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To think no one can take your man if he's not willing

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twoblackdogs · 15/05/2024 11:07

Just this, really.
Or your woman, of course, the same principle applies.
Had a rather drunken conversation with a friend of a friend on the line of "bad women coming to get my poor DP". I said nobody can take him if he doesn't want to be taken. She said all men can be taken.
I don't think so.
Do you?

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Lavender14 · 15/05/2024 12:43

On the whole I agree with you op, which is why men need to be held fully accountable for their actions. But I guess sometimes marriages go through very difficult periods where I think someone who normally would never cheat, might be more inclined to make bad decisions . I'm not talking run of the mill difficult, but maybe challenges that are longer term. There's a 3rd leg of the stool theory, where someone isn't getting their needs met in the marriage but also really doesn't want to leave the marriage so the other person becomes the third leg of the stool propping the marriage up. So in that respect I kind of think your friend is right in that under the right conditions and pressure any of us can do awful things.

arethereanyleftatall · 15/05/2024 12:47

I think it's a mix.

There are definitely some people who are only as faithful as their opportunities.

But good people wouldn't do it no matter what.

But, I do think if one of you is the first paragraph, when you're knee deep in the hard work of life, it's far more exciting to receive a 'guess what I'm wearing' type text rather than 'can you pick up some washing powder on the way home.'

takemeawayagain · 15/05/2024 13:05

Men don't have to cheat just because the opportunity presents itself. That doesn't make it ok for women to crack on with other women's husbands though.

GoodHeavens99 · 15/05/2024 13:43

twoblackdogs · 15/05/2024 11:07

Just this, really.
Or your woman, of course, the same principle applies.
Had a rather drunken conversation with a friend of a friend on the line of "bad women coming to get my poor DP". I said nobody can take him if he doesn't want to be taken. She said all men can be taken.
I don't think so.
Do you?

Absolutely.
People aren't pebbles on a beach.

You can't take someone who doesn't want to go.

Shoxfordian · 15/05/2024 13:46

I agree with you not your friend, she sounds very insecure and immature

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 15/05/2024 13:53

Dolly, is that you?

twoblackdogs · 15/05/2024 13:54

Still, when I hear that "take my man"...
So he sits there at the bar all helpless and defenceless, and then suddenly bad women start to crawl out of dark corners, flashing red eyes, kicking aside all the other men to get to him as quick as possible.
I know there's low self-esteem at play for her, I know all that, and still it all seems so, I don't know, childish?
That said, I myself have lost a friend who deliberately slept with our mutual acquaintance. His wife had problems at childbirth and was in the hospital for a long time, and he probably was caught at a very bad moment of weakness, but this is not what one does to a friend's husband, isn't it?

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IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 15/05/2024 13:56

twoblackdogs · 15/05/2024 13:54

Still, when I hear that "take my man"...
So he sits there at the bar all helpless and defenceless, and then suddenly bad women start to crawl out of dark corners, flashing red eyes, kicking aside all the other men to get to him as quick as possible.
I know there's low self-esteem at play for her, I know all that, and still it all seems so, I don't know, childish?
That said, I myself have lost a friend who deliberately slept with our mutual acquaintance. His wife had problems at childbirth and was in the hospital for a long time, and he probably was caught at a very bad moment of weakness, but this is not what one does to a friend's husband, isn't it?

It's also not what one does to one's wife who has just had one's baby!

Also, it would be pretty hard for her to accidentally sleep with him, wouldn't it?

Riverlee · 15/05/2024 13:57

Whothewho · 15/05/2024 12:19

There will always be insecure women who will do this unfortunately but if my husband is willing to go off with the first woman who needs some outside validation I don’t really want him as my husband anyway.

Or to honour a previous poster - you can have him Jolene 😂

Well, since the last song, I've had time to think it over
A lot of tears, a lot of beer, a lot of wine
I spent so much time believin' that that midnight phone stopped ringin'
But he'd leave the room and answer every time
Well, it didn't seem so easy with that broken glass in pieces
And you holdin' me and sayin' you were wrong
Well, I'm tired of second chances, and these sad ass circumstances
He's your problem, good luck keepin' him home
Oh Jolene, you can have him 'cause he don't mean much to me
Well, I cried so much 'til rivers turned to seas
Oh Jolene, when you think that he's in love, he'll surely leave
Like he did me
You can have him, Jolene
Well, I fixed my crown from leanin'
And those weddin' bells stopped ringin'
I took my keys and threw him out his door
Well, I found a man who loves me and he'll give me all I need
What woman could ask for anymore
Oh Jolene, you can have him 'cause he don't mean much to me
Well, I cried so much 'til rivers turned to seas
Oh Jolene, when you think that he's in love, he'll surely leave
Like he did me
You can have him, Jolene
Oh Jolene, you can have him 'cause he don't mean much to me
Well, I cried so much 'til rivers turned to seas
Oh Jolene, when you think that he's in love, he'll surely leave
Like he did me
You can have him, Jolene
You can have him, Jolene
You can have him, Jolene

Was about to quite this also!

I think certain women do make beeline for men, and manipulate (ie groom ) them, but the man has to be willing as well.

JustEatTheOneInTheBallPit · 15/05/2024 13:57

I honestly think it can be out of a man’s control sometimes. But only if her beauty is beyond compare, with flaming locks of auburn hair.

twoblackdogs · 15/05/2024 13:59

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 15/05/2024 13:53

Dolly, is that you?

Nope, but I'd like to be as rich as her. Unfortunately couldn't sing even if threatened to be shot. Oh well.

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twoblackdogs · 15/05/2024 14:01

JustEatTheOneInTheBallPit · 15/05/2024 13:57

I honestly think it can be out of a man’s control sometimes. But only if her beauty is beyond compare, with flaming locks of auburn hair.

Where you got that from? :)

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Screamingabdabz · 15/05/2024 14:05

These sorts of threads always slide to judging women ‘who go after’ married men. Our ingrained misogyny just can’t help burning women for the deeds of men.

A husband should not be putting his dick anywhere outside of his marriage full stop. There is ‘no but…’ or ‘although…’ It doesn’t matter if Kim Kardashian [or equivalent hot women] panted all over him, he should have self control and respect.

People blaming women, yes even those ‘man eater’ types although I’ve never met one in my life, are selling and perpetrating a misogynist lie.

twoblackdogs · 15/05/2024 14:06

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 15/05/2024 13:56

It's also not what one does to one's wife who has just had one's baby!

Also, it would be pretty hard for her to accidentally sleep with him, wouldn't it?

Edited

That's true, of course, both are to blame.
But in this case I think it is quite evil to go and seduce your friend's husband knowing the young family is in a bad place, seeing it as a good moment for it.

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allfurcoatnoknickers · 15/05/2024 14:08

I mean, I guess he could be taken if the OW used a weighted net and a bear trap, but I feel like that's not quite what your friend was gettting at.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 15/05/2024 14:10

twoblackdogs · 15/05/2024 14:06

That's true, of course, both are to blame.
But in this case I think it is quite evil to go and seduce your friend's husband knowing the young family is in a bad place, seeing it as a good moment for it.

I agree, but it is more evil to cheat on the woman who is in hospital as a direct result of having YOUR baby.

Whothewho · 15/05/2024 14:10

twoblackdogs · 15/05/2024 14:06

That's true, of course, both are to blame.
But in this case I think it is quite evil to go and seduce your friend's husband knowing the young family is in a bad place, seeing it as a good moment for it.

You can’t go and seduce your friends husband if he’s not a willing participant in the seduction though. And he’s the one who made the vows. If it’s a friend or relative of the wife they are partially to blame for the betrayal but your husband is the one who made vows to you. I’d like to say I’d never cheat on my husband but if I did it would be me to blame not the person I cheated with.

ToWonderWhyIBother · 15/05/2024 14:14

I wish someone would take mine (sometimes) 😄

Where would one find a woman like this to take my man ?

OneThreadOnly · 15/05/2024 14:16

I’ve had to play Jolene as a result of this thread!

My husband is convinced every man is trying to steal me away in much the same way as your friend. My reply is the same as yours, no one can steal someone that does not want to be stolen.

GingerPirate · 15/05/2024 16:48

studioussquirrel · 15/05/2024 12:10

I do sympathise a bit with your friend, @twoblackdogs

The fact is, there are women who will blatantly approach a man even when he is clearly in a relationship, especially if he is in a relationship with an attractive woman.

Yes.
And I never understood this and was embarrassed, since childhood.
These people were "taboo" for me.😁

5128gap · 15/05/2024 16:57

If a married man chooses to go off with another woman, it's because he is freely choosing what she's offering over his marriage. Whether he's chased her for it or sat there like the last turkey in the butchers on Christmas Eve while she fights you for him is entirely irrelevant. He wants her offer more than his wife's. If he didn't, he'd tell her no. And that's all there is to it.

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