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How much meat do you eat?

379 replies

lanya · 16/05/2024 16:01

Recently I've noticed in my circles that pretty much everyone is cutting back on meat due to environmental/ climate reasons.

Most people I know aren't vegetarian, but are more aware/ more careful about the amount they eat, e.g. only once or twice per week.

I am wondering whether this is the case generally across the UK, or if most people are carrying on as normal?

YABU: We are eating the same amount of meat as we always have.
YANBU: We have reduced our meat intake over the last few years for climate reasons.

Disclaimer: This isn't any kind of brag or meant to be condescending - I'm just curious.

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Meadowfinch · 17/05/2024 07:10

@BiologicsBeforeIdeology But for those of us who live rurally, it is easy to source meat that is not factory farmed. Each year I buy half a lamb that has grown up in the fields beside my house. The smallholder is my neighbour. I buy venison, duck & pigeon breast from the town butcher, which comes from the local estate.

Veganism is not the only answer. I simply choose a known and trusted source.

SallyWD · 17/05/2024 07:16

None. Haven't eaten meat for 30 years. I do occasionally have fish though.

SallyWD · 17/05/2024 07:16

None. Haven't eaten meat for 30 years. I do occasionally have fish though.

BadLad · 17/05/2024 07:24

Rarely eat meat for breakfast, but I have it every lunch and then again in the evening, if fish counts as meat. I don't have any intention of stopping or cutting back.

Kalevala · 17/05/2024 07:25

Whenwillitgetwarm · 17/05/2024 06:48

It’s totally normal not to eat cheap meat everyday. Post WW2, many families only ate red meat on a Sunday as it was expensive.
Now you can get a pack of sausages for £1. The state those animals must be raised in…
The thought of eating sausages and bacon, ham etc everyday makes me feel queasy.

I saw a documentary about the state of ‘free range’ chicken and farmed salmon. It was gross. The salmon are so deformed and sickly they have to inject them with pink dye so people will buy it. Won’t eat it anymore, no matter what ‘sustainable’ credentials are on the pack.

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You can't compare with the past as now any chicken I'd want to eat costs more than the cheaper cuts of local beef or wild venison. Red meat is the more affordable option for me. We don't do a Sunday roast, we go for less meat over more days, one pot style. Number of days is meaningless.

Neolara · 17/05/2024 07:29

Nobody needs meat. I've been veggie for 33 years and perfectly healthy. People like to eat it.

Patcherdog · 17/05/2024 07:31

I eat meat often it's delicious. I try and buy good quality high welfare meat.

Blackcats7 · 17/05/2024 07:31

Meadowfinch · 17/05/2024 07:01

@Blackcats7 I tried a vegetarian diet recently, having been inspired by an exchange student. I managed a week.

Vegetarian food just doesn't fill me up. I felt weak and tired despite eating risottos, plenty of nuts, pulses, root veg and cheese.

I gave it a good try but I was constantly reaching for the biscuits.

So I am content to reduce my meat intake which I have done. I'm an omnivore and eating meat/poultry 5 meals out of 14, and fish 4 meals out of 14 is a good balance for me.

Every person has different dietary needs at different stages in their lives.

Absolutely your choice and I would never comment on anybody's diet.
It was purely misinformation presented as fact which I took objected too.
A well balanced vegetarian diet can meet all dietary needs just as much as a meat eating diet can. That's all.

kikisparks · 17/05/2024 07:35

G123456789 · 16/05/2024 16:15

Ok, so what happens to pigs, cows, sheep, chickens etc when every one goes vegan? Meat doesn't have to be cruel. I'm sat in my lounge with a chicken that we rescued two years ago from a battery farm (4 original girls, 3 have died and it would be very unfair on Maggie to get anymore she would be bullied). She's preening day in my chair, I'm on the sofa about to check for eggs. I eat organic or farm assured meat and eggs from my girls

Well the world wouldn’t go vegan overnight. As the demand dropped, less animals would be bred to be killed.

Sourisblanche · 17/05/2024 07:36

None except occasional fish. The overuse of antibiotics in the farming industry really worries me for increased antibiotic resistance.

Also my mum has terminal bowel cancer and the link to red meat consumption is enough to put me off ever starting to eat meat again.

kikisparks · 17/05/2024 07:37

KnittedCardi · 16/05/2024 16:17

Furthermore, numerous other plant-based foods are rich in protein. Legumes like lentils, chickpeas, and various types of beans not only pack a substantial protein punch but are also rich in fiber and other nutrients. Tofu, tempeh, and edamame, all derived from soybeans, are among the richest plant-based protein sources and can easily rival the protein content in meats. Seeds and nuts, along with their butters, are not only versatile and delicious but also excellent protein sources

All very laudable, but none grown in the UK, therefore not seasonable nor sustainable. We need to move towards a more homegrown diet, and that includes meat, as much of the land in the UK is only suitable for grazing.

In environmental terms imported plants are better than local animal products as most emissions are generated at the production, not transfer stage.

kikisparks · 17/05/2024 07:43

wickerlady · 16/05/2024 16:54

@SingleSexSafeSpace if you're deadlifting 145KG on a vegan diet, I very much doubt your carbon footprint is less than mine 😆

Also why are you testing your blood so often? Weird.

The carbon footprint of a plant based diet is lower. All peer reviewed research shows this. Most emissions are generated at the production, not transport stage. An area the size of Yorkshire is used to grow food for pigs in the UK and much of what is fed to farmed animals here has been grown in deforested areas.

kikisparks · 17/05/2024 07:48

lanya · 16/05/2024 17:14

This thread wasn't meant to make anyone feel bad so it's a shame people are posting videos to try and make people feel guilty, and on the other side posting brags about their beef dinners which I assume is making a point that they will carry on eating meat despite this.

It's just a shame people can't just have a grown up and respectful discussion.

I don't judge anyone for eating meat and I eat meat myself.

At the same time, I think it's a really good thing if people feel that they would like to cut back a bit to lessen the impact on our planet. Or simply to listen and try to understand more about the impact on the planet.

We all have to make our own choices and try to respect the choices of others.

42% of people who responded to the poll said they eat less meat which I think is a very good step in the right direction :)

The videos aren’t trying to make people feel guilty though, this is literally what you pay for when you buy animal products? It’s not like it’s a lie that pigs scream in gas chambers, or that male chicks are gassed or ground up at a day old in the egg industry, or that lambs painfully have their tails removed and the 100s of other horrors we perpetuate on these beings. If it was happening to dogs nobody would argue against our right to stand up for them.

catlady7 · 17/05/2024 07:48

kikisparks · 17/05/2024 07:35

Well the world wouldn’t go vegan overnight. As the demand dropped, less animals would be bred to be killed.

It's never going to happen either way 🤷‍♀️

catlady7 · 17/05/2024 07:49

Neolara · 17/05/2024 07:29

Nobody needs meat. I've been veggie for 33 years and perfectly healthy. People like to eat it.

Actually some do

kikisparks · 17/05/2024 07:52

Daffodilsandbagels · 16/05/2024 22:09

I’m a life-long vegetarian but I’m trying to go more plant-based because of climate concerns. For example I have switched to oat milk.

Is there anything you haven’t found a good switch for yet? Might have a suggestion.

catlady7 · 17/05/2024 07:54

Blackcats7 · 17/05/2024 06:47

Ok then, explain why a human needs meat please.
It is completely possible to meet all dietary requirements with a vegetarian diet.
I would never try to make meat eaters become vegetarian. All my friends are meat eaters and I have never so much as raised the subject with any of them.
But I will take issue with false information as posted here that that someone's OH has to eat meat because they work hard in order to get all their vitamin requirements because this is totally mistaken.

It is for some people. I started to feel like shit having to stop dairy and soya (for now) as my daughter has allergies. I've upped my meat intake and starting to feel so much better. Feel more human. Plus I wouldn't feel very full on a vegan diet. So it's not for me

StrongasSixpence · 17/05/2024 07:54

Most weeks we only eat meat for dinner for one meal (batch cooking means we might eat this meal for a few days though). I usually only buy one pack of meat per big shop and often buy none at all. Almost always chicken or fish, rarely red or processed meat. We eat a lot of Tofu, lentils, Chickpeas etc.

This is equally down to environmental, cost and personal preference reasons. I'm a good cook and really like a lot of veggie and vegan recipes.

purpleleotard2 · 17/05/2024 07:55

none
Been a veggie for the last 37 years.
Easy

Negangirlxx · 17/05/2024 07:55

I eat meat pretty much every day.

I’m Autistic so I only eat what I consider to be “safe foods” and I tend to eat a lot of chicken. I do eat other meats, but chicken is the one I eat most, as it’s quite tasty and is a good source of nutrients, e.g. protein etc. especially for someone with a restricted diet. I do like red meat on occasion, but not regularly. I also am partial to a bit of fish, or prawns.

kikisparks · 17/05/2024 07:56

catlady7 · 17/05/2024 07:48

It's never going to happen either way 🤷‍♀️

Well if that’s the case then there’s no need for the question “what happens to all the cows”. But people always seem so concerned that the broken bodied animals we exploit and slaughter might go “extinct”. They are not natural species anyway, for example chickens bred and killed for meat have been selectively bred to gain weight at an exponential rate so they can be gassed at weeks old and generate maximum profit. Of course it’s not actually healthy to gain weight like that and some of them cannot even stand by the end.

Snowpaw · 17/05/2024 07:57

Every day. Usual day would involve eggs for breakfast, chicken breast in some form for lunch and maybe beef / lamb or salmon for tea.

IncompleteSenten · 17/05/2024 07:58

kikisparks · 17/05/2024 07:48

The videos aren’t trying to make people feel guilty though, this is literally what you pay for when you buy animal products? It’s not like it’s a lie that pigs scream in gas chambers, or that male chicks are gassed or ground up at a day old in the egg industry, or that lambs painfully have their tails removed and the 100s of other horrors we perpetuate on these beings. If it was happening to dogs nobody would argue against our right to stand up for them.

Indeed. If we can't stand to see the reality of how the meat ends up on our plates we shouldn't eat it. I think we do need to face facts about what we eat.

And the conditions the people who manufacture our goods live in for that matter.

I don't want to see it, I just want to benefit from it is cowardly.

If we (myself included here) are going to have these things we should at least have the balls to see exactly what we paid for.

fieldsofbutterflies · 17/05/2024 07:58

Neolara · 17/05/2024 07:29

Nobody needs meat. I've been veggie for 33 years and perfectly healthy. People like to eat it.

What about people with allergies or stomach conditions that mean they can only eat a very limited number of foods?

Blackcats7 · 17/05/2024 08:00

catlady7 · 17/05/2024 07:54

It is for some people. I started to feel like shit having to stop dairy and soya (for now) as my daughter has allergies. I've upped my meat intake and starting to feel so much better. Feel more human. Plus I wouldn't feel very full on a vegan diet. So it's not for me

And again, your diet your choice.
Individual anecdotal experiences don’t change the numerous respected clinical studies widely accepted throughout the world that a vegetarian diet is able to meet all dietary requirements for humans.
I am not here to convert anybody. I just don’t like opinions represented as fact which was the cause for my original comment.

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