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Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

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Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:49

My boyfriend of 3 years is having issues with my DD (14). She is most likely on the autism spectrum and I am going through the route of assesment for her.

She likes schedules, predictability and time alone. She struggles socially to make friends and feels very alone at school. She gets easily overwhelmed with too much noise or stimulation and is very emotional and cries everyday. She doesn’t like to do much and her preferred choice of activity would be sitting around painting or watching tv. She also has some mild learning difficulties, so struggles with her schoolwork. She often doesn’t know the ‘right’ thing to say and her conversations can be strange and odd at times. She people pleased in my opinion which means we often all get different individual versions of events and she often lies in small ways. Overall she is a good kid with a kind heart.

Her dad (who left when she was a baby) is a very wealthy man, but a terrible parent who has little to nothing to do with her other than to criticise her family and especially me and my DBF. He will sees her a few times a year for a meal and calls her now and again to ask what I am up to and put me and her siblings, or even her, down.

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her. To be fair her dad is always telling her what we are providing isn’t enough, the holidays aren’t good enough and we aren’t traveling first class, like he does. She doesn’t have a filter and just shares this with us. Not as her view but as her dads.
I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

DBF has started saying DD is spoiling everyone’s fun as she struggles with sensory overload on car journeys or trips away. She gets teary and upset over the noise (we have two other younger children) and doesn’t want to be touched by her siblings or to be in the car too long. I find ways to manage it with her. We plan out timings so she knows how long we are in the car for, we plan our days on holiday so she knows what activities to expect. She tries her best but can’t help sometimes feeling overwhelmed and then cries.

She doesn’t like to exercise and struggles with her confidence with many things.

He thinks she is spoiling the activities for everyone else as she looks miserable. She’s simply trying to join in and not make a fuss as best she can. She can’t help it if she isn’t enjoying it!

He says she is entitled as she prefers luxury and she’s making a scene because she wants to be on a luxury holiday and not a budget one. I know her and that’s not the case. She just struggles with the sheer amount of activities and lack of relaxation that is on holidays with DBF and the other children. If I were given an option of a relaxing beach trip to the Maldives or a camping site I would choose the Maldives hands down, no questions asked too! I’m not ungrateful!

She acts like a much younger child and he will always focus on the fact that she is 14 and should be behaving in a certain way.

Sometimes he makes a real effort with her and is great. Then others, he has no patience and moody as ever and ignores her.

He says he doesn’t have anything in common with her. Sometimes he doesn’t engage in conversation with her and answers her questions in one word answers. Doesn’t ask how her day was, nothing. And when I confront him about it he say he isn’t being horrible to her or saying anything mean. In my opinion he is basically pretending she doesn’t exist.

So the thing that gets to me the most is we can be having a discussion, say about how nice the weekend was, and he will then interject with something negative like, ‘we’ll your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste.

On holiday last week they were alone for a few minutes at a lovely restaurant I had booked as a treat for DD and they had a conversation when I was in the ladies room. Everything was perfectly fine before this. The rest of the meal was silence and he didn’t talk to me or DD at all other than responding to my questions with grunts or single words, without actually looking at me. He complained about the food and just said he hated it and wanted to leave. He wouldn’t tell me why until later.

Turns out it was because DD had mentioned she really likes eating out at nice restaurants like the one we were in and that’s the best part of her holidays. (She a massive foodie and it’s her passion) he said it felt like she only wanted luxury things and she was, his words, ‘shitting on the rest of the holiday.’

He had no understanding of the fact that she is most likely autistic and that her brain doesn’t work quite like his. He says that it’s no excuse to behave as she does.

He has recently been let go from his job so is struggling with that and other stressful situations, so he is more moody than usual at the moment.

So is my kid a brat or is he? I just need some outside views on the situation. Thank you.

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

OP posts:
spriots · 04/06/2024 13:52

Your DD sounds very difficult to be around.

That's not may not be her fault.

I can understand why your boyfriend wouldn't enjoy being around her.

But at the end of the day it's your role to make sure she isn't forced to be around someone who doesn't like her.

I think you either need to break up or limit your relationship to dates without the children

beergiggles · 04/06/2024 13:53

@Loveisntallyouneed
I'm very relieved to hear that this man does not live with you. I hope you can keep it that way.
He sounds horrible and very immature.

Toastjusttoast · 04/06/2024 13:54

I could never go out with someone who dislikes my children. I hope you break up with him. You have a responsibility to your daughter.

Your bf is expecting her to have perfect manners when it’s more difficult for her because of her conditions, and she’s only 14. Bullying a child, what a pathetic person.

greenpolarbear · 04/06/2024 13:55

Do these problems only ever happen on holidays/trips, or is it all the time?

Bananabreadandstrawberries · 04/06/2024 13:55

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:45

By all means DD is not easy to live with. She’s a teenager!

She doesn’t have luxury needs, her dad is just trying to cause trouble in her/ our lives by telling her that we (specifically DBF) should be taking her on luxury trips. DD doesn’t even really like holidays. If she had her way she would stay at home and paint or cook.

Her dad doesn’t even take her away or do anything nice with her. He’s just making trouble as best he can and seems to be able to push DBF’s buttons very easily.

How much maintenance does her father give her?
Of he is making inflammatory comments like that he ought to be contributing more to his child. Her own parents are responsible for paying for her (not her mum’s boyfriend).

TBH everyone in your life sounds unreasonable - your daughter, her father and your boyfriend.

Your daughter sounds very unpleasant and difficult to live with. Being a teen and having autism does not mean she can behave however she likes and have no filter. I wouldn’t be around her if I didn’t have to.

I think you and your boyfriend should break up - sounds very unpleasant for all involved and you have nothing holding you together.

KreedKafer · 04/06/2024 13:55

I'm speaking here as someone who doesn't even like kids/teens much, and I'm also someone who finds constant tears / moods etc really annoying. But even I, the world's worst curmudgeon feel really sorry for your kid and think your boyfriend is an absolute prick.

He's offended because your daughter loves nice restaurants and eating out is her favourite part of the holiday? He sulks for days if she mentions her father??? What a fucking baby.

I don't even think this is about your daughter's neurodiversity, really. I completely appreciate that her likely ASD is a probably a factor in her lack of filter and her seemingly OTT responses (tears when overwhelmed, etc) but generally, a lot of what irks your boyfriend sounds like the sort of thing that I'd expect from a neurotypical teenager as well. Most teens are moody and prone to drama, and lots of teens are much more keen on lounging around watching telly and drawing/crafting/whatever than they are filling their days with 'activities'.

Teenage traits aside, can this actual grown man seriously not understand that different people like different things and that your daughter can't just force herself to love the sorts of holidays he happens to enjoy the most?

He, in fact, sounds way more hyper-sensitive and drama-queeny than she does. Taking offence at her expressing her enthusiasm for a nice restaurant is absolutely crazy of him. If that's the sort of thing that makes him kick off, there's probably nothing the poor girl can do or say that would meet with his approval.

I would dump him.

PS Somewhat off-topic, but I must say that I think your daughter sounds great, for the most part! If I had to hang out with a teenager, I'd much rather hang out with your daughter, painting and going to nice restaurants, than with a kid who wanted to do group activities at campsites. Smile

quantmum · 04/06/2024 13:56

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:36

DD certainly doesn’t expect luxury. She, like me and many others, enjoys a nice meal out every now and again. She has never made demands or anything remotely like that. She’s happy at any food place to be honest.

DBFs perceived demands by her are, in my opinion, non existent and in his head. She’s never demanded first class travel or Michelin starred restaurants. She tends to like easygoing relaxing holiday and not adventure as it’s exhausting for her.

She has never demanded luxury or sulked at not receiving it. I’m not sure where that has come from?

Counselling is something I have suggested but he doesn’t see the point of it and thinks it’s a waste of money.

OP, I'd concentrate on your DD and let your BF know that. If your DD so enjoys food, does she get the opportunity to cook? Would that be a nice thing for you to do together? It could be something she has a career in in the future so if I was you I'd really help her plan towards that and it might help her if she had a strong focus and could imagine her future.
Your BF sounds absolutely dreadful, and not someone you or your child should be with. She's clearly picking up on his attitude. He sounds miserly, immature and a bit thick. Just let him go, it's not worth it and as you don't have children together at least you don't have to him in your life anymore.

MrsSunshine2b · 04/06/2024 13:56

I have a 14 yo autistic stepdaughter and the idea that her stepdad could be treating her this way and her Mum could be going along with it and putting pressure on her to mask her symptoms or not to talk about her father in her own home makes me feel quite ill.

She must feel as though she's treading on eggshells and has no safe space to be herself. You need to step up as her mother and remove this abusive person from her life. And apologise to her for what you've put her through up to this point.

Notchangingnameagain · 04/06/2024 13:56

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her.

Pathetic.

mamaandbump · 04/06/2024 13:57

Yeah he gotta go ASAP

Piddypigeon · 04/06/2024 13:57

why are you even with him? He is clearly not able to accommodate DD... I think it's very obvious. How can you not see this? Your priority must be your DC!

Whowhatwherewhenwhy1 · 04/06/2024 13:58

Your daughter is the priority. He needs to go asap. Simple as that and do not take any bullshit from him about how he cant go because you would be making him homeless. He can easily pick up a basic minimum wage job and seek UC if he needs to.

Thudercatsrule · 04/06/2024 14:01

Ive been on mumsnet for nearly 20 yrs and have always hated and NEVER used the expression, but LTFB! Children last a lifetime and they need us and want us and love us and they are a priority above all else. I love my DH to death, but my boys come first. Kids come first, above all else.

Codlingmoths · 04/06/2024 14:02

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They seem pretty normal to me! Much more likely her asshole dad is ND. Much much much more likely. Saying I like this restaurant or having a favorite part of a holiday is not weird.

Blondiney · 04/06/2024 14:02

Poor kid.

Meanwhile33 · 04/06/2024 14:04

It’s great that he doesn’t live with you. Then it should be easy to pull back, stop involving him in your time with your kids, and if you don’t want to dump him, just go out on dates in the evenings without any of the kids involved. Although I’d dump him anyway for sulking in a restaurant, quite apart from how horrible he is to your child. But you can totally protect your daughter from him without any massive upheaval.

beergiggles · 04/06/2024 14:04

Notchangingnameagain · 04/06/2024 13:56

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her.

Pathetic.

He's an eejit, a stupid little prick, what are you doing with him??

Notchangingnameagain · 04/06/2024 14:05

I would bet you any money that your DD is well aware of how this man regards her. This will make her feel even more overwhelmed and hypervigilant in his company. Your DD must a nervous wreck along with potentially being ND.

This prick has got to go.

How he has this level of entitlement to an opinion on YOUR child and HER father after 3 years is beyond me.

PostItInABook · 04/06/2024 14:06

There are some total arseholes on this thread, as usual when it involves someone autistic.

beergiggles · 04/06/2024 14:06

Is he worth keeping for sex, just sex, apart from that spend as little time as possible with him.
Is the sex any good @Loveisntallyouneed ?

ColdGirlWinter · 04/06/2024 14:06

pizzaface23 · 04/06/2024 10:59

Your dd has a useless father and a borderline abusive stepfather. I feel sorry for her. You need to prioritise your child, I couldn't be with someone who didn't like my dc and treated them with any kind of contempt. It would be a total dealbreaker.
And yes, blended families are not easy. Dynamics can sometimes be more complicated and there is often conflict between stepparent and stepchild in the teenage years. But if the dynamic as a whole is him simply not liking her, engaging with her and treating her like one of the family then it will be affecting her in a terrible way. You need to protect her from that.

He's a stepnothing, just a boyfriend. The OP should kick him out.

BettyUnderswoob · 04/06/2024 14:10

This made me sad.
I have an autistic teenage daughter and the past few years have been VERY difficult. And that is with me, DH and her sisters who love her unconditionally.
Puberty is a very very difficult time for ND youngsters. Your DD may yet behave a lot worse before she grows up and mellows with maturity. She needs love, support and patience from those around her during this time.
Your BF is an awful, negative presence on her. If he can’t understand, support or be patient with her I’d get rid if I were you.

Doteycat · 04/06/2024 14:10

Oh adios motherfucker.
Seriously. He needs to be gone, he is bringing nothing but grief and making your life so much harder. Your dd is your dd, and whatever issues she may or may not have, he should be making your life easier. And hers.
Hes the adult, he could fuckright off and if you dont get rid, well, thats telling DD a lot isnit regards your priorities.

Justanothercatlady · 04/06/2024 14:12

Why is the BF held to a higher standard than her father?

Notreat · 04/06/2024 14:13

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I can't see his point at all.
There is nothing rude or ungrateful about saying what your favourite part of a holiday is. That was the part she enjoyed most and she said it. Why shouldn't she. If anything you could say she was being grateful for the meal and showing her enjoyment. I also like meals out and would prefer it to lots of activities.
We often say what our favourite part of a holiday or day out is. My GS once said his favourite part of an expensive trip out was coming home. I wasn't offended!