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Would you find this amusing? Or would it irritate you?

69 replies

HelloDenise · 13/05/2024 06:36

On a discussion group I'm in one of the members, who's Scottish, writes in a dialect way. Like Burns, I guess. Every post has this in to some extent.

Would you find it amusing or annoying?

OP posts:
DoreenonTill8 · 13/05/2024 09:31

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 07:17

I'm Scottish and I find it annoying and cringe

Same, I often find it quite contrived,.our local snp person does this. Its like Oor Wullie or The Broons.
' Wull, ah haipe yeez ur aw dain weel'

DoreenonTill8 · 13/05/2024 09:31

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 07:17

I'm Scottish and I find it annoying and cringe

Same, I often find it quite contrived,.our local snp person does this. Its like Oor Wullie or The Broons.
' Wull, ah haipe yeez ur aw dain weel'

CoffeeCantata · 13/05/2024 09:34

Not annoying at all as long as I could understand it. Language is about communication, so if someone was deliberately making communication difficult I'd interpret that as a hostile act. But if it was just using the Scots dialect* then I'd find that fascinating - as some posters do, a bit, on MN.

*Correct me if I'm wrong but I think a dialect means a form of the same language which is understandable to non-dialect speakers, so it will have special words, possibly word order and idioms but will be generally mutually understandable. If you are interested in language, the more the merrier!

CoffeeCantata · 13/05/2024 09:37

I might qualify that by saying - it might be better as a spoken form, and not quite as understandable in written form. Hmmm....interesting. But, I guess it hugely depends on the reason for using it. If it IS just a way of being bloody-minded, aggressive and hostile, then it's annoying, yes.

tuvamoodyson · 13/05/2024 09:51

TiroirSousLeMiroir · 13/05/2024 08:30

Is fash to get annoyed? I'm guessing so. How interesting, that's the same word as in french, different spelling.

It means don’t worry/get annoyed/get upset. ‘Don’t get upset about it’

KreedKafer · 13/05/2024 09:54

I wouldn't find it either amusing or irritating. I'd simply see it as a Scottish person writing in Scots. Scots is a distinct form of English, and I wouldn't see writing in it as an affectation. Perfectly fine in a chatty setting like a Facebook group or a web forum. I'm English, but a lot of the Scottish people I know do this, and I just see it as the written equivalent of the way they switch between Scots and Standard English in different conversations really.

YoureStuckOnMeLikeATattoohoohoo · 13/05/2024 10:01

I write in Scots all the time. Not on here anymore since I got absolutely piled on one day, but text, emails, etc, I write how I speak.

There's words people use that I don't know/understand all the time, I just Google them. No different with this if you don't know a word.

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 11:34

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 13/05/2024 07:40

If someone is Scottish why should their default be English?

Edited

Because we speak English in Scotland in case you didn't know. Scots is technically a language I suppose (not really spoken now) but I suspect the person is writing in their regional dialect, which is different. That's what I find cringey.

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 13/05/2024 11:50

@ILikeItWhatIsIt and others

Scots isn't a dialect. It's a recognised language.

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 12:13

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 13/05/2024 11:50

@ILikeItWhatIsIt and others

Scots isn't a dialect. It's a recognised language.

Where did I say it was a dialect? I said the person was likely writing in regional dialect. I think it's highly unlikely they were writing in the Scots language.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 13/05/2024 13:10

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 11:34

Because we speak English in Scotland in case you didn't know. Scots is technically a language I suppose (not really spoken now) but I suspect the person is writing in their regional dialect, which is different. That's what I find cringey.

Of course I know that people speak English in Scotland, but that doesn't explain why it's cringey to also speak Scots.

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 15:42

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 13/05/2024 13:10

Of course I know that people speak English in Scotland, but that doesn't explain why it's cringey to also speak Scots.

Jesus Christ, are you being deliberately obtuse?
The person in the OP is not SPEAKING it, they are writing it in a forum where the majority are not Scottish.

I said I suspect the person is using regional dialect, NOT Scots

I find that cringey. I'm answering the question in the OP, ok?

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 13/05/2024 16:20

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 15:42

Jesus Christ, are you being deliberately obtuse?
The person in the OP is not SPEAKING it, they are writing it in a forum where the majority are not Scottish.

I said I suspect the person is using regional dialect, NOT Scots

I find that cringey. I'm answering the question in the OP, ok?

No, not ok.
It's not 'cringey' to write or speak a dialect of Scots.
Still not sure your logic for concluding that it is.

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 19:12

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 13/05/2024 16:20

No, not ok.
It's not 'cringey' to write or speak a dialect of Scots.
Still not sure your logic for concluding that it is.

Yes, imo it is. You're clearly very easily triggered by opinions that are different to yours. Maybe you need a break from the internet.

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 13/05/2024 19:40

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 19:12

Yes, imo it is. You're clearly very easily triggered by opinions that are different to yours. Maybe you need a break from the internet.

[edited as now read this PP's posts, and they say they are Scottish, so they will know about Scots, but I maintain it is ignorant to criticise someone else's cultural choice!]

I'm not 'triggered', I'm just stating that you are expressing an ignorant opinion.

LakieLady · 13/05/2024 19:46

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 13/05/2024 07:15

Naw, it widnae bother me wan wee bit. Whey shud it?

Yes, I'm clearly Scottish, but I'm all for keeping languages and dialect alive. The only caveat is that the person should be willing to explain any words that others are not familiar with.

It wouldn't bother me either. I think it's important to hang on to our dialects and regional variations in speech.

I've always lived in the SE, so Scots dialect is pretty unfamiliar. I find it easier to read if I "hear" the words in my head as I read. It makes reading a little slower, but it really helps with understanding.

MsLuxLisbon · 13/05/2024 19:47

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 07:17

I'm Scottish and I find it annoying and cringe

Same. It just comes across as try hard.

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 13/05/2024 19:48

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 13/05/2024 19:40

[edited as now read this PP's posts, and they say they are Scottish, so they will know about Scots, but I maintain it is ignorant to criticise someone else's cultural choice!]

I'm not 'triggered', I'm just stating that you are expressing an ignorant opinion.

Edited

And I'm stating that I'm not

MargaretThursday · 13/05/2024 20:01

I think if they normally speak like that, and people generally can understand, then what's the problem?

If they don't speak like that, then I think I'd see it as what my granny would have called "affected". If people can't understand, then it's their problem really, as surely then people just won't respond to them.
But if, for example, you had someone who was Italian in the group, would you find it okay if they wrote in Italian? You could put it through google translate, but I suspect most of the time, I wouldn't get round to it. I'd either work it out from responses, or ignore it. So I'd think from their side they'd be better not to do it.

I wouldn't find it amusing, but I don't think I'd find it irritating either unless it started being a cosy clique of those who wrote like that and found it terribly funny against those who didn't. But that would be nasty however the clique was formed, nothing about languages.

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