Benefit Fraud and Drug Driving

[MrsDoylesMoles]

Name changed for this.

It's a long one so please bear with me.

My husband has an employee who has worked for him for years. We are close to him and his wife and by extension know their family quite well. Their son has a girlfriend (we'll call her Jane) and they have a DC the same age as our youngest DC. With children the same age Jane has become an acquaintance. We attend some of the same toddler groups etc.

Over the course of the last year two things have become clear. She is fraudulently claiming benefits and is smoking weed regularly, in the same way a smoker would smoke a regular cigarette.

Jane claims full benefits as she gave up work after having DC. Her boyfriend has all his mail delivered to his parents home and she claims she lives alone with DC. He works full time on an adequate income (around £30,000) and lives with Jane and their DC as a family in a council property. Jane also does a few shifts each week cash in hand.

Yesterday she popped round so DCs could play together and not only rolled and smoked a joint in my garden she then got in her car and drove home with DC. Safe to say she won't be coming round again.

Am I being unreasonable to be extremely annoyed by this woman and to hope she gets caught out?

Drink driving and drug driving should be zero tolerance. It's just disgusting behaviour and endangers her DC and any others using the roads when she is.

The benefits system should not be being abused in this way. I am a SAHM to 3 young DC and my husband is a higher rate tax payer. I gave up work to stay home and we made changes to our lifestyle to accommodate that. Why should some people get away with getting the best of both worlds by cheating the system. A system that is hard enough for genuine claimants to get proper support.

I've been stewing so need some perspective.

@ConsuelaHammock never heard of some of those examples before!

So.. your friends, Janes partners parents.. are facilitating this fraud...

Their son is involved in her fraudulent claim..

But it is JANE who is absolutely the bad guy and you're happy to remain friends with people who think this is ok?

Ok then.

If the school secretary and the teachers live in the local area they are well aware of who lives with who! Villages are small places!

Some people are a bit thick !?

It’s an online forum, nobody is going to see evidence, we can only go on what the OP says. My point is that she’s not wrong about the rules. My own opinion is that this is a well placed bit of propaganda.

Riiiiiiight. 😂

Is that the best you can do?

I don't need to "do" anything, I'm not the one making up rubbish to promote this benefits propaganda. Thankfully most people here have the intelligence not to fall for it going by this thread.

@MrsDoylesMoles how do you know so much detail about the financial affairs of your husband's employee's son's girlfriend?

Clever enough to outsmart the DWP but also thick enough to tell everyone about their crimes?

Sure, that sounds really likely.

It’s not all propaganda when it does happen! You’re naive to think it doesn’t.

No one is,saying benefit fraud doesn't happen, just that tales which involve knowing the details of the financial affairs of a husband's employee's son's girlfriend should be taken with a very large pinch of salt.

I don't think it doesn't happen. Of course it happens.

However I do not believe these mumsnet posts, with all the stereotypes you could think of thrown in based on what they've seen in the media about benefit claimants. Especially the fact that this is a pretty middle class site with many people who claim to be "high tax payers" but are close enough friends with weed smoking council house tenants who are so keen to tell them all about the fraud they're committing. Because that happens SO often in real life.

Tbh the dwp wouldn’t be that difficult to outsmart. Supply two addresses to school. Register dad at his parents’ house. Don’t post family pics on social media. Work cash in hand in the local pub or takeaway a couple of nights a week.

Bigger than ops.👀

My exact thoughts

If this is true, why did you even accept a racist into your house? Someone who takes any illegal drug is that in reality, as they are condoning the deaths of Mexicans, other central Americans and all others harmed by the illegal drug trade.

Lead balloon comes to mind on this thread.

Sorry this story is really odd.

There is no way that someone who smokes weed around the toddler just skinned up in someone else's house without knowing that other person thought it was a fine activity to be doing and wouldn't have a problem with it. No way.

So either this didn't happen.

Or you are usually cool with smoking weed and this person knows that but you've got some kind of bee in your bonnet about her benefits claim

Are you new here? I have no idea why some people think many posts are made up lol I guess if it hasn't happened to them or they don't know anyone like that then it's automatically bullshit. I have seen some people questioning whether it's real or not on some right mundane posts lol like what motivation would someone have to make up some stuff, we are all different and live in different areas and know different types of people and I actually do know a couple quite similar to the OP but I guess I'm talking shit now lol it's fucking ridiculous on here sometimes

Lol another one with the "no way would that ever happen" yeah it actually does I have seen it happen because some people just don't give a shit about doing stuff like that around their toddlers. But anyway like I said I must be talking shit too. Don't know why I'm getting so worked up here tbh lol it just winds me up when I see other posters saying it's clearly fake 🤨 yeah you are right it never happens anywhere because you haven't seen it or don't know anyone that would do it. Oh and I'm not saying this particular thread isn't fake because it might be but none of it seems unbelievable to me at all and when I read it I could picture a few people I have known over the years who have done this and they literally do not care who knows

I don't think OP is coming back to their thread...

Should have added she happened to have her UC page open on her phone, and I was able to glance at it as I pushed her out of my home and into her car onto the road with a toddler while under the influence of drugs.

See benefit scum or not if someone dared to smoke a joint in charge of a child and then attempted to get behind the wheel, I would have physically restrained them.

Really your AIBU should be am I a dickhead for sending a toddler into a car with her drug addled mother......YES OP YOU ARE V V V V V UNREASONABLE

You need to switch back to your other username, as you've posted this on the wrong one.

I don't think @LeopardsRockingham is the OP. I think they are pointing out that OP was unreasonable to let the OP's (deep breath) husband's employee's son's girlfriend drive a child home whilst under the influence of weed?