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To cancel my TV licence

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trampoline123 · 29/05/2024 08:18

I want to cancel my TV licence because I'm fed up of the way they broadcast the news. The language they use and the way they report is biased and quite frankly sickening. I don't want to fund it in any way shape or form.

AIBU to cancel my tv license for this reason?

OP posts:
x2boys · 29/05/2024 12:20

Zimunya · 29/05/2024 12:16

Already answered upthread why I let him in. I remain happy with that decision as it generated the desired outcome., and I would do it again in the same circumstances.

Not sure if the stealing and BBC comments were for me or just in general, but for the avoidance of doubt, I haven't accused anyone of stealing, and don't have any strong feelings about the BBC, either for or against.

Edited

No the stealing part was in general .

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 29/05/2024 12:25

Nesbi · 29/05/2024 12:11

For that to have even a chance of working they would have to move entirely away from public service programming, and would instead be just another media company, focussed entirely on producing the content that generates the highest revenue, and dropping all the other things.

I often think about lockdown and the experience of schools closing and being stuck at home with the kids. It was the BBC that stepped up putting content out there to help keep kids entertained but also give them educational content to try to offset some of the impact of the schooling they were missing.

It was a great demonstration of how a public service broadcaster has a vested interest in the welfare of the people in the country it serves. Compare that to Netflix who couldn’t give a flying fuck that kids over in the UK were missing school, as long as you paid them your subscription fee they could just sit in front of mindless cartoons all day for all they cared!

I don't necessarily agree with this, because at the moment, they are a PSB, and also have a revenue-generating off-shoot that is very much preoccupied with producing stuff they can punt to the rest of the world.

I see no reason why that can't continue, only the PSB part can be funded by people who actually want to consume it, i.e. subscribers, while the rest of us who have zero interest in it are not presumptively hounded as if we are legally obliged to fund it by default, whether we consume it or not.

I don't pay for your gas or electricity, no matter how much you depend on it, enjoy it, or appreciate it. I see no reason at all why I should subsidise yours, or anyone else's TV consumption.

myusernamewastakenbyme · 29/05/2024 12:40

I cancelled mine a couple of years ago...i have a tv but rarely watch it...my son uses it for his xbox or we watch Netflix...I get a letter once a year if that, asking if my circumstances have changed...never had a knock at the door.
Is it right that i cant watch say a live football match on itv though? As i hadnt realised that.

WickedSerious · 29/05/2024 12:41

We cancelled ours in 2020,waste of money.

ilovesooty · 29/05/2024 12:44

trampoline123 · 29/05/2024 09:25

We do watch live TV sometimes so I beat keep paying my fee. My BF is a stickler for the rules so as much as it pains me I don't want to make him anxious. He'll be curtain twitching looking for enforcers and it will pain me more!

If you plan to continue to watch live TV you should pay for the licence. People who don't are just expecting to leech off the people who do pay. Just don't watch the channels you don't like.

daffodilandtulip · 29/05/2024 13:04

PinedApple · 29/05/2024 08:53

@Blueglazzier yes they can do if you watch live tv and don't pay your licence. Apparently there are vans that drive around detecting tv signals from addresses that don't pay. Whether that's true or not I'm not sure. www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/detection-and-penalties-top5

I thought this was just an 80s scaremongering story that's stuck 🤣

Longma · 29/05/2024 13:17

Is it right that i cant watch say a live football match on itv though? As i hadnt realised that.

The TV license doesn't just cover BBC.
It covers all programming that is shown live or 'as live.'
You can watch it on catch up, but not as it happens.

There are sometimes exemptions to this. For example, there was an exemption for the queen's funeral - people were allowed to watch that love, as it happened, even if they didn't have a TV license.

BobnLen · 29/05/2024 13:17

myusernamewastakenbyme · 29/05/2024 12:40

I cancelled mine a couple of years ago...i have a tv but rarely watch it...my son uses it for his xbox or we watch Netflix...I get a letter once a year if that, asking if my circumstances have changed...never had a knock at the door.
Is it right that i cant watch say a live football match on itv though? As i hadnt realised that.

You can't watch any live sport on itv or prime or anywhere

titbumwillypoo · 29/05/2024 13:21

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 29/05/2024 12:25

I don't necessarily agree with this, because at the moment, they are a PSB, and also have a revenue-generating off-shoot that is very much preoccupied with producing stuff they can punt to the rest of the world.

I see no reason why that can't continue, only the PSB part can be funded by people who actually want to consume it, i.e. subscribers, while the rest of us who have zero interest in it are not presumptively hounded as if we are legally obliged to fund it by default, whether we consume it or not.

I don't pay for your gas or electricity, no matter how much you depend on it, enjoy it, or appreciate it. I see no reason at all why I should subsidise yours, or anyone else's TV consumption.

I don't use the London Underground so by your logic that public service should privatised and paid for by the people that use it? Of course not, because I'm not so insular to understand that a: London having subsidised transport indirectly benefits the rest of the country, b: I can't name one service that's improved through privatisation.
The funding model does need tweaking and personally I favour a block grant of about £3 billion a year from taxpayers so that it can keep doing what it does well without the need for advertising.

Bingbangboom1 · 29/05/2024 13:42

Lifestooshort71 · 29/05/2024 09:22

Do you drive with no licence as well or just watch TV without one?

Driving without a licence is endangering other people, sitting in front of the box without one is not.

kirbykirby · 29/05/2024 13:43

titbumwillypoo · 29/05/2024 13:21

I don't use the London Underground so by your logic that public service should privatised and paid for by the people that use it? Of course not, because I'm not so insular to understand that a: London having subsidised transport indirectly benefits the rest of the country, b: I can't name one service that's improved through privatisation.
The funding model does need tweaking and personally I favour a block grant of about £3 billion a year from taxpayers so that it can keep doing what it does well without the need for advertising.

No way. People already pay enough tax and the BBC isn't an essential service. Just make it subscription only and increase the licence fee so that those like you who want to watch it can pay, rather than getting vulnerable women who probably don't even watch it to subsidise your preferences.

Train fares are the largest source of income for London Transport, followed by the Congestion Charge, ULEZ, Business rates and grants. It's not paid for by general taxation. People can choose not to travel by train and they don't pay.

Bingbangboom1 · 29/05/2024 13:43

I haven't had one for 8 years. I refuse to fund the BBC.

Lairymary · 29/05/2024 13:49

ByPeachSeal · 29/05/2024 08:42

So cancel it. Do you think they’ll care? 😂

Well yes, they will. They will harass OP with letters until they eventually turn up on her doorstep to check that she hasn't got a tv. Happened to me when i moved in with my other half who already had a license and then again when we cancelled because we were moving out of our house, we then had letters to say they were coming to check as there wasn't a license registered to that property. We warned our tenant, but she claims she doesn't have one. Responding to them that you have no requirement for one anymore is like talking to a brick wall (in my experience).

Ace56 · 29/05/2024 13:50

Lifestooshort71 · 29/05/2024 09:22

Do you drive with no licence as well or just watch TV without one?

Ridiculous comparison. 🤦‍♀️

MikeRafone · 29/05/2024 13:59

This hasn't been so since 2013, obviously some stores might be ignoring this

my work place purchased a tv in around 2016/17 and gave the address - then started receiving nasty letters. the tv wasn't being used for tv programs anyway

so the shops are clearly passing on details

wendycupcakes · 29/05/2024 14:00

I don't have a TV licence.

x2boys · 29/05/2024 14:02

Lairymary · 29/05/2024 13:49

Well yes, they will. They will harass OP with letters until they eventually turn up on her doorstep to check that she hasn't got a tv. Happened to me when i moved in with my other half who already had a license and then again when we cancelled because we were moving out of our house, we then had letters to say they were coming to check as there wasn't a license registered to that property. We warned our tenant, but she claims she doesn't have one. Responding to them that you have no requirement for one anymore is like talking to a brick wall (in my experience).

Yes but you can just ignore their letters ,they send them.on a loop, it's statts of gently reminding you that you don't have e a TV licence ,and they become increasingly more threatening ,saying they may send someone round to check ,( rarely happens) but if they do just ignore then and the loop starts again.

Lifestooshort71 · 29/05/2024 14:10

Bingbangboom1 · 29/05/2024 13:42

Driving without a licence is endangering other people, sitting in front of the box without one is not.

Both are criminal offences (Communications Act of 2003) so yes, the bar is set pretty low.

QualityDog · 29/05/2024 14:13

Well yes, they will. They will harass OP with letters until they eventually turn up on her doorstep to check that she hasn't got a tv. Happened to me when i moved in with my other half who already had a license and then again when we cancelled because we were moving out of our house, we then had letters to say they were coming to check as there wasn't a license registered to that property. We warned our tenant, but she claims she doesn't have one. Responding to them that you have no requirement for one anymore is like talking to a brick wall (in my experience).

I haven't had one letter.

Why would they check that she doesn't have a tv, you are allowed a tv.

Bingbangboom1 · 29/05/2024 14:22

Lifestooshort71 · 29/05/2024 14:10

Both are criminal offences (Communications Act of 2003) so yes, the bar is set pretty low.

The question is should it be a criminal offence to watch TV? No.
Driving whilst unqualified? Most definitely.

DeeCeeCherry · 29/05/2024 14:24

So cancel it. TV licence isn't compulsory, although lots of people seem to think it is and that BBC have control over every non-BBC channel that you watch. They do not, it's a myth

I cancelled mine 8 years ago. Simple cancellation form on their website that took less than 5 minutes to complete. I've managed to live without BBC/iPlayer/live TV. I have Netflix, Prime Video and Disney+, if I ever want to catch up on news I read it online on a non-BBC site. More than enough. I very occasionally get a form to re-confirm I dont watch live TV/need a TV Licence but thats it.

Megifer · 29/05/2024 14:25

x2boys · 29/05/2024 14:02

Yes but you can just ignore their letters ,they send them.on a loop, it's statts of gently reminding you that you don't have e a TV licence ,and they become increasingly more threatening ,saying they may send someone round to check ,( rarely happens) but if they do just ignore then and the loop starts again.

Yea I used to get them every couple of months and the text would get increasingly larger and redder 😆 last one was probably just before Christmas. Shame, the envelopes and back of the letters used to make good scrap paper for shopping lists.

Not had anyone turm up for a couple of years either. Last time the guy stuck his foot in the door, quickly removed it when I mentioned I had a very large feisty dog who might try to escape the ajar door.....through him 🤣 he went and sat in his van staring at the house for an hour. Weird guy.

thisisasurvivor · 29/05/2024 14:26

iamtheblcksheep · 29/05/2024 08:22

Depends on your opinion of what specifically you think they’re doing wrong.

For example I think the BBC are a left wing boiler house who support and give air time to rapist murdering terrorists but I find my news elsewhere.

BBC also employs these type of people too

So hell no am I paying the liscence

Bingbangboom1 · 29/05/2024 14:31

Megifer · 29/05/2024 14:25

Yea I used to get them every couple of months and the text would get increasingly larger and redder 😆 last one was probably just before Christmas. Shame, the envelopes and back of the letters used to make good scrap paper for shopping lists.

Not had anyone turm up for a couple of years either. Last time the guy stuck his foot in the door, quickly removed it when I mentioned I had a very large feisty dog who might try to escape the ajar door.....through him 🤣 he went and sat in his van staring at the house for an hour. Weird guy.

The psychology behind the letters is quite interesting actually. They are definitely designed to intimidate. They start of as a polite notice, then a threat, then block capitals stating you will be fined, then bright red capitals saying you will be visited and the final boss comes in the form of a bright red envelope with a specific date that you will be visited. They don't actually turn up on said date.

If you ignore them all and finally get a knock on the door, you tell the guy you don't require a licence, he goes away and after a few months they revert back to the polite notice letter and the whole process starts again. It's quite funny actually.

Megifer · 29/05/2024 14:33

Lifestooshort71 · 29/05/2024 14:10

Both are criminal offences (Communications Act of 2003) so yes, the bar is set pretty low.

Are they equally low? Where does 1mph over the speed limit sit? (which I am absolutely sure no one has ever done given that's also an offence)

Where do I stand with stealing an extra sachet of wasabi at the sushi counter at Tesco when I've only bought a snack pack of california rolls? Is that the same as driving with no licence?