounging, upselling. JUST FUCK OFF! Angry

pizzaHeart · 07/06/2024 14:45

I was quite confused when asked first time and asked what does it mean? And was explained about extra cost so refused.

CoffeeQuery · 07/06/2024 15:24

pizzaHeart · 07/06/2024 14:45

I was quite confused when asked first time and asked what does it mean? And was explained about extra cost so refused.

I think this is why I minded.

I'm quite used to being offered things I don't want and saying no. It is mildly irritating, slightly manipulative, but not dishonest.

This felt very unclear and somewhat covert. It wasn't at all obvious I was being offered a choice, let alone a higher priced option. More like they were telling me what the blend was. But I accept that if I was a regular, or even not rushing to get a coffee before I got a train, it would have been pretty obvious what I was being offered. I'll know next time.

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pizzaHeart · 07/06/2024 15:29

Yes it wasn’t clear at all its just because I’ve asked it was explained, otherwise I was about to say yes. And yes, it was somewhere in the board small letters at the very bottom. I don’t remember exactly but it was Nero or M&S

Chrysanthemum5 · 07/06/2024 15:30

I think Cafe Nero is particularly bad for this. One near my work has a server who asks if you'd like to try a cake. First time she said it to me I assumed she meant as a sample and she was most annoyed when I asked if that was what she was suggesting!

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 07/06/2024 16:52

“Brazilian?”
“No just a coffee please”
I’ll get me coat.

lawnseed · 07/06/2024 17:05

I prefer African blends so I'd have screwed my face up and said "nooooo thank you" 😂

BeaFuddled · 07/06/2024 17:09

It's the barista who has to do that, so when they are busy serving customers there is literally nobody to clear up tables/mop the toilet floors etc.

I'm not blaming the barista- it's the fault of Caffè Nero HQ.

S0livagant · 07/06/2024 17:14

missmollygreen · 07/06/2024 13:59

If you didnt want it then why did you say yes when she asked?

If you ask for a drink in a pub and they ask if you want a double you would expect to pay more for it. It is no different

It is different. Most people would know double of anything would cost more. It's not clear that 'brazilian' costs more.

dcsp · 07/06/2024 17:25

Upselling is fine, not making it clear that the thing you're offering comes at a cost isn't fine.

So "would you like the Brazilian beans for an extra 40p?" - fine

Or "would you like to upgrade to Brazilian beans?" - also fine, because "upgrade" makes it clear it's going to cost more (just like asking "large?" or "double-shot?" should be clear that it's going to cost more)

But just "Brazilian?" isn't OK, as asked like that you could reasonably expect that Brazilian is just the default option.

(edited, because managed to submit before I finished typing)

Pippa246 · 07/06/2024 17:34

@CoffeeQuery - agree - it is a cynical way of selling and puts me off going there.

I understand why a business wants to upsell but it can backfire. As a problem drinker in recovery, I was taken aback at a local restaurant when I ordered a tonic water and was asked “do you want a gin in that?”. I couldn’t help myself saying “no, as I am a recovering alcoholic”. I’ve not been back since.

TeaOrCoffeeOrHotChocolate · 07/06/2024 19:29

Bananalanacake · 07/06/2024 13:48

Isn't a Brazilian a pubic hair style? I would be most confused to be asked that in Caffe Nero,

That's what I was thinking!

Rumplestiltz · 07/06/2024 20:07

I think there is a difference between - would you like a bag of Maltesers half price/a croissant/fries with that (which you understand is an additional cost) and a Caffè Nero style - Brazilian ok? where it is not transparent that you are being sold an extra

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 07/06/2024 21:17

Pippa246 · 07/06/2024 17:34

@CoffeeQuery - agree - it is a cynical way of selling and puts me off going there.

I understand why a business wants to upsell but it can backfire. As a problem drinker in recovery, I was taken aback at a local restaurant when I ordered a tonic water and was asked “do you want a gin in that?”. I couldn’t help myself saying “no, as I am a recovering alcoholic”. I’ve not been back since.

That's absolutely awful! Shock I'm so sorry this happened to you. Flowers How fucking DARE they offer to stick alcohol in your bloody gin! Hmm

CoffeeQuery · 07/06/2024 21:35

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 07/06/2024 21:17

That's absolutely awful! Shock I'm so sorry this happened to you. Flowers How fucking DARE they offer to stick alcohol in your bloody gin! Hmm

Showing that you didn't read the post and have zero understanding of what it means to be a sober alcoholic. She asked for a non alcoholic drink (tonic) in a restaurant - not a bar - and was offered gin in it.

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CoffeeQuery · 07/06/2024 21:36

dcsp · 07/06/2024 17:25

Upselling is fine, not making it clear that the thing you're offering comes at a cost isn't fine.

So "would you like the Brazilian beans for an extra 40p?" - fine

Or "would you like to upgrade to Brazilian beans?" - also fine, because "upgrade" makes it clear it's going to cost more (just like asking "large?" or "double-shot?" should be clear that it's going to cost more)

But just "Brazilian?" isn't OK, as asked like that you could reasonably expect that Brazilian is just the default option.

(edited, because managed to submit before I finished typing)

Edited

This expresses why I felt uncomfortable with it much better than I did!

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pinkzebra02 · 07/06/2024 21:37

Thr last time I agreed to a brazillian I ended up with thrush 😅

YourPithyLilacSheep · 07/06/2024 21:52

There are signs all over Caffè Nero about the extra costs of, well, extras. You can just say No.

cherish123 · 07/06/2024 21:54

Not sure what that is.
Next time just so no to the assistant.

Mokp · 07/06/2024 21:58

B&M, Poundland etc used to ask if we wanted any chocolate by the till. Yes I bought a lot of tins of pulses and other healthy stuff. If I wanted chocolate I grab something from the chocolate section!

We don’t upsell at work but sometimes customers buy two of the things of a meal deal which is about 80p-£1.50 more than buying the three items on the meal deal. Just saving them money. Could buy the snack for later on.

Beachy10 · 07/06/2024 22:03

Yes! The same happened to me and irritated me too. I was asked if I wanted it, I asked what the difference was.....she described the type of flavour but did not say there was an extra cost. I presumed it was a question of would you like this flavour or this flavour. Only once shed made the drink did I spot the sign that said it was an extra 40p. As if coffee isn't expensive enough as it is.

weareallqueens · 07/06/2024 22:05

M&S are bad for this 'do you want the summer blend?' And it's only once you've sat down with your coffee you notice that it cost 50p more.

pictoosh · 07/06/2024 22:05

Yanbu...it's sneaky AF.
Things like this make me feel like I'm being constantly chipped away at.

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