It's more demotivating to be told a payrise is coming later than not to be told about it at all

[Shinygreen]

Despite the financial year starting last month, after many people enquired about payrises, all teams in the business have been told there will be payrises later in the year - by Christmas - but not yet.

I'm well overdue a rise. I'm not paid the going rate.

Since then I personally feel less motivated and more negative and I think I'm seeing that in other people. I feel like it would have been better for morale if they had said nothing.

Find another job or suck it up and leave your negativity at home.
If you feel you are not paid the 'going rate' go to hr

The reason they have told you Christmas, is to stop people leaving because they think a pay rise will never happen…

But! I would speak to your manager and explain that you feel you are overdue a rise, give some good reasons why your role should get X, and say you think a delay to Christmas is too long. Push back, basically.

They might give you one if they get the vibe you might leave otherwise.

HR have nothing to do with pay.

If I'm negative, that's on the people at the top. I asked about raises and was firmly told no one will get them sooner. That's a blanket policy and they aren't interested in considering individual cases.

I'm talking to other employers so am prepared to vote with my feet.

When was your last pay rise? It's quite standard in the public sector for announcements to be made early summer and implemented later in autumn (backdated). We know where we stand at least. What usually happens for you? Is there a set time of year? Is it every year? Is it backdated to the start of the financial year? You need to understand what's normal for your organisation.

As with anything in life, if you don’t like the situation either influence change or leave it and find a new environment.

This is private sector and I've never worked anywhere that functions in the same way as the public sector regarding pay. We don't have defined bands or processes.

I'm only aware of what's happened for me and my team and team changes mean the only salaries I known the details of have been for new recruits or promotions or those being told no raise just yet.

I've been there 2.5 years and never had any kind of payrise, including COL.

Ok, so if there aren't any across the board pay rises to be routinely relied upon, have you ever tried raising it at your end of year conversations?

Yes, it is. Because they are lying to your face and nobody likes that.

Sounds like they are stringing you along; by Christmas you'd have been without a pay rise for 3 years. Given inflation has been at 11% at one point during that period, you're going backwards.

I'd continue those conversations with external parties if I were you.