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Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

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Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:49

My boyfriend of 3 years is having issues with my DD (14). She is most likely on the autism spectrum and I am going through the route of assesment for her.

She likes schedules, predictability and time alone. She struggles socially to make friends and feels very alone at school. She gets easily overwhelmed with too much noise or stimulation and is very emotional and cries everyday. She doesn’t like to do much and her preferred choice of activity would be sitting around painting or watching tv. She also has some mild learning difficulties, so struggles with her schoolwork. She often doesn’t know the ‘right’ thing to say and her conversations can be strange and odd at times. She people pleased in my opinion which means we often all get different individual versions of events and she often lies in small ways. Overall she is a good kid with a kind heart.

Her dad (who left when she was a baby) is a very wealthy man, but a terrible parent who has little to nothing to do with her other than to criticise her family and especially me and my DBF. He will sees her a few times a year for a meal and calls her now and again to ask what I am up to and put me and her siblings, or even her, down.

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her. To be fair her dad is always telling her what we are providing isn’t enough, the holidays aren’t good enough and we aren’t traveling first class, like he does. She doesn’t have a filter and just shares this with us. Not as her view but as her dads.
I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

DBF has started saying DD is spoiling everyone’s fun as she struggles with sensory overload on car journeys or trips away. She gets teary and upset over the noise (we have two other younger children) and doesn’t want to be touched by her siblings or to be in the car too long. I find ways to manage it with her. We plan out timings so she knows how long we are in the car for, we plan our days on holiday so she knows what activities to expect. She tries her best but can’t help sometimes feeling overwhelmed and then cries.

She doesn’t like to exercise and struggles with her confidence with many things.

He thinks she is spoiling the activities for everyone else as she looks miserable. She’s simply trying to join in and not make a fuss as best she can. She can’t help it if she isn’t enjoying it!

He says she is entitled as she prefers luxury and she’s making a scene because she wants to be on a luxury holiday and not a budget one. I know her and that’s not the case. She just struggles with the sheer amount of activities and lack of relaxation that is on holidays with DBF and the other children. If I were given an option of a relaxing beach trip to the Maldives or a camping site I would choose the Maldives hands down, no questions asked too! I’m not ungrateful!

She acts like a much younger child and he will always focus on the fact that she is 14 and should be behaving in a certain way.

Sometimes he makes a real effort with her and is great. Then others, he has no patience and moody as ever and ignores her.

He says he doesn’t have anything in common with her. Sometimes he doesn’t engage in conversation with her and answers her questions in one word answers. Doesn’t ask how her day was, nothing. And when I confront him about it he say he isn’t being horrible to her or saying anything mean. In my opinion he is basically pretending she doesn’t exist.

So the thing that gets to me the most is we can be having a discussion, say about how nice the weekend was, and he will then interject with something negative like, ‘we’ll your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste.

On holiday last week they were alone for a few minutes at a lovely restaurant I had booked as a treat for DD and they had a conversation when I was in the ladies room. Everything was perfectly fine before this. The rest of the meal was silence and he didn’t talk to me or DD at all other than responding to my questions with grunts or single words, without actually looking at me. He complained about the food and just said he hated it and wanted to leave. He wouldn’t tell me why until later.

Turns out it was because DD had mentioned she really likes eating out at nice restaurants like the one we were in and that’s the best part of her holidays. (She a massive foodie and it’s her passion) he said it felt like she only wanted luxury things and she was, his words, ‘shitting on the rest of the holiday.’

He had no understanding of the fact that she is most likely autistic and that her brain doesn’t work quite like his. He says that it’s no excuse to behave as she does.

He has recently been let go from his job so is struggling with that and other stressful situations, so he is more moody than usual at the moment.

So is my kid a brat or is he? I just need some outside views on the situation. Thank you.

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

OP posts:
imnotsickbutimnotwell · 04/06/2024 14:31

Haven’t read the whole thread and only had to read a few lines of the OP before I thought you have to get rid of this man. Put your daughter first and dump him.

ARichtGoodDram · 04/06/2024 14:33

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It only sounds like a dig if you’re looking for it.

Why is she not allowed love eating in treat places? Surely the point of booking a treat restaurant is because it’s a special treat.

beergiggles · 04/06/2024 14:35

I think hearing about your ex partner's wealth makes this man feel inferior.
He is unable to consciously acknowledge this sense of inferiority (because it's too threatening to his self image) and so he's projecting it onto your daughter, trying to paint her as bad, inferior etc.

Okisenough · 04/06/2024 14:36

I second all those who have said you need to knock this relationship on the head. Please protect your dd.

easylikeasundaymorn · 04/06/2024 14:37

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 04/06/2024 11:11

Only someone looming for a fight takes 'I love eating at restaurants like these [because food is my passion], it's my favourite part of my holiday' as her 'shitting on the rest of the holiday'. That's insane. I don't think this is salvageable

exactly! On one hand his issues with DD are that he thinks
-she doesn't like doing much
-she's young for her age
-she's ungrateful
-she doesn't know the right thing to say

Yet when she expresses how much she's enjoyed something you've taken her to (i.e. showing gratitude for an age-appropriate activity - how many ten years olds would say that fine dining is their best thing about a holiday?) he finds that unreasonable? Poor kid can't win!

It sounds like a completely normal thing to me - loads of people say that eating out is one of the best parts of a holiday! that's why it's a treat!

Divasaurus · 04/06/2024 14:39

I just saw your post about your two other children not being shared together. Please leave him, for the sake of your poor DD. Why are you prioritising this horrible man over your daughter?

2catsandhappy · 04/06/2024 14:40

@beergiggles has already said what I think.

Your bf is taking his frustration out on your vulnerable dd.
Bin him off.
I have an autistic dd and it was very hard to read your updates.

Smittenkitchen · 04/06/2024 14:43

I first thought that this was an extremely tricky situation as I thought two younger kids were his. As they're not, I think the best move would be to split up. What you say about a change in attitude since he has entered a period of professional and financial instability made me think about what a divorce lawyer who was on Diary of a CEO the other week was saying. He said that a male partner losing their job is an incredibly frequent precursor to marital breakdown, it causes a huge amount of problems. As it is, he is taking this stress and unhappiness out on your DD and that is absolutely not acceptable.

Duckswaddle · 04/06/2024 14:45

No way would I ever put some random man’s opinion of my child above my child’s welfare.
He’s really not worth it, is he.

Friendshipover5 · 04/06/2024 14:46

Personally, I’d have ended the relationship long ago. I know it’s difficult blending families together, my DP isn’t DD’s dad and she definitely had a hard time getting used to him in the first couple of years and could be really nasty to him (we only went out as “friends” and didn’t move in for 4 years), but he still went above and beyond to create a relationship with her.

Your DP is looking for things to create issues with your DD about, and then sulking like he’s the child. She and your other child are the priority here.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/06/2024 14:46

@Loveisntallyouneed

All you need to remember is "Never choose a man over your child(ren)".

You're subjecting your DD to his nastiness for the sake of having a man. It doesn't matter if he's nasty once in a blue moon or every damned day, subjecting your DD to it is wrong. And you shouldn't have to 'manage DD' just because he gets sulky and resentful. A true partner would be by your side (and DD's) helping her to calm herself. Instead he makes comments and pouts. How very attractive, NOT!

He needs to get gone.

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Chocolateorange22 · 04/06/2024 14:47

He is like this now. Imagine what he's going to be like when DD finishes school and is old enough to get a job. We know she will struggle, she is ND and is likely to be autistic. However do you think he's going to leave her alone to find her own way. Or nit pick that she might not be able to do a job in the same way that a NT 16/18 year old might?

Noseybookworm · 04/06/2024 14:48

I couldn't be with someone who treated my child like that. Sorry OP but I would put my daughter first and get rid of him.

ArrrMeHearties · 04/06/2024 14:48

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 13:13

I don’t think it’s rude. Everyone has a favourite part of a holiday surely? The other two thought the beach was the best bit. I didn’t judge them for that or take any offence at all that they didn’t enjoy the other bits as much.

I can't fathom where in the comment DD made about the restaurant being her favourite thing of the holiday is rude. She was simply stating that part was her favourite. My ds is autistic and when we went on holiday his favourite part was the breakfast buffet and the indoor swimming pool as everyone else was in the outdoor one so he had it to himself which he loved

TuesdayWhistler · 04/06/2024 14:48

Duckswaddle · 04/06/2024 14:45

No way would I ever put some random man’s opinion of my child above my child’s welfare.
He’s really not worth it, is he.

Nor me.

Kids first, always.

If someone you're dating sees your kids as an inconvenience, wave them good bye with a gentle kick in the ass.
If a partner has pretended they love your kids, but their actions prove otherwise, I produce them to the kerb with a gentle tickle of a feather duster

I'd rather be single forever than tolerate anyone that even looks sideways at kid.

YesIamahippie81 · 04/06/2024 14:51

As a mother to 3 neuro diverse children (neuro diverse myself as well) I have to say if he isn't willing to learn about her diversity and behave like an adult then it isn't going to work. Each of my children have their own likes, one is absolutely obsessed with physics and will talk incessantly about it. Took them to museum of science and industry he loved one part more than the rest, it doesn't mean he doesn't like other stuff but just that that is his preference. No issue.

My children are all taught explicitly social niceties and cues to help them but at home is where they are fully able to be themselves. She should be able to express her likes without him perceiving slights against him. I know nd people can be hard work *who isn't at times! But to me he sounds much harder.
He'd be out of the door as my kids come first

Rosebel · 04/06/2024 14:51

Your poor DD can't win, can she? If she is miserable and struggling that's wrong (according to your BF). If she tells him she's enjoying something then that's also wrong.
Get rid of him, he sounds like more of a teenager than he is
Struggling to see why you refer to him as DBF. It should be ex BF.

Newgirls · 04/06/2024 14:52

Thank god you don’t live together or have a child together. See him less or end it. Luckily you have choices and money.

ItsNotInMyMind · 04/06/2024 14:53

I mean, he’s got to go obviously. That’s a non starter.

But are you saying your DD has cried EVERY DAY needing comfort for 14 years? How have you not sought help before? That’s got to be having a massive impact on the whole family.

Bigcat25 · 04/06/2024 14:53

Dump. Your bf criticizes her for being childish, while acting moody and childish himself. I feel bad for her with these two ridiculous men in her life as father figures while she's trying very hard. Dad has abandoned his kids while acting like Mr perfect. Shitty situation.

Nicole1111 · 04/06/2024 14:54

Your boyfriend has a chip on his shoulder about his income, or lack of it, and as a result he’s super sensitive to what he believes is any suggestion of financial inadequacy
on his part, and he is comparing himself to your ex, when no one else is. Like you said he either needs to recognise all this and make an attempt to address it, or he needs to get in the bin.

Thereisalwaysanothertime · 04/06/2024 14:55

You love your daughter unconditionally. And want the very best for her and so find it easier to accommodate her needs. Your DP just doesn’t feel the same and it’s becoming more and more challenging for him. He expects too much of her. Neurodiverse children bring additional challenges to family life. And it can be stressful.
i doubt he will change. Your responsibilities are just not compatible to each other.

User364837 · 04/06/2024 14:55

TLDR but I don’t need to - always prioritise your child. Would her life be better without him in it? Yes.

ARichtGoodDram · 04/06/2024 14:57

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