U.K. Eurovision entry! A lot of pearl clutching

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The outrage and comments I have seen about Olly Alexander’s performance is baffling to be honest. So much pearl clutching! Eurovision has always been completely camp and outrageous and yet suddenly he has been portrayed as some kind of disgrace and not representative of the UKs ‘values’ (what the fuck does that mean anyway?)

I like the song, I have seen him perform live at Glastonbury with years and years, he’s good live. Yes he’s openly gay - so what? Surely UK values should be based around tolerance and acceptance and not hysteria because his performance is considered risqué. Would it be considered the same if it was a load of half naked female dancers?

I am heterosexual but not offended by it - it’s just a performance - I hope he wins as he’s a nice guy!

So much pearl clutching!

It's homophobic to dislike ott gay stereotypes? I have several gay friends who are offended by it too. It's offensive to equate all gay people with this parody. Marco Mengoni managed to be flamboyant and tasteful. It's not difficult.

I like Olly Alexander. The song is ok. The staging is awful and inappropriate. Wouldn't make any difference if they were all female or a mixture of both.

It certainly isn’t family viewing outside of the Malmö Arena either, with snipers on the roof and just general hate. The lovely food truck outside had to close down because people threatened to kill the owner. Will be nice when it’s all over actually.

eurovision is where music goes to die

Yes me too, and Caroline Aherne. More of a shock because I don't think.anyone knew they were ill xx

Nothing outlandish or camp about the Bucks Fizz ladies doing a spin and having their skirts ripped off and flashing their knickers? Sure.

I can't believe someone would seriously write this comment and think it's an acceptable thing to say. Would you rather POC weren't shown on the tv again?

Talentless performance trying to hide it's awfulness by claiming to be edgy or pearl clutching.

@LakieLady 'I'm so ancient that I can remember people complaining about Tom Jones being indecently sexual when he first appeared on tv.'

I was just too young to be aware of this aspect of Tom Jones at the time, but I recently saw an old video of him singing & Oh. My. Word!😜

They went from long skirts to shorter skirts.

Well I’m only in my early 50s, and Bucks Fizz was definitely a camp performance. And that was obvious to me and my friends in the 80’s. Eurovision has been camp for at least 40 years, and probably longer!

@Cluelessaf you're right they did. While also flashing their matching knickers...

I first became aware of Eurovision with Sandie Shaw, Lulu, Dana, etc. winning. No, it wasn't camp in those days.

Sorry, didn’t rtft. However, your timeline for goodness sake.

The Eurovision Song Contest has been around for nearly 70 years, homosexuality has been decriminalised for nearly 60 of those. That’s the vast majority of years It’s been going. The ironic camp following has only really been since the 90s.

Nonsense. Eurovision doesn’t represent all sections of the population anymore now than it did back in the day. A different section to then may be, but not all.

Two of my kids are gay and they think this is performative bs but not as bad as Sam Smiths efforts. They also feel totally accepted and have no issue with people disliking shit like this.

Whatever the outcome of the event, I very much doubt that Israel will take it as either an endorsement or criticism of the war in Gaza.

Homosexuality wasn't decriminalised in the whole of Britain in the 60's. It wasn't until the 80's in Scotland and Ireland. It didnt apply to anyone in the navy or armed forces for another And it was introduced with a whole host of 'rules'. The age of consent was also 5 years higher than for hetro relationships. To keep banging on about how 'being gay was decriminalised in the 60's' is completely disingenuous to how society still saw gay people, of both sexes, in those days. It was a good 20-30 years before society became more tolerable.
'Male rape' was not considered to exist until the 90's. The age of consent wasn't bought in line with hetrosexual couples until 2000. The vast majority of the 1967 Sexual Offences act was rewritten in 2003 because of how outdated it was. It wasn't all sunshine and lovely acceptance as soon as the bill came out in the 60's.

Sorry to day or, but the 90s is still a very long time ago. Things moved on and now they are regressing.

Eurovision has a lot more problems than this...this year. They have just disqualified the Netherlands act (one of the favs to win) and at the dress rehearsal 3 acts didn't perform....Ireland was one.....seems a bit of a mess.

I’m sorry but was had simulating sex on stage got to do with the song or Eurovision. It’s just not needed and it’s a family show. I don’t care what sex he or annyone else is attracted to but the stage act is just not needed or warranted in my view. The song is ok but it’s not going to win Eurovision is now a political stage.

I like Ollie Alexander, I think he’s a talented musician, and I absolutely loved “It’s A Sin”, best TV I’ve seen in years. His Eurovision song is nice enough, but the video is basically soft gay porn. I’m just a bit sick of it all really. Some people are gay. Big deal. Why do they have to be so OTT about it.

Modern Eurovision is crap. It’s basically all about who can shock the most. It’s only a matter of time before someone has live gay sex on stage and calls it art, and they’ll probably win!

The irony is that it’s the ‘pearl clutchers’ who are actually ( probably unwillingly) subsidising Eurovision, because they are the only sector of society who still pay the BBC license fee.

Its totally wrong but your first reaction is to state its a problem if she wins?

I'm with @alittleprivacy - nothing new about camp, the overt sexualisation is more recent in Eurovision specifically which used to aim more for the children's tv slot.

Alexander's prodigious talent deserves better than recreating a stereotype of a 1980s bath house and many of the female dancers bump and grind routines look like dated rehashes of the 1980s routines. It all seems a bit tedious and passe and I do roll my eyes and note that they predominate the weaker songs - its worth listening to the songs in isolation.

Madonna was a star before she released Sex, she didn't make the mistake of thinking Sex and its associated routines would make her a star, especially without great songs.

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