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To think this isn't panic buying?

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AtomicBlondeRose · 16/05/2024 10:04

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/devon-cryptosporidium-outbreak-school-closed-hundreds-ill-latest-updates/

This is an awful situation in Devon, but why on earth is people buying bottled water in a situation where the water is undrinkable "panic buying" - it seems like perfectly sensible buying to me? Every single person needs the equivalent of multiple bottles of water every day, and I would say those who have the ability to buy it are actually being fairly considerate in leaving stocks of the bottled water being provided by the water companies for those who need it.

Not all stocking up is panic buying! It is sometimes a very rational response to the situation you're in.

People plagued with Devon parasite tell of ‘worst illness ever’ as school forced to close and residents panic buy water

Victims of a microscopic parasite in water supplies in Devon have described their illness saying it is the 'worst' they have ever had.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/devon-cryptosporidium-outbreak-school-closed-hundreds-ill-latest-updates

OP posts:
crumbpet · 16/05/2024 12:28

Mrsjayy · 16/05/2024 12:25

I probably wouldn't either as I said before Dh has had this it really isn't a 24 hour bug situation it is horrible and can last weeks dh was really ill and needed a couple of courses of antibiotics.

I was antibacterial spraying and bleaching everywhere using gloves to put his washing In the machine. I.cant imagine what a whole town is going through the anxiety must be through the roof.

Oh that sounds awful poor thing

Mrsjayy · 16/05/2024 12:32

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 12:28

Oh that sounds awful poor thing

It was a horrible .I saw the news this morning and thought oh no those poor people, Dh caught it in the UK too

ThePrecipitationPigeon · 16/05/2024 12:34

GabriellaMontez · 16/05/2024 11:49

Public health England aren't mentioned in that article.

Did you make that up to justify calling people 'hard of thinking'?

Public Health England is now UKHSA, which is mentioned.

caringcarer · 16/05/2024 12:35

I wouldn't drink the tap water even when boiled until I was certain it was safe. I'd buy bottled and drive a good distance to get it if not available locally.

GabriellaMontez · 16/05/2024 12:41

@crumbpet

Yes. Then lied and minimised.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelford_water_pollution_incident

easylikeasundaymorn · 16/05/2024 12:49

PiranhaPeaches · 16/05/2024 10:12

why on earth is people buying bottled water in a situation where the water is undrinkable "panic buying"

Because the water is potable once it's boiled.

They could just boil water and then drink it when it's cooled.

But no, people are swarming supermarkets and clearing them out because they're panicking.

But you still need a fair amount of large containers to put the boiled water into - to store in the fridge (nobody is going to want to drink lukewarm water), a bottle to put upstairs to brush teeth etc.

Plus boiling multiple kettles of water then storing them somewhere (because you cant put boiling water directly into plastic bottles) while the water cools down then decanting them into smaller bottles is time consuming by the time you're doing 2-3 litres per day per person.

So buying a few (2-3 big bottles per person) seems sensible. Agree buying multiple crates per family is unnecessary but if its a choice between spending an hour or two a day faffing round with boiling water for the whole family or 50p on a large bottle can see why people do the second.

Surely it's more of a supply issue - it's limited to a specific area of the UK so it would make sense for supermarkets to divert water bottles from elsewhere to there where possible.

Plus the supermarkets were perfectly able to impose limited purchases per person during covid so surely they can do the same there if panic buying is an issue?

GabriellaMontez · 16/05/2024 12:52

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 16/05/2024 12:13

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4rrmplxllo

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd1813768n0o

Both articles mention that the investigations were commenced due to public health identifying an outbreak, with UKHSA then investigating it.

"The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) said investigations into the source were ongoing"

If people want to invent conspiracy theories, that our public health agencies are perpetrating some kind of bizarre cover up of a chemical leak, that's up to them, but I'm not going to play along and pretend that those conspiracy theories are reasonable.

I agree that the water companies are dodgy as anything, not trustworthy at all, but it wasn't them that raised the alarm on this. Disbelieving that the source is a parasite means you think our public health agencies are lying.

Edited

Ooh interesting idea about conspiracy theories.

That wouldn't be my first thought.

Good old fashioned incompetence would be my concern.

Nice straw man though.

Disbelieving that the source is a parasite means you think our public health agencies are lying.

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 12:55

easylikeasundaymorn · 16/05/2024 12:49

But you still need a fair amount of large containers to put the boiled water into - to store in the fridge (nobody is going to want to drink lukewarm water), a bottle to put upstairs to brush teeth etc.

Plus boiling multiple kettles of water then storing them somewhere (because you cant put boiling water directly into plastic bottles) while the water cools down then decanting them into smaller bottles is time consuming by the time you're doing 2-3 litres per day per person.

So buying a few (2-3 big bottles per person) seems sensible. Agree buying multiple crates per family is unnecessary but if its a choice between spending an hour or two a day faffing round with boiling water for the whole family or 50p on a large bottle can see why people do the second.

Surely it's more of a supply issue - it's limited to a specific area of the UK so it would make sense for supermarkets to divert water bottles from elsewhere to there where possible.

Plus the supermarkets were perfectly able to impose limited purchases per person during covid so surely they can do the same there if panic buying is an issue?

Edited

It would be great to see supermarkets divert supplies to these areas and start selling it at cost price and rationing bottles to 2/3 per member of your family

buffyslayer · 16/05/2024 13:13

We had this issue a few years ago and couldn't drink the water for weeks
I didn't boil it as I'm immunocompromised so all the water I used was bottled
Was a nightmare TBH and none supplied by the water company to either home or work

Choochoo21 · 16/05/2024 13:14

I hope that there is something put in place for the elderly/disabled/terminally ill residents.

The bottles of water are heavy and if you don’t drive and aren’t physically strong, then you’d struggle.

These are also the people who need this clean water, more than other residents who can just boil it and take more risk.

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 13:26

GabriellaMontez · 16/05/2024 12:41

@crumbpet

Yes. Then lied and minimised.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelford_water_pollution_incident

Oh that poor driver!

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 13:27

Choochoo21 · 16/05/2024 13:14

I hope that there is something put in place for the elderly/disabled/terminally ill residents.

The bottles of water are heavy and if you don’t drive and aren’t physically strong, then you’d struggle.

These are also the people who need this clean water, more than other residents who can just boil it and take more risk.

Or the people already ill? They should probably have clean supplies delivered

summerhouseathetop · 16/05/2024 14:20

Choochoo21 · 16/05/2024 13:14

I hope that there is something put in place for the elderly/disabled/terminally ill residents.

The bottles of water are heavy and if you don’t drive and aren’t physically strong, then you’d struggle.

These are also the people who need this clean water, more than other residents who can just boil it and take more risk.

I have family in Brixham.
Free water (6 x 1 litre bottles) was being given out from a car park on the outskirts.
My elderly parents had a phonecall from someone in local authority offering to deliver free water to them.

Precipice · 16/05/2024 14:25

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 12:55

It would be great to see supermarkets divert supplies to these areas and start selling it at cost price and rationing bottles to 2/3 per member of your family

How are supermarkets going to know how many people live in your house? Per capita rationing requires a centralised system (even on a local level) with records.

Knackeredhamster · 16/05/2024 14:51

I've just read our only supermarket in small town has run out of bottled water. I'm in south Devon
We're not even in the same area as Brixham.
South west water, people are scared I guess.

CactusMactus · 16/05/2024 15:28

Don't live anywhere near Devon but just added 2 x 5lt bottles to my Ocado...

Atethehalloweenchocs · 16/05/2024 15:34

I have sometimes been accused of 'panic buying' toilet roll. Thing is, I have bought direct from Who Gives a Crap for years, pre pandemic, and will continue to do so because I like what they do. Sounds like the journo thought panic buying sounded catchier than buying and bunged it in.

TripleDaisySummer · 16/05/2024 15:35

AtomicBlondeRose · 16/05/2024 10:29

If I had small children, babies or anyone with poor health at home, I don't think I'd feel very secure just boiling tap water when it is clearly causing a large amount of illness.

I'd be cautious to with family member like this - and at minute exam season in us with my teens in that age range as well.

I know boiling is supposed to be enough but I'd be over cautious and just buy bottled if I had any worries - and frankly with larger house hold I'd probably be using bottle water and boiled just so there is enough.

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 15:35

Atethehalloweenchocs · 16/05/2024 15:34

I have sometimes been accused of 'panic buying' toilet roll. Thing is, I have bought direct from Who Gives a Crap for years, pre pandemic, and will continue to do so because I like what they do. Sounds like the journo thought panic buying sounded catchier than buying and bunged it in.

Yeah same. Buying in bulk isn't panic buying. It's buying in bulk

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 15:36

Precipice · 16/05/2024 14:25

How are supermarkets going to know how many people live in your house? Per capita rationing requires a centralised system (even on a local level) with records.

They'll just have to trust people. It's very unlikely EVERYONE will claim to have 10 people living in their house

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 15:37

GabriellaMontez · 16/05/2024 12:41

@crumbpet

Yes. Then lied and minimised.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelford_water_pollution_incident

Awful.

As for those saying just boil the water.. then you'd just be eating dead parasites?

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 16/05/2024 15:48

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 15:37

Awful.

As for those saying just boil the water.. then you'd just be eating dead parasites?

I hate to break it to you, but you’re eating dead parasites every day.

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 15:50

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 16/05/2024 15:48

I hate to break it to you, but you’re eating dead parasites every day.

Whaaat

Confortableorwhat · 16/05/2024 15:56

crumbpet · 16/05/2024 15:37

Awful.

As for those saying just boil the water.. then you'd just be eating dead parasites?

What do you think happens to the parasites in safe drinking water?

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