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To think this is a scam

164 replies

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 00:42

Received a text saying

"Hi Kate, just to let you know my new mobile number, speak soon xx"

No sign off. How am I expected to know who it is? Am I bloody psychic? Or is it a scam? I put the number in whocalledme.com but nothing came up.

Has anyone else received a message like this? I've blocked it but screenshotted the text and number for future reference.

OP posts:
TheKingCobraIsNotStrictlySpeakingACobra · 05/06/2024 10:48

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 10:33

They don’t usually use names though. They’ll say “hi mum” or something.

I should have RTFT - didn’t realise it was the OPs real name they’d used.

the ones I’ve seen pretend they're texting somebody, throw in a random name and get into convo after apologising for texting a wrong number.

dancinfeet · 05/06/2024 11:05

got a message from my adult daughter saying that she had been mugged and her phone and bank card were stolen and she was texting from a friends phone- could I transfer her some money into friends bank just until she got a replacement phone and bank card. (for context she lives at the other end of the country in a busy city). I rang the number, turned out it actually was my daughter and someone had swiped her handbag while she was travelling. I did think it was a scam to start with though.

Theredoubtableskins · 05/06/2024 11:08

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 09:23

High drama this morning. The officer in charge of my ongoing crime report has been brilliant and said I did the right thing.

@Theredoubtableskins if you'd been the victim of crime you too would be anxious. The officer called the number and called me back. It's my scatty best friend who forgot to put her name on the text. We all had a laugh about it.

Cue some posts accusing me of wasting police time ...

Jesus. I have been the victim of a crime. A lot worse than my car being broken into. I think you’ll find that many many people have.

Still would have sent a text back asking who it was or just checked in bloody WhatsApp for the profile pic and name. Did you even do that after it was suggested? Or just no, get the police involved.

WetBandits · 05/06/2024 11:19

Theredoubtableskins · 05/06/2024 11:08

Jesus. I have been the victim of a crime. A lot worse than my car being broken into. I think you’ll find that many many people have.

Still would have sent a text back asking who it was or just checked in bloody WhatsApp for the profile pic and name. Did you even do that after it was suggested? Or just no, get the police involved.

I think the first line of the post you quoted was most telling! Checking WhatsApp wouldn’t have been nearly dramatic enough…

Feelsodrained · 05/06/2024 11:21

The police were interested in a theft? Someone broke into my car and stole stuff and the police didn’t even want to know what had been stolen. Maybe it depends on what area you live in as to what resources they have.

Bumblebeeinatree · 05/06/2024 11:32

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 10:32

What? Spoofing your number is NOT the same as hacking your phone to get to your contact list - and if they’ve hacked your phone I think the contact list is low down the list of what data they could steal!!

but I was saying that in response to a load of posters saying “did they use your name” “is Kate your name” when it was very obvious she was using her MN username in place of her real name 🙄

Obviously not, I mentioned that just to point out not every one is sensible or able to understand these things, having the same old biddy ring me back FOUR times because she had got a call from my number which absolutely was a scam and I told her it was a scam and not to reply to unknown numbers, etc, etc, FOUR times, shows how vulnerable some people are. That lady would no doubt have rung back and probably done whatever the person said so it's worth them randomly sending those messages until they find someone vulnerable.

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:22

CerealPonderer · 05/06/2024 00:46

Why not just reply and say 'who's this?'. Then you can contact them by other means to check. I'm not sure why you'd jump to immediately blocking the number.

Because then you’ve engaged whoever the scammer is.

fieldsofbutterflies · 05/06/2024 12:26

Because then you’ve engaged whoever the scammer is.

But what do you think engaging with the scammer is going to do? Confused

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 12:36

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:22

Because then you’ve engaged whoever the scammer is.

And?

The block function works after you've replied

Theredoubtableskins · 05/06/2024 12:38

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:22

Because then you’ve engaged whoever the scammer is.

So? What’s going to happen?

No one can do anything with your phone number and a couple of replies while
you check if it is your friend. What do
you actually think will happen?

They can’t force you to give them anything. If you check and it isn’t your friend then you block and move on. Every one of these phone scammers are looking for easily tricked people. If you push back or ignore then they disappear. Even if they didn’t disappear, what do you think they can do?

The hysteria on mumsnet is utterly out of control. Don’t answer your door, don’t answer an unknown caller, don’t reply to a simple text from a friend which didn’t folllw the scam patterns, don’t give out your bank details to anyone (even though they’d re used to receive a payment and cannot be used to make a payment).

This is not a healthy place for people like the OP who are clearly going through something, have issues or are vulnerable.

SamW98 · 05/06/2024 12:41

Wheelz46 · 05/06/2024 06:25

I work in fraud and would not recommend replying to the message. Although it may be legitimate it could also be a scam and likely is. Most genuine people would let you know who the sender is.

Scammers are chances and could be trying to see if your mobile number is active. Replying will confirm your mobile number is in fact active and then you could and likely will be bombarded with more messages.

Ditto. I work in FCP and AML and definitely advise not to reply to unknown numbers.

Its a naive viewpoint to say ‘well they’ve not asked for money’ - as we know there’s many ways of scamming without asking for cash

DragonGypsyDoris · 05/06/2024 12:44

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 00:42

Received a text saying

"Hi Kate, just to let you know my new mobile number, speak soon xx"

No sign off. How am I expected to know who it is? Am I bloody psychic? Or is it a scam? I put the number in whocalledme.com but nothing came up.

Has anyone else received a message like this? I've blocked it but screenshotted the text and number for future reference.

Probably just forgot to sign off with a name. Rather than run to Mumsnet, why not simply message or call the number to see if you know the sender? That would be the logical and proportionate response.

Theredoubtableskins · 05/06/2024 12:56

SamW98 · 05/06/2024 12:41

Ditto. I work in FCP and AML and definitely advise not to reply to unknown numbers.

Its a naive viewpoint to say ‘well they’ve not asked for money’ - as we know there’s many ways of scamming without asking for cash

And absolutely none of those ways matter if you block/ignore after checking if it’s actually your friend.

How do people actually get through a day without help when they live in an cloud of fear.

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:56

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 07:04

She’s used Kate in her OP because of her username. If they’ve used your name it’s likely someone you know.

I’d love to say it was impossible for scammers to find out your name first, but it really isn’t. It can actually be relatively simple, especially if you’ve ever used a phone number for work.

Think about it - if hackers can get the details of your bank account and address and spoof the helpline number of your bank, finding out someone’s first name shouldn’t be that hard.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 13:00

SamW98 · 05/06/2024 12:41

Ditto. I work in FCP and AML and definitely advise not to reply to unknown numbers.

Its a naive viewpoint to say ‘well they’ve not asked for money’ - as we know there’s many ways of scamming without asking for cash

So in this specific case op messages back and the scammer says they are "name of actual friend" what would be the next step in the scam that she would fall for?

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/06/2024 13:01

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 04:47

How would a scammer know your name and even if it was one nothings going to happen if you reply and ask who it is

Maybe they don’t? Maybe they’ve automatically generated thousands of “dear Kate” texts knowing a small proportion will land up with a “Kate”. Tiny cost of doing this is well repaid by ending up with someone who thinks it’s genuine because “they know my name”

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 13:08

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/06/2024 13:01

Maybe they don’t? Maybe they’ve automatically generated thousands of “dear Kate” texts knowing a small proportion will land up with a “Kate”. Tiny cost of doing this is well repaid by ending up with someone who thinks it’s genuine because “they know my name”

Only if they happen upon a Kate who also then has a friend called Susan when they reply to the who dis message and then falls for a long con where "Susan" eventually asks for money without having had any genuine contact with the real Susan in the meanwhile

That's quite some odds

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 13:09

Bumblebeeinatree · 05/06/2024 11:32

Obviously not, I mentioned that just to point out not every one is sensible or able to understand these things, having the same old biddy ring me back FOUR times because she had got a call from my number which absolutely was a scam and I told her it was a scam and not to reply to unknown numbers, etc, etc, FOUR times, shows how vulnerable some people are. That lady would no doubt have rung back and probably done whatever the person said so it's worth them randomly sending those messages until they find someone vulnerable.

Which has nothing to do with hacking a phone??? It was just irrelevant to the thread (hacking a phone isn’t a scam) and to my comment.

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 13:10

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:56

I’d love to say it was impossible for scammers to find out your name first, but it really isn’t. It can actually be relatively simple, especially if you’ve ever used a phone number for work.

Think about it - if hackers can get the details of your bank account and address and spoof the helpline number of your bank, finding out someone’s first name shouldn’t be that hard.

Didn’t say they couldn’t, but it’s more unlikely they’d do that when they can mass text without a name. And, the main point was people were missing the fairly obvious point she was using her username in place of her real name.

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 13:12

And, the main point was people were missing the fairly obvious point she was using her username in place of her real name.

Well I certainly realised that, but the actual name doesn’t matter. The same principles apply as long as the name was right.

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/06/2024 21:12

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 13:08

Only if they happen upon a Kate who also then has a friend called Susan when they reply to the who dis message and then falls for a long con where "Susan" eventually asks for money without having had any genuine contact with the real Susan in the meanwhile

That's quite some odds

Susan hadn't been introduced by the time of the post that I responded to.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 21:41

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/06/2024 21:12

Susan hadn't been introduced by the time of the post that I responded to.

If "Susan" isn't introduced to the scam it doesn't go anywhere, what would the scammer say when Kate asks who the text is from?
I'm not telling you but send me some money?

Rubbishconfession · 05/06/2024 21:47

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 08:52

And then they can see my WhatsApp profile can't they?

They have your number, they can already see your profile 🤦🏻‍♀️

If you haven’t set your privacy settings.

Rubbishconfession · 05/06/2024 21:49

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 09:23

High drama this morning. The officer in charge of my ongoing crime report has been brilliant and said I did the right thing.

@Theredoubtableskins if you'd been the victim of crime you too would be anxious. The officer called the number and called me back. It's my scatty best friend who forgot to put her name on the text. We all had a laugh about it.

Cue some posts accusing me of wasting police time ...

How is that high drama? It sounds like the most boring police call ever.

And you did waste their time.

SpindleyDindley · 05/06/2024 22:48

It's worrying how many people think this is probably legit because they know your name.

Treat ALL unknown numbers as scams unless you can speak to the person and verify with absolute certainty who they are.

I would be ignoring the text. If genuine they would have signed it off with a name for starters. What prat is going to text you about a new number and not provide their name?

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