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To think I can leave my bins here?

131 replies

TVD2103 · 31/05/2024 10:29

I’ve got a new next door neighbour (it’s a housing association property). I normally leave my bins in the front garden, there’s no rules around this and it’s easier for my bin-men to access as they collect and bring them back for me as I struggle due to mobility issues.

I normally leave them next to the pathway/hand rail for next door but in my front garden, this wasn’t an issue for the previous next door neighbour as they was very elderly and barely left the house and they said it was fine etc. Now I completely understand the new people might not want it right next to their pathway so that’s fine, but they don’t seem to want it in my front garden whatsoever.

AIBU for thinking that it’s my front garden and I can leave it within my front garden wherever I want and it’s none of their business? The housing association have no issue or rules with the bins being left there, most people here do it as most are elderly and would struggle to move them anywhere else, the next door neighbour simply wants them moved elsewhere because they want to sit out in THEIR front garden all day, so I don’t understand why my bins being in MY front garden would affect them??

OP posts:
LiterallyOnFire · 04/06/2024 01:48

ComtesseDeSpair · 31/05/2024 10:50

Ultimately you can do what you want with your own front garden, but equally, if you quite literally air your trash for the street to view constantly, the street will have an opinion on it. Our next door neighbours leave their bins and refuse in the front garden rather than the side return and honestly I think it looks slovenly and assume them to be messy people with no sense of pride in themselves or their home - and as other neighbours also comment on it, I know I’m not alone.

Edited

She specified in the OP she has an assisted collection because of her mobility impairment and you read it and still say THAT?

@MNHQ this is a perfect example of the casual ableism so prevalent across the boards.

LiterallyOnFire · 04/06/2024 01:55

Azandme · 03/06/2024 21:06

I always think people sitting in front gardens is stranger than seeing a bin.

Yes!

K0OLA1D · 04/06/2024 02:39

Most people keep their bins on the front here. There is literally a little space which is perfect for the bins to be left.
You've moved them from his walkway, so I'd just ignore him from now on

TomatoSoz · 04/06/2024 03:21

LiterallyOnFire · 04/06/2024 01:48

She specified in the OP she has an assisted collection because of her mobility impairment and you read it and still say THAT?

@MNHQ this is a perfect example of the casual ableism so prevalent across the boards.

I think the reply to my comment was someone implying (thinly veiled) that I was being ableist as well. I'm a wheelchair user and have assisted collections. I have done for the last 10 years. It doesn't mean I couldn't be neighbourly and not have my bins next to my neighbour's property entrance. The people doing assisted collections collections the bins from where you tell them, even if it's at the back of the property. They have to get them from where they're normally kept. It's not casual ableism, in my opinion, to suggest that they move or clean the bins. If it was "I can only get to my bins if they are kept in this specific place" then fair enough. I'm lucky that my husband takes the rubbish out as where I live now the bins are down steps. As a good neighbour , a disabled person is allowed to have some flags moved from - say - where the bins are now to a gravelled area where they could be stored instead (that's what we did previously). Or a disabled person can call and have their bins cleaned. Without knowing every detail we dont know that there things aren't possible. From the neighbour's point of view I can totally understand not wanting stinky bins next to my garden path, whether they were owned by a disabled person or not. We are capable of compromises just as much as an abled person. To me, the compromise and neighbourly thing is having them cleaned regularly.

endofthelinefinally · 04/06/2024 05:27

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 04/06/2024 01:06

Wait. The council fines you if your bins are on the pavement after the refuse collectors have emptied them? If you aren't exaggerating then I'm gobsmacked. I can't believe that people in your council don't kick off about that. It is absolutely ridiculous. I think there would be full blown riots in Yorkshire, and on my street, we generally collect our bins and hide them up the side of our drives. There is no time limit on having them on the pavement though. Wtaf? 😮

Edit to say that there might be time limits, but I've never heard that enforced.

Edited

It is a new thing and there is a big fuss being made about it, our next door app is full of it atm. I don't know anyone near me who has been fined, but we all put each other's bins back in my street. We have a street whatsapp group...
To be fair, the street does look very tidy.

SophieJo · 04/06/2024 06:00

ComtesseDeSpair · 31/05/2024 10:50

Ultimately you can do what you want with your own front garden, but equally, if you quite literally air your trash for the street to view constantly, the street will have an opinion on it. Our next door neighbours leave their bins and refuse in the front garden rather than the side return and honestly I think it looks slovenly and assume them to be messy people with no sense of pride in themselves or their home - and as other neighbours also comment on it, I know I’m not alone.

Edited

What about the smell as well?

H12345 · 04/06/2024 06:34

I think this is a very fair request and would move them instantly as they aren’t pretty and stink in the summer. Lots of my neighbours have bins at the front but nobody has ever put them near the shared pathway, always places as far away from neighbours as possible.

neighbours can be great connections would be a shame to fall out over something so pathetic.

Be kind, move them and don’t even give it another thought!

Dsasd · 04/06/2024 07:10

I swear that 98% of posters ignored that the poster has mobility issues 🙄

Op you have met them half way by moving them from the shared path . Leave it at that . Ignore their moaning. You should not have to struggling because they can't cope with seeing a bin.

Sn1859 · 04/06/2024 07:57

My bins are out the front, by my back gate. I share a path with my neighbours but we have our own back gate. She pointed out that they were out there, I pointed out that I’ve actually lived here longer and they won’t be moving because that’s where I want them. Don’t let people bully you into doing something you don’t want to do.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 04/06/2024 08:03

If you have mobility issues you can apply to the council for an "Assisted Bin Collection" where the refuse collectors come into your garden/Alley to collect the bin. We arranged this fir my MIL as she is in her 90s and can't manage the bins. She keeps her bins in the back garden, she just has to remember to unlock the garden gate on bin day.

That way you can keep the bins out of sight.

Ohnobackagain · 04/06/2024 08:03

@TVD2103 to answer your question it’s absolutely nothing to do with them. I wonder do the bins smell? Where we are there are separate bins for any food waste and any recyclables separate too so our black bin doesn’t smell at all (the others are smaller and are kept elsewhere). But with mixed waste the black bins can pong a bit sometimes if they’ve been full a while and I definitely wouldn’t want to sit down wind of them then.

Seymour5 · 04/06/2024 08:10

Azandme · 03/06/2024 21:06

I always think people sitting in front gardens is stranger than seeing a bin.

I agree, strange choice unless there is no other space. Most people like the privacy of a back garden.

Toastandbutterand · 04/06/2024 08:18

OP, I too live in a housing association property.

One of the other neighbours complained about our disabled neighbours bins being in their front garden. They said almost exactly the same as your new neighbours.

From April this year we now ALL HAVE to keep the bins in the front gardens. It's written in our tenancy contracts.

So I wouldn't worry, and I'd ignore them.

BusyMummy001 · 04/06/2024 08:38

Could you suggest that if you agree to store them elsewhere, would they be willing to come and take them out every week? It’s shouldn’t be an issue to ask. We do this for people in our road - several are elderly, but it’s more about not wanting them to have falls when pulling full/heavy bins down slopes when its slippery/icy/wet for all of us neighbours who help.

If they aren’t willing to help, then continue to store them in your front garden. You can get bin storage units/shed things that look a little nicer, but I’d image they are a bit of a pain if you have mobility issues.

Beautiful3 · 04/06/2024 08:41

My father had to move his bins to his front garden due to a disability. It's so much easier now. You can leave your bins, anywhere on your property. Tell them, they're on my property and the binmen take it from there because I'm disabled. Ignore any more comments.

WhenTheMoonShines · 04/06/2024 08:49

Urgh, they’re the kind of people that sit out in their front garden. Don’t worry OP, they’re clearly those kinds of people. Keep your bins where they are.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 04/06/2024 09:23

Stormyweathr · 03/06/2024 22:31

I don’t like bins in a front garden and wouldn’t be happy either, I do think that even if they are ‘tidy bins’ they should be hidden away, they are ugly and in the summer they do smell, mine are in my back garden tucked away in a corner where nobody can see or smell them

if they like to sit in their front garden maybe it’s flies and the smell that is bothering them

bins in a front garden just remind me of a episode of shameless

What if you don’t have back/ side access. Should I be dragging my wheelie bins through my house every week to get them collected?

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 04/06/2024 09:24

EmmaGrundyForPM · 04/06/2024 08:03

If you have mobility issues you can apply to the council for an "Assisted Bin Collection" where the refuse collectors come into your garden/Alley to collect the bin. We arranged this fir my MIL as she is in her 90s and can't manage the bins. She keeps her bins in the back garden, she just has to remember to unlock the garden gate on bin day.

That way you can keep the bins out of sight.

Edited

But would they not still ask her to store them in the front where the bin collectors can grab them easily?

applestrudels · 04/06/2024 09:38

In my street, all the bins are out the front permanently, because there is no direct access between the front and back gardens so it would be next to impossible to keep them out the back and then take them to the front on bin day.

We all survive. It doesn't look "slovenly" as one PP suggested. It's absolutely fine.

CleftChin · 04/06/2024 09:47

I leave my bins at the end of my drive too, because it's a lot easier taking a bag of recycling/rubbish out than keeping it round the back and dragging a full bin uphill over gravel once a week.

I don't see the issue. We all have bins, they're functional. May as well complain about gutters and down-pipes. I couldn't care less if I can see my neighbours bins, I don't think it makes a place look untidy, and it's significantly more functional to keep the bin by where it needs to be emptied.

YANBU OP.

Change2banon · 04/06/2024 09:48

Have you moved them away from the pathway/hand rail for next door? That would be common courtesy. You can then move them to anywhere in your front garden.

ViciousCurrentBun · 04/06/2024 09:53

He wants to sit in his front garden, he is a nosey one isn’t he.

Isitchill · 04/06/2024 09:57

As long as it's on your land it's fine.

My entire grotty neighbourhood leaves their bins on the public paths 24/7. I can't stand them and it looks awful. No one will deal with them (council or refuse team) as they're too scared to deal with the hassle. One day I will have a meltdown and start lobbing them into their front gardens.

Summertimer · 04/06/2024 10:02

This sounds fine to me. It’s also good your bin men collect and put back from there.

Here at the cottage it’s blue and green collection day. There is a massive line of bins by boundary fence. It’s only a line because I tidied them up yesterday evening. I do get so fed up with having to do this. The lane is not wide enough for disabled or prams to get past next to the telegraph pole but this doesn’t stop those round the corner from lining their bins up without thought and higeldy pigeldy.

Nicolaluu · 04/06/2024 10:09

If he wants them in your back garden he can take them out and bring them back in for you, otherwise put them where you need them to be.

i once had neighbours ask us to move ours from the border but that was because of the smell (right next to where they sat in the garden) so we did as it was reasonable and we had another place they could go just as easily. Plenty of people keep them in front gardens it’s not scruffy. If we were to keep them in the back we’d have to walk around several houses and up a snicket which I’m not doing