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To ask for advice - legal / driving DH being taken to claims court

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Grainyawaydays · 22/05/2024 13:04

Around two years ago DH had notification from his car insurance that someone 300 miles away was making a claim against him. He was 100% home all day that day and we weren’t notified of the claim until about three months after it had gone in and he’d actually had a new car by this point. He trades them fairly regularly due to his line of work.
insurance said they would fight it and eventually it was closed about 18 months after the alleged accident.
He has received a letter today from the small claims court and the other driver is alleging he caused £12k worth of damage to her car and she didn’t get his details because he fled the scene. She is now taking him to court personally for £14k (£12k plus costs incurred).
Hes on about his fourth car since this happened and we have no way of proving that this wasn’t him. But equally she can’t prove it was - because it wasn’t! The police don’t seem to have been informed and I do think if someone caused £12k of damage to my car and drove off I’d have informed them at the time.
we can only assume she has recorded the reg incorrectly - since she’s saying it was a fairly major crash but the other driver left the scene? So it’s possible she hasn’t recorded the correct reg in the moment. Or it was a cloned plate.
Any advice? It looks like DH is going to have to go to court - 300 miles away - and get a solicitor.

OP posts:
Malbecqueen · 23/05/2024 19:26

Apply to have the matter transferred to your local court.

write to her saying 1. You must be mistaken I have never driven there and 2. Give me the evidence you have to say it was us.

check the dates- she only has 3 years to file her claim otherwise she’s out of time and you have a limitation defence

make sure you file your papers in time- acknowledgment of service and defence.

gather as much evidence as you can- your file to your insurers will be part of it- emails saying “I wasn’t there” etc all tells a consistent story

dig in - don’t be scared of her- she does have to prove it was you

oh and try your insurers again- just because they closed the file doesn’t mean they don’t have a responsibility to reopen it- in fact, they probably do

Askingforafriendtoday · 23/05/2024 19:40

Grainyawaydays · 22/05/2024 13:27

We are still we with the same insurer.
Ive just asked DH and he says there’s not a time of accident so we don’t actually no when she alleging this to have happened.

Apparently it isn’t very expensive to take someone to court and her possible gain is £14k… wondering if it is a scam after all.

I'm wondering if it's anything to do with this driving scam OP, discussed on a recent edition of R4 You and Yours. Probs worth a listen and maybe contact them, they often sort people's hassles, this sounds like a mega hassle to me, link to episode below, they discuss 3 or 4 different issues each time
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001yxfy?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

You and Yours - Cost of University, Scarce Private Healthcare and Driving Licence Fraud - BBC Sounds

How the rising cost of university is even breaking the bank of mum and dad.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001yxfy?origin=share-mobile&partner=uk.co.bbc

StressedOutButProudMama · 23/05/2024 20:57

What you need to do now is get a solicitor and counter claim for loss of earnings for the days you need to attend court. Show any evidence you have at the time and confirmation that the insurers closed due to lack of contact. They'll have any logs of your tracking at the time etc and work logs.

noroboro · 23/05/2024 21:03

maybe if he sent any texts on that day or SMS type messages you can get the data from those showing where he was.

MargaretThursday · 23/05/2024 21:11

I'm not sure the DVLA will just hand out addresses to individuals with no evidence. Where I work we had a debt collector letter turned up claiming that car by registration "XXXX" owed a certain amount in a car parking fine. I contacted the DVLA to ask about the address for this car and they sent a letter confirming that it was not registered to our address, but they said under GDPR they couldn't give the new address for me to forward their fine onto.

Kjpt140v · 24/05/2024 00:42

Grainyawaydays · 22/05/2024 13:14

Ive checked my diary and I was at home that afternoon when it allegedly happened… but I’m not an unbiased witness. He was basically working at home all the time then as we weren’t far out of the pandemic.
No, he’s never been to the location of the alleged accident.
The issue with it being two years ago is we don’t have anything from that date that I can think of that would ‘prove’ it. He had online meetings that day so he could possibly go back and ask people there if they’d vouch for him but I doubt anyone would actually remember 100% that day if they saw him.

Data on his computer will support that he was not the offender, unless he works whilst he drives.

kop2054 · 24/05/2024 11:49

PBandJ111 · 22/05/2024 13:18

If he was on MS Teams calls you can get attendance reports. That may help.

Yes definitely do this. The IT person for his company should be able to get this for you or someone at his company who arranged the meeting. If you have just one meeting record it will show he couldn't have been 300 miles away. This must be such an awful worry for you.

You can see what's happened, some poor lady has been in an accident and in a state of shock took down the registration incorrectly. She probably totally believes she is right, although strange her solicitor didn't respond to the request for more information about the colour of the car etc. I have to admit that makes me suspicious. Either way I'm sure from the previous back and forth between the insurance companies and their conclusion, it must have been obvious it wasn't your dh. I truly hope you can get the meeting records so you can sort it out once and for all. Good luck.

Perfectpots · 24/05/2024 11:56

Talk to his insurers. My insurance company took another insurance company to court .

Agree re the number plate. V easy to misremember and take it down wrong. I did , but remembered the name of the company on the vehicle so it / the driver could be traced.

pollymere · 24/05/2024 14:11

You can find out car colour by looking up registration. A court will throw it out. I can't believe a solicitor thinks they have a case.

  1. She has no photos of your car nor the damage to her own.
  2. You have some evidence to show you were 300 miles away.

I had someone claim I scraped their car. They couldn't prove it was me and the case was closed. I was sympathetic as it was a nasty scrape. If they'd pursued it privately they would have had to prove I'd done the damage which they couldn't. The onus is on the woman to prove it.

Toptops · 24/05/2024 18:07

I feel for you. A year ago, some maniac careered down our road in the middle of the night, hitting my parked car and shunting it into my neighbour's parked car which hit a lamp post. He wrote off 2 cars plus his own. My husband was woken by the crash, went downstairs in time to film him running away from the scene. Husband phoned the police, shared photos etc. all info went to our insurance co who paid me something for my year old to me car. It was all a giant pita, expensive and inconvenient.
Just now, a year later, my insurance co have emailed wanting to know if we will appear in the small claims court because he alleged I PULLED OUT IN FRONT OF HIS RIGHTFULLY DRIVEN CAR!!! AT 3 IN THE MORNING!!
We said yes because we don't want him to get away with it.
But like you, I can't believe we are having to disprove something that didn't happen!
I'm amazed the industry hasn't got smarter ways of dealing with these chancers.
Good luck with it.

Stressedmum1966 · 24/05/2024 18:49

My elderly parents had something like this but the police were involved. It turns out their car number plate had been cloned.

good luck

T1Dmama · 24/05/2024 20:30

Grainyawaydays · 22/05/2024 13:14

Ive checked my diary and I was at home that afternoon when it allegedly happened… but I’m not an unbiased witness. He was basically working at home all the time then as we weren’t far out of the pandemic.
No, he’s never been to the location of the alleged accident.
The issue with it being two years ago is we don’t have anything from that date that I can think of that would ‘prove’ it. He had online meetings that day so he could possibly go back and ask people there if they’d vouch for him but I doubt anyone would actually remember 100% that day if they saw him.

Aren’t minutes of meetings taken and attendees listed?

T1Dmama · 24/05/2024 20:58

Grainyawaydays · 22/05/2024 20:48

No one else would have been driving his car - it was here on the drive.
the insurers advised us not to respond and we didn’t - we have that on an email paper trail.
We originally sent the car journey log which showed the car only made one journey that day, about two miles away. Dh’s boss sent a letter confirming he had been on multiple calls throughout the day from home.
Hes never been to that area.
The insurers closed it on the basis that there was no response from the claimant.

Forward all this info onto the solicitor again?? Or phone the court direct and ask if it’s a scam?

FUKay · 25/05/2024 08:03

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 22/05/2024 21:06

Could it have been the person who had the car after him and she's fiddled the date of the accident which is why it's ended up with you?

American and UK date formats could be to blame if this is the case....
Eg 11.06.22 instead of 06.11.22

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