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Is 'pearl-clutching' the best you can do?

64 replies

VestibuleVirgin · 17/05/2024 05:27

This seems to be the perjorative phrase du jour here.
Just because someone disagrees with a view, or raises a concern, or who presents a considered, unselfish opinion, they are equated to what most posters here seem to believe is a failydail reader who is assumed to be a country-based, retired colonel's wife, who wears sensible shoes, and a twin-set and pearls combo, and who has the vapours at the way society is going?
A middle-class version of a 'Karen'

OP posts:
5128gap · 17/05/2024 11:09

DustyLee123 · 17/05/2024 11:03

The worst type of misogyny is that from a woman.

Not even close. Women misogynists typically restrict themselves to saying stupid things about other women. Male misogynists kill us.

Rumors1 · 17/05/2024 11:18

I have just seen a post from a cousin of mine on FB saying that people didnt like Bambie Thug's performance on Eurovision as they were Catholic pearl clutchers!!

No I didnt like it as it was sh*t. It was an assault on my senses.

But of course a difference of opinion cant be tolerated and if I am not woke I am a pearly clutcher !!

TorroFerney · 17/05/2024 13:25

They do have a name - thought terminating clichés - the entire point of them is to shut down and stifle debate.

There are loads that aren't sexist though, suppose the female ones get trotted out on here because posters are women but are unable to see the irony of using a sexist one. Bit like the calm down dear Michael Winner one. We (as women) are socialised / groomed to be sexist I think by a sexist society as we hear put downs linked to sex all the time - runs like a girl/throws like a girl. I think it is incumbent on us to use proper words and not sexist ones. So perhaps say i think you are really overreacting and not accuse ourselves of pearl clutching.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 17/05/2024 13:29

ineedtostopbeingdramaticfirst · 17/05/2024 06:23

I dislike any phrase where the sole purpose is to silence someone who you disagree with.

Notice how these types of phrases are all aimed at women.

Aimed at women but also used by women against other women. Why is that?

I've never heard pearl-clutching used anywhere but here, nor Karen. They're stupid, reductive terms really but we can't seem to stop using them for fear of not fitting in. Stupid.

GentlemanJohnny · 17/05/2024 13:52

VestibuleVirgin · 17/05/2024 05:27

This seems to be the perjorative phrase du jour here.
Just because someone disagrees with a view, or raises a concern, or who presents a considered, unselfish opinion, they are equated to what most posters here seem to believe is a failydail reader who is assumed to be a country-based, retired colonel's wife, who wears sensible shoes, and a twin-set and pearls combo, and who has the vapours at the way society is going?
A middle-class version of a 'Karen'

The second you used the term "Karen" you lost me OP.

WaftherAngelsthroughtheskies · 17/05/2024 14:00

Well, I'm a country-living, pearl-wearing 50something retired Colonel's wife. I'm also an Oxbridge graduate, mother of teenage boys, and have spent 30+ years at the gritty end of the criminal justice system, all of which have raised my shockability threshold. However, there are some cultural and societal developments that I'm never going to be on board with, and wouldn't have supported at any age. I exercise my right not to agree with every trend or bandwagon, and will cheerfully argue my case.
I do sometimes use the phrase 'clutching my pearls', humorously, about myself. I might even do so, affectionately, about my mother or sister. I would never use it dismissively or pejoratively against another woman. And I would not appreciate it being directed at me to shut me up or denigrate my opinion.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 17/05/2024 14:46

LadyHavelockVetinari · 17/05/2024 10:16

It's misogynistic. I don't care since I bought myself a beautiful pearl necklace for my 30th birthday, it's the only expensive and "real" piece of jewellery I have ever owned and I love it. I wear it with everything and feel amazing. If ever I get accused of being a pearl clutcher I think, damn right! You will have to prize these bastards out of my cold dead hands! I know that's not the intended message but it still entertains me.

Oh Its my birthday soon. I have some fake pearl necklaces. I really feel like buying myself a lovely real set of pearls. I've always loved them! We should reclaim pearl clutching.

Deathbyfluffy · 17/05/2024 14:51

ineedtostopbeingdramaticfirst · 17/05/2024 06:23

I dislike any phrase where the sole purpose is to silence someone who you disagree with.

Notice how these types of phrases are all aimed at women.

No they're not - there's a good few aimed at men too.
'Gammon' is a popular one, as is Kevin (which is a male Karen).

LadyHavelockVetinari · 17/05/2024 16:51

DramaLlamaBangBang · 17/05/2024 14:46

Oh Its my birthday soon. I have some fake pearl necklaces. I really feel like buying myself a lovely real set of pearls. I've always loved them! We should reclaim pearl clutching.

Edited

Honestly I highly recommend!! I've never treated myself like that and it feels amazing, I'm happy everytime I put them on.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 17/05/2024 17:01

I don't like it either OP. I also can't stand when posters (like many here) shout 'misogyny' as a way of putting down arguments they don't agree with. We are all individuals FFS, some women seem to think they have the right to choose what is the 'women's perspective' on things and presume all others to be mindless victims of a male dominated society when they don't automatically agree.

TammyJones · 17/05/2024 17:44

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This has been withdrawn at user request.

I've found this.
I've had to report countless personal attacks.
Don't know why people can't disagree without being rude/obnoxious.

VestibuleVirgin · 17/05/2024 17:48

GentlemanJohnny · 17/05/2024 13:52

The second you used the term "Karen" you lost me OP.

Of course you failed to understand they are essentially the same.
But let's not read the full thread and throw in the "you lost me at Karen' trope
Well done

OP posts:
VestibuleVirgin · 17/05/2024 17:54

Mrsjayy · 17/05/2024 07:50

You call non swearers "Karen" are you not very bright ?

Wrong thread, sweetie

OP posts:
JaneJeffer · 17/05/2024 18:04

a failydail reader who is assumed to be a country-based, retired colonel's wife, who wears sensible shoes, and a twin-set and pearls combo, and who has the vapours at the way society is going?
It's almost as if you can see me

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