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Paying for seat reservations on flights

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MidnightPatrol · 03/06/2024 11:19

I have just booked a flight and as increasingly seems to be the case, they want me to pay to reserve a seat.

I have a young child so I can’t ’risk it’ on the day, and the trip will be more enjoyable (by which I mean less of a nightmare) if we are seated together in one row (me, DH, DC).

The cost of this? 66 euros.

I just want to ensure I am seated with the other passengers in my booking, specifically my toddler. Feels grating to incur an additional expense for this ‘privilege’.

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OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/06/2024 20:42

User214263 · 03/06/2024 20:28

I remember the old days of the scrum for the seats and being stood in a queue at the gate for an eternity so you could get a seat close by each other.

We once got stuck with me behind 4yo DD and DH half way down the plane because we missed the seat allocation on our booking. Completely our fault but thankfully the man next to DD offered to swap with me, probably because DD was crying her eyes out as she tends to be overly dramatic. TBF, I didn't want to listen to her either so I don't blame him for swapping. 😆We always pay to sit as a three but if I'm travelling solo or with friends I don't bother and prefer to save the money.

We used to do 2 bookings. DS1 and I got priority boarding and went on first to get seats for us all. Dh, dd and ds2 would come on with the non-priority crowd. I always felt good getting one over on Michael O'Leary.

I must admit, I hated that approach. It was very stressful. Very Hunger Games. They didn't even let people with kids on first. Much easier to pay to select seats together.

NonPlayerCharacter · 03/06/2024 20:43

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 20:37

Except you then you wouldn't know the base 'how low can you go price'!

You could if you took all the extras off!

But I get that it wouldn't draw people in at the start, although it would make reservation fees more palatable. I feel there's a market for a no bullshit airline that gives you the real price with hold luggage and seat selection and lets you take them off, though.

Wexone · 03/06/2024 20:44

like is 2024 paying for seats has been around for ages it's not a new thing 🤷‍♀️ when you go onto ticketmaster and buy concert tickets the cheaper ones are at the back or standing. in our cinema they have plush seats they cost extra if you want them. if you want specific things you pay for it. flying has become too cheap in certain cases. but people have become used to cheap flights ( same also with food and clothes ) 🙄 airlines clearly state their costs too you so yoi can see how much it is and decline if you want to pay. but don't moan about the consequences. I as other people have siad include cost of luggage and seats when I look at flights. I like to enjoy my holiday and want comfort so will pay for it to ensure that.

reesewithoutaspoon · 03/06/2024 20:48

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/06/2024 20:42

We used to do 2 bookings. DS1 and I got priority boarding and went on first to get seats for us all. Dh, dd and ds2 would come on with the non-priority crowd. I always felt good getting one over on Michael O'Leary.

I must admit, I hated that approach. It was very stressful. Very Hunger Games. They didn't even let people with kids on first. Much easier to pay to select seats together.

At one time with ryanair, if you didn't choose to pay you couldn't check in until 24 hours before at which point you could actually pick a seat from what was left.
So we would pay for a middle seat for one person and then wait until the minute check-in opened and pick a free seat next to the paid one, to save one lot of fees. Ryanair got wise to that so now it's autoallocation if you don't pay.
I go random and most times I get an aisle seat , which I prefer anyway.

lateatwork · 03/06/2024 20:57

MidnightPatrol · 03/06/2024 11:44

How does it keep the price down for people who don’t mind where they sit?

Where is the additional cost to the airline of allocating seats at booking vs allocating at check in?

But charging those that do mind and don't want to take a risk to be allocated just any seat ....those people paying more are subsiding those who choose not to. But this would only be to a point. The airline would be doing calculations to work out their pricing strategy- there are many variables to consider. And working out what those people are willing to pay for the privilege selecting their seat would be one.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:24

Jessieshome · 03/06/2024 14:38

I flew with EasyJet last year and paid for a specific seat as I wanted an aisle seat and the ease of knowing I knew where i was sitting. A family of 2 parents and I think 3 pretty young children (sort of 18mnts 2 and 3 year olds, had managed to get seats on the emergency exit aisle. The air hostess said if you booked children's seats you shouldn't have been able to book the emergency exit row as they can't have children in that row or certainly not by the door. I think the air hostess saw me as a lone female traveller sitting close to it all as an easy target and asked me to sit in the window seat by the emergency exit so the family could use my seat to still be close together. I really didn't want that seat as I'd still be amongst the family, who were lovely but who wants to be in between a stressed out family with young kids on a flight?! I expressed my reluctance and pointed out other options and that I had specifically paid for this specific seat. They did manage to rejig things so I could still have an aisle seat further up the plane and the family could use my original seat. Can't quite remember the exact logistics, but my point is, they will almost certainly move other passengers even if they have paid, to ensure a very young child isn't separated from a parent. So, you could not pay and risk annoying several other people in an enclosed space who have paid for their seat, or get a peaceful flight while some other poor person looks after your child?!

I mean this comment light heartedly, I'm not having a go :)

It would have been illegal for the airline to have the children sat in the emergency exit row and the plane could not have taken off. Different to whether a family can sit together

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:28

RobertaFirmino · 03/06/2024 14:52

That's life unfortunately. Pay up or take the risk. I always pay extra for specific seats, I need to be helped out of my seat and am not about to ask a random person to give me an assist. With that in mind, there's not a cat in hells chance we will move for you. If the disabled have to pay then there's no reason why the able bodied shouldn't.

The disabled don't have to pay.

I recently flew EasyJet, with Airport Assistance. They allocated me appropriate seats at no additional cost to myself by reference to my mobility needs. They couldn't have been more accommodating

Eidted to apologise for insensitivity of that post. Different disabilities have different requirements. I just wanted to give a shout out to easyJet

Needanewname42 · 03/06/2024 21:29

SpidersAreShitheads · 03/06/2024 17:52

What I'm struggling with is WHY it's more expensive to have a specific seat.

People keep pointing to the cheaper ticket prices now as the reason why it's worth not having reserved seating.

But I don't see why that makes it cheaper.

When I book theatre tickets, there's an online seating plan. I'm automatically allocated seating but I can change it if I want. It's all done online and with no manual work required. Why can't airlines just use this kind of system? There's no added cost.

I don't think reserving your seat has any bearing on why ticket prices can be offered for a lower price. Less baggage I understand because weight = more fuel used. But I haven't seen anything at all which explains WHY it's more expensive to book a seat. There's no logical reason why it should save money.

I think the fact is that everyone has just gotten used to being asked to pay for the privilege. And I do think it's a case of swallowing the bullshit marketing because we don't look past it any more - we know that to get a convenient seat, we have to pay. So we do. And everyone just repeats what they're told about the reasons why it's cheaper without any real thought about the fact it doesn't actually make much sense.

There are lots of reasons why air travel is cheaper today. Planes are more efficient with better engines, they use less fuel, can fly further without stopping. Technological advances. There's more competition which pushes down prices, and of course, there's higher demand = economies of scale. And there have been legal changes too, with Civil Aviation Authority rules changing to allow more airlines to fly in and out of certain airports.

I don't think for a second that the reason why air travel is so cheap today is anything to do with the non-allocation of seats.

Planes need to be balanced.
Not so much an issue if a plane is full but if its got empty seats or lots of kids you can't have them all in the same area or the same side.

So it's probably easier for the airline to place people than it is for people all to pick the front of the plane.
A plane cannot take off if all the weight is at the front.

So if you really want to pick your seat you need to pay for the privilege of making someone else's job harder placing other people to balance the plane.
Does that make sense?

Needanewname42 · 03/06/2024 21:32

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:24

It would have been illegal for the airline to have the children sat in the emergency exit row and the plane could not have taken off. Different to whether a family can sit together

Edited

It's also illegal to separate under 12s from parents.

So that family getting those seats is a failure on the airline.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:36

peebles32 · 03/06/2024 15:42

I don't bother. I always check on online early and they always seat the five of us together. Just check in online as soon as you can.

not with the ultra low cost airlines - eg RyanAir, WizzAir. You are auto allocated seats, none of this seat selection nonsense!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:37

Needanewname42 · 03/06/2024 21:32

It's also illegal to separate under 12s from parents.

So that family getting those seats is a failure on the airline.

No, it's not. The CAA rules in this regard are advisory only

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:41

Dryplate · 03/06/2024 17:12

I'm loving all the indignation at the idea that airlines are out to make money. That is their single reason for existing.

Well, quite!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:55

Fizbosshoes · 03/06/2024 18:37

I just booked a hotel + flight as a package, it includes a tiny take on bag.if I want to pay for extra hand luggage (not even hold luggage) it's another £80 per person. But....I could probably buy a carrier bag of stuff in duty free and take on without paying extra! ....in the same way they confiscate tweezers and scissors but you can buy them in boots at duty free!!

Sorry to be pedantic - but you're now permitted to take nail scissors (and tweezers) through Security in your hand luggage (no need to purchase at Boots after Security)

Fizbosshoes · 03/06/2024 21:56

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:55

Sorry to be pedantic - but you're now permitted to take nail scissors (and tweezers) through Security in your hand luggage (no need to purchase at Boots after Security)

Yes I have already been corrected but I'm sure that used to be the case

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 22:02

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/06/2024 20:36

And asked 3 times are you sure you don't want to pay to choose your seat😀

I just checked in today for a flight tomorrow. Ds got a aisle seat and I got a middle seat, 5 rows apart.

"And asked 3 times are you sure you don't want to pay to choose your seat😀"

Ha ha - yes

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/06/2024 22:02

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:55

Sorry to be pedantic - but you're now permitted to take nail scissors (and tweezers) through Security in your hand luggage (no need to purchase at Boots after Security)

But yet my 500ml bottle of water is way too dangerous to be allowed through security. Do they think I'm going to try and drown someone with it?

somewhereovertherain · 03/06/2024 22:05

MidnightPatrol · 03/06/2024 11:19

I have just booked a flight and as increasingly seems to be the case, they want me to pay to reserve a seat.

I have a young child so I can’t ’risk it’ on the day, and the trip will be more enjoyable (by which I mean less of a nightmare) if we are seated together in one row (me, DH, DC).

The cost of this? 66 euros.

I just want to ensure I am seated with the other passengers in my booking, specifically my toddler. Feels grating to incur an additional expense for this ‘privilege’.

We’re more than happy not paying for a seat. I love the fact you can pick and choose what you book and don’t book. Never pay for priority and avoid bags as well.

most airlines would sit you with the toddler.

AgileMentor · 03/06/2024 22:07

Never pre booked seats even when I’ve flown with my kids and we’ve always all been sat together when I do pick the free ones.

MixedCouple2 · 03/06/2024 22:09

I agree. It is a joke to get more money from you.
We never pay and alwaya show up early for check in and request we are seated together. Only once we were not so after take off we asked to be swapped.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/06/2024 22:12

MixedCouple2 · 03/06/2024 22:09

I agree. It is a joke to get more money from you.
We never pay and alwaya show up early for check in and request we are seated together. Only once we were not so after take off we asked to be swapped.

What airlines are you using where you still check in at the airport (at least I assume that's what you mean)? I thought they all did online checking these days.

WiddlinDiddlin · 03/06/2024 22:13

You need to think of it the other way round.

Seats are X.
They are X - £discount if you don't care where you sit.

But doing it that way would mean they have a higher 'from £x' price, which they don't want to do of course.

Keep in mind when airlines say they will seat parents with children, their definition of 'with' may be across the aisle or in the row behind or in front of you.

notimagain · 03/06/2024 22:25

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/06/2024 22:12

What airlines are you using where you still check in at the airport (at least I assume that's what you mean)? I thought they all did online checking these days.

I think a lot still offer physical check-in if you want it.

At our local non-UK airport you can certainly check-in at a desk with several major airlines such as BA and Air France.

Easyjet/Ryanair have bag drops, not sure what they do about Check-in.

StarlightLady · 03/06/2024 22:26

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/06/2024 22:02

But yet my 500ml bottle of water is way too dangerous to be allowed through security. Do they think I'm going to try and drown someone with it?

Honestly! The liquids limit was introduced after the biggest disaster in aviation history was narrowly averted. It would have made the awful Twin Towers disaster look like a Teddy Bears picnic in comparison.

Pin0cchio · 03/06/2024 22:28

We've never paid the seat reservation fee and have always been seated together as a family of four with 2 DC (age 4 & 7).

Winter41 · 03/06/2024 22:31

I have never paid to reserve seats and we have never been separated from our children. Sometimes we have two pairs of seats, or a three and one somewhere else but it's never been a problem.

I don't think they would sit a young child.on their own, and I would imagine the strangers that got stuck with them would have something to say about it as well.

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