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To think that the people traffickers will just start to cross the channel straight to Irish shores?

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/05/2024 11:04

I’m reading the news this morning in regard to the Irish refugee situation and the tents popping up and being cleared.

I initially thought the the Rwanda was a bonkers idea, but it’s obvious now the idea was to be a deterrent and not really an actionable thing. Are we potentially going to see the people traffickers bypassing Dover and heading straight to Irish shores? Thats going to cause a HUGE political headache, particularly when tensions between England and Ireland are high anyway.

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Coldupnorth87 · 10/05/2024 11:06

Too far, boats would be too expensive.

GladAllOver · 10/05/2024 11:08

Never. It gets very rough out there.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/05/2024 11:08

Coldupnorth87 · 10/05/2024 11:06

Too far, boats would be too expensive.

I wondered that. So potentially a migratory route that could move through England to Scotland, Wales and Ireland that don’t have the same immigration policy.

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AlltheFs · 10/05/2024 11:09

Nothing will put off the smugglers- they will keep finding new ways as long as the demand is there.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/05/2024 11:12

Organised crime is making a fortune off the back of people trafficking across the globe. It’s going to be a massive political hot potato as countries fight to absolve themselves of responsibility.

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Elebag · 10/05/2024 11:13

I think it's too far. They probably won't want to risk a certain death route. Word would get out.
The channel is easier.

Elebag · 10/05/2024 11:14

As in, the smugglers don't care who dies but there won't be as much custom for a longer route.

CasperGutman · 10/05/2024 11:24

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/05/2024 11:08

I wondered that. So potentially a migratory route that could move through England to Scotland, Wales and Ireland that don’t have the same immigration policy.

Edited

Erm. Wales and Scotland (and Northern Ireland) absolutely do have the same immigration policies as England. In fact, none of Wales, Scotland, NI or England has any immigration policy at all. Immigration and nationality are reserved within the exclusive competence of the UK government.

See Guidance on devolution - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Guidance on devolution

Advice for civil servants and policymakers on taking account of devolution when working on policies and managing services.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/guidance-on-devolution#devolved-responsibilities

30percent · 10/05/2024 11:27

Geographically they would have a lot further to go and the sea is a lot rougher as you go closer to the Atlantic.

GasPanic · 10/05/2024 11:28

I think you need to look at a map.

To get from France to Ireland directly is probably 10x the Dover Calais distance.

The shortest distance between England and Ireland is probably at least 2x the distance from Dover to Calais.

I am not sure whether there is passport control on ferries from England to Ireland or Northern Ireland. If there is not, it would make far more sense just to cross at Dover and then go through on a ferry.

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