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Should I risk this holiday after all?

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SlovenlyOldSlut · 23/05/2024 11:58

I’ll try (and probably fail) to keep this short…

A group of six of us go away together two or three times a year. Sometimes we won’t all go if we’re struggling to get the same time off; sometimes other mutual friends may join us. But it’s us six at the core.

My friends Mike and Louise (married couple) are very close to Louise’s sister, Kate, and she’s been away with us a few times. We all get on really well, so when it was her 30th birthday, she invited the whole group to join her on her birthday weekend away.

The only person going who I hadn’t met yet was a woman called Cathy. Like me, she met Kate through Mike and Louise. I was travelling up with them and all the way they were saying, “I can’t believe you haven’t met Cathy before; she’s so nice, such a laugh, you’ll love her…”

Of course, this was the kiss of death 🙄 I found Cathy rude, domineering and generally a pain. She kept interrupting people, which is one of my pet peeves; she made quite a harsh judgement about one of my friends; some of the things she claimed about herself were at best suspicious and at worst just lies.

On the last day, we were all chatting about our favourite holiday resort, which is lovely but expensive. Mike said “Why don’t we plan in advance for next year and get a big villa? If we book quickly we can get a deal”. Everyone was very keen, including me. Then I heard Mike say, “You’ve never been before, have you Cathy? You’ll love it”.

My heart absolutely sank. It was entirely my own fault - of course he was including her in the invitation when she was sitting right there, but I’d heard “we” and automatically thought of our usual group. I’d been very enthusiastic a few moments before, so I couldn’t suddenly say “Oh well actually, I’m not sure”, but I was already planning my excuses. The thought of a week in a villa with her made me shudder.

However, salvation may have come in the form of procrastination and indecision 😄 Basically every time someone suggests a particular villa, someone else finds a problem: it’s too small, too expensive, too far from town… Anyway, two of my friends have clearly got fed up waiting and have messaged the group saying they’re booking their own accommodation and to go ahead with the villa without them.

Should I do the same? Obviously I’d rather Cathy wasn’t going at all, but it’s not like I can ask for her to be uninvited! So maybe being able to have my own accommodation, and somewhere to escape to when she gets too much, could be the answer. Maybe I’ll find her less difficult in a more relaxed setting - after all, three of my close friends think she’s fantastic, so I could be missing something. Or am I burying my head in the sand?

OP posts:
Creamteasandbumblebees · 27/05/2024 21:46

I wouldn't go. My holidays are sacred and I want everything (that is under my control) to be perfect. I wouldn't want to waste my time or money going on holiday with someone that got on my nerves.

Ginkypig · 27/05/2024 21:57

5foot5 · 23/05/2024 15:59

Hmm.

If Cathy has now become an "official" member of the group and is likely to be invited to and participates in future holidays, then I think you are either going to have to learn to live with her or accept your group holiday days are over.

I agree with this.

im not happy that I’m agreeing for your sake but this might be true and if it is pulling out of one holiday especially if she goes only puts her in your place for future holidays. 10 years on there may still be a core group but instead of you it’ll be her.
so either

you need to talk to your friends about how you feel. Or even one close friend in confidence to get an opinion from someone else.

pull out without explanation but be ready for this to become a regular thing, which means you not going leading to you potentially not ever going.

find a way to be ok with her potentially becoming part of the group.

Personally unless I really intensively disliked her I’d maybe try one more trip to see how I got on before making a final decision.

Johnthesensible · 27/05/2024 23:02

If so many of the group find her so appealing....maybe look at your future with the group. There will be times in the future where she will be going on another trip somewhere with you all.

BadLad · 28/05/2024 00:39

Cathy?

Is this her?

Should I risk this holiday after all?
SlovenlyOldSlut · 28/05/2024 11:54

Thank you for all the replies! I thought this thread had died, so was surprised to see it reappear in my watched list. All advice is appreciated 🙂

Personally unless I really intensively disliked her I’d maybe try one more trip to see how I got on before making a final decision.

This is what I’m thinking. If three of my close friends think she’s great, maybe I’m missing something? Or maybe they’re missing the red flags and I’m right - but I don’t want to exclude myself without knowing.

I’m trying not to give too much detail to avoid being outing, but a) the trip for Kate’s birthday didn’t really allow for “alone time” if anyone needed it, whereas this one would and b) there are reasons why Cathy probably wouldn’t be coming on every trip we take, so hopefully she wouldn’t become a permanent fixture!

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cockadoodledandy · 28/05/2024 19:49

Was she outnumbered in terms of people she knew vs didn’t know? Ie did you know everyone apart form her, whereas she only knew Mike, Louise and Kate? It sounds like she was maybe wanting people to like her so making an extra effort to sound interesting. It’s always difficult integrating with an established group.

Is it possible you’re a little jealous OP? I do tend to find when I take a dislike to someone like this that a) I’m jealous of them in some way and b) it’s obvious to everyone that I feel like that. Just be careful not to ostracise yourself.

NoThanksymm · 29/05/2024 01:42

yeah. Pick b a friend or two that you like and get your own villa. Hopefully she accidentally gets excluded.

Ireallywantadoughnut36 · 30/05/2024 17:41

Can you plead poverty... when I was younger I would be too embarrassed to do this, but I've started doing it now I'm in my late 30s and it's a god send! Nobody can say anything! They can't talk you round, just say "gosh I'm so sorry, I didn't check my savings and looks like it won't work this year"
Or book your own accomodation and see how it goes, you might warm to her. Maybe she's a bit of a pain with new people and was desperate to impress you, so made up some lies which you saw through! She might calm down once you get to know her - wouldn't risk a week in a villa on it though!

1HappyTraveller · 05/06/2024 20:14

SlovenlyOldSlut · 28/05/2024 11:54

Thank you for all the replies! I thought this thread had died, so was surprised to see it reappear in my watched list. All advice is appreciated 🙂

Personally unless I really intensively disliked her I’d maybe try one more trip to see how I got on before making a final decision.

This is what I’m thinking. If three of my close friends think she’s great, maybe I’m missing something? Or maybe they’re missing the red flags and I’m right - but I don’t want to exclude myself without knowing.

I’m trying not to give too much detail to avoid being outing, but a) the trip for Kate’s birthday didn’t really allow for “alone time” if anyone needed it, whereas this one would and b) there are reasons why Cathy probably wouldn’t be coming on every trip we take, so hopefully she wouldn’t become a permanent fixture!

You don’t need to stay in the same villa to realise you do/don’t like someone though. Definitely book alternative accommodation. If it turns out you like her, well that’s great! And if you still don’t like her then you haven’t ruined your holiday forcing yourself to live alongside her for a week in the same accommodation. Please update us after the holiday and let us know how it went. Good luck 😅

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