To ask if Botox made you ill?

[Iceache]

Just that really. I had Botox for the first time today and began vomiting this evening (6 hours later) with a very upset stomach. Have I been hit by a stomach bug (I never get these!) or is it a reaction? I’m not particularly worried, but going for a top up in two weeks and would like not to relive this night if possible 😂

No.

no

No, I do get a very slight headache on the first day but otherwise nothing.

No, it will be totally unrelated

Never had any sort of reaction from Botox (except the desired one!)

A top up?
Botox works for 4 -6 months, and causes long term muscle damage when used in same muscle more than 3 times in your life. I definitely wouldn't use it twice so quickly. I inject botox for medical purposes (paediatric neurology), and there is more and more evidence coming out regarding the long term risks of botox.
Depending on muscles injected and experience of person doing it, there is a tiny chance of triggering your parasympathetic nervous system which can cause feelings of dizziness/nausea. But I have never heard of it making someone sick, so more likely to be a bug

My sister had it a lot and died of a brain tumour. I’m not saying they are related but I read about it crossing the blood brain barrier and would definitely be too scared to use it myself.

Never had that reaction. Maybe you ate something dodgy?
What is a top up in 2 weeks? I've had a follow up call at 2 weeks, but never a top up! 🤔

Well yes. You get a review appointment after a few weeks and if anything needs topped up a bit they do it. That's what it's for.

It must be a bug.

A top up after 2 weeks is normal. I’ve always been and had a top up.

Yes, I had this reaction to botox - stomach squelching like a washing machine and very sick. I didn't put 2+2 together to begin with, but googled it and it's a thing. I've never risked it since.

Ok this is interesting. I was erring on the side of bug, but I’m not sure. Having said that, I’ve been absolutely freezing all day long which I think was a sign of me coming down with this and that was even before the Botox. Seems most people are fine!

A top up after 2 weeks is normal ( they use the smallest possible dose which could work so as not to over do you, if its not had the required effect they top up a bit- also can take differently in each side so the appointment is for fine balancing too ). You might not need any more however.

Not had any adverse reaction ever personally. I have to have it for severe sweating, so big-ish amounts.

There is an awful stomach bug doing the rounds currently. May be something or nothing.

Medically it makes absolutely no sense to do a top up at 2 weeks. Botox takes a few weeks to start working, and reaches peak effectiveness at around 6-8 weeks post injection, then wearing off gradually after 3-4 months.

There is no way they can tell if you 'need' more after 2 weeks. They could possibly tell at around 6 weeks.
However, given that you should only have it 3 times ever into the same muscle, using up 2 of those 3 in a fortnight seems crazy

Unfortunately the cosmetic botox injectors rarely tell people about the risks from repeated injections, and will happily repeat it as many times as people will pay for it.

The long term damage includes muscle atrophy, fatty deposits in the muscles, a permenant change in the muscle structure

Two week top up is completely normal. They use the minimum amount possible so it may need tweaking after it has started to work. It works within a few days.

Thanks all! I did however only want to know if anyone else had been ill afterwards - I’m not really interested in a debate about the risks of Botox or whether I should be topping up etc!

Anyone who gets Botox isn't really in it to get it three times then never again...

Hopefully just a bug. If your treatment was done by a qualified medical practitioner, nurse, Dr, Dentist, Dental hygienist you're safer. I'd go to a Dentist personally as they are experts on the face structure and muscles. Never go to a 'beautician' for botox or fillers.

Bushmillsbabe is talking nonsense. The 2 week check-up/top-up is standard practice including from dermatologists, not just beauticians etc. It is included in the price - why would derms offer this if it wasn't necessary/safe? As for the only 3 times into one muscle, I don't know where that's come from. Botox is totally safe over the long term!

As a paediatric neurology consultant who injects botox for medical reasons, after 20 years medical training, I think I might have an idea about how, why and when botox works 😂

Yes, you would think a consultant would know what they're talking about. Surprising then that you clearly don't.

@Bushmillsbabe does that mean that a child who gets Botox treatment for whatever reason, can only have it three times then is cut off?

I only get a slight headache for about an hour.

Not necessarily, but the benefits have to be weighed up really carefully to evaluate whether the potential for long term muscle damage is worth the risk. For some children it may reduce their need for complex orthopaedic surgery, which also carries its own risks. Generally we would look at targeting the doses when most needed, and use other tone modifying medications, orthotics, casting and physio to help where possible. 10 years ago we were using it really often, but as more and more research is coming to light, we are more judicious in our use of it

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5677119/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2467981X23000215