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Drivers have no patience towards learner drivers

43 replies

notedbiscuits · 09/05/2024 16:57

Don’t they remember when they were 17, 18, 19 or whenever they learned to drive?

I remember myself when learning to drive in 1999/2000 that had some impatient drivers scaring the crap out on me.

Seen drivers beeping horn, flashing lights when learner driver stalls etc. Then overtaking them in dangerous situations.

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DrCoconut · 09/05/2024 18:39

I had to do a real emergency stop during my test as some nobhead decided to pull out in front of me at a roundabout (my right of way). I passed the test too. If I see a car with L plates and a person in a high vis in the front seat i immediately think possible driving test and do everything I can within reason not to spook them.

Mcvitieschoccybiscuit · 09/05/2024 18:42

Some drivers have no patience for any drivers let alone learner drivers. YANBU but at least the learners are getting a taste of what absolute tits are on the road with an experienced, calm instructor by their side who will coach them how to handle it.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 09/05/2024 18:46

I always try to stay back from leaners. I remember how stressful it was trying to learn with someone driving up my arse... The worst was the accident I had one on my later lessons. Some tit decided to overtake me as I was turning right! 100% his fault but still unpleasant.

Recently, I was two cars behind a learner and the person in front of me was tailgating them. We came to a roundabout and he tried to be clever by going into the right hand land, rather than the left, to go straight over. He didn't account for the fact that the right hand exit was blocked and he couldn't cut back in and ended up about six cars back.

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 09/05/2024 18:53

I think patience and kindness is in short supply. I put it down to everyone being more stressed overall, I am trying hard not to be impatient about other people being impatient!!

transformandriseup · 09/05/2024 18:57

Some drivers have no patience for any drivers let alone learner drivers.

Definitely, I feel that a lot of drivers have lost all sense of patience this year.

sadie93 · 09/05/2024 18:57

I learned to drive last year and was regularly beeped and bullied on the road, usually when I wasn't even doing anything wrong! People would drive SO close behind me all the time.

Since I passed my test, I haven't been beeped once, even when I HAVE made stalled or been slow etc and expected a beep lol.

agncndmkd128494 · 09/05/2024 19:08

I think a lot of drivers have no patience anymore. I was stuck in a jam at the weekend for about 10 minutes all because a driver was too impatient to give way to a lorry meaning they got stuck with not enough space to pass eachother!
I just don't get it

Pantodame86 · 09/05/2024 19:59

I’m currently learning, I’m in my late 30s and really REALLY regretting not doing this 20 years ago I know I wouldn’t have cared what other road users thought of me back then but I do now and some of them are horrible.
thankfully I take my lessons midweek through the day when it’s generally quieter but I still get impatient knob heads. My last lesson I actually had a VW golf full of teens purposely tail me for about 4 miles trying throw me off my stride, then they nearly ran a pedestrian over when trying to overtake me cause I’d stopped to give way to them crossing at a junction. It’s really hard to learn to drive and take on board everything when you have a million and one other things going on in your life too.
my instructor however will not take me on roads he doesn’t think I can handle but it is hard not to worry that your getting in the way of other road users

ClonedSquare · 09/05/2024 20:03

It's a real problem and it's so awful. I learned to drive last year and the amount of aggression, bullying and dangerous behaviour directed towards me was insane. I feel at least once every lesson my instructor was having to reassure me I'd done nothing wrong after being beeped at randomly or intimidated at roundabouts. A car even tried to overtake me at traffic lights literally the second it went green and nearly caused a major accident!

I was learning in my husband's car and the second I passed my test and took the L plates off, I never had another episode of bullying or aggressive behaviour from another driver. On one occasion he forgot to take the L plates off before driving himself and he came home astounded at how differently he'd been treated.

Lannielou · 09/05/2024 20:06

Totally agree. Currently going out with my daughter. She is growing in confidence and zips along. Invariably though she isn't always quick at roundabouts or junctions. The number of people who beep at her or overtake dangerously just astounds me. Everyone is in such a rush now

OhmygodDont · 09/05/2024 20:08

I don’t drive. My dh does but honestly the 30 bloody learner drivers I get practising parking over my fucking dropped kerb daily piss me right fucking off.

When I did bother to do a few lessons years ago my instructor would never use a dropped kerb as the place to practice yes I get 30 upwards per fucking day and yes I’ve counted on a boring af day.

Elebag · 09/05/2024 20:15

Yanbu. DS stalled at roundabout traffic lights last week and a stupid woman (in a nurses uniform FGS!) started flicking V's at him and honking. I have it all on dashcam.

Merryoldgoat · 09/05/2024 20:19

PineappleBanana · 09/05/2024 17:00

I try to be kind to learners, but recently have noticed instructors taking them on 60mph roads when they are only capable/confident to do 30 (max). WHY?! There are loads of other slower roads. My instructor would never have let me hold up traffic (and I passed very quickly). Drives me mad.

(My own daughter is learning on private roads at 13 so that she spends as little time as possible pootling when she is 17 and gets to go on public roads.)

I was going to write this.

I have to use a 60mph road daily and regularly encounter learners who are doing 30.

My instructor would never have allowed that.

I do try to be patient though and wouldn’t be aggressive (to anyone).

ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs · 09/05/2024 20:23

I am always patient with learners, even though it can be frustrating at times. Nothing to be gained by flustering them further.

Drivers who are NOT learners, but seem unable to drive, on the other hand.....they test my patience severely!

Fizzib · 09/05/2024 20:32

I read somewhere - maybe Reddit- , that an experienced driver was driving and hadn’t taken their L plates off , their learner driver child wasn’t driving at that time ( they had swapped seats on their way somewhere ) but yet people’s attitude towards the experienced driver really changed for the worse - drivers being aggressive , shouting abuse , tailgating etc.

Basically they just saw the L plates and assumed she/he was a learner driving and therefore was driving badly or deserving of being subjected to aggressive driving.

Obviously nothing had changed about this experienced drivers driving , so there was no reason for other road users to be like that, it was simply people’s preconceptions at play on seeing the L plate. They only had this experience with the L plates displayed!

Maray1967 · 09/05/2024 20:34

Sirzy · 09/05/2024 17:37

I always leave a bigger gap behind a learner. If the impatient drivers behind me want to tailgate me they can but I’m not getting too close to a learner.

Yes, I do this as well- leave a decent gap to shield the learner and force the idiots behind me to tailgate me, as I quite enjoy annoying them.

OneTC · 09/05/2024 20:47

Maray1967 · 09/05/2024 20:34

Yes, I do this as well- leave a decent gap to shield the learner and force the idiots behind me to tailgate me, as I quite enjoy annoying them.

Love putting people on go-slow 😅

tridento · 09/05/2024 20:47

fieldsofbutterflies · 09/05/2024 17:19

That may be true @LessOfMe99 but they shouldn't be on those roads if they're not capable of maintaining a safe speed.

When I was learning to drive I spent a good few weeks on industrial and housing estates at 20-30mph so I could get to grips with controls etc. before moving onto faster roads. There's no way I'd have been allowed to drive at 20mph in a 40 or even a 30 (unless there was no choice due to other traffic).

None of what you say excuses rude aggressive or hostile behaviour towards the learner though does it. I fear from your response that you are one of the culprits

If you have problem, take note if the company and contact them. Don't take out your juvenile rage at an innocent learner who is just driving where the instructor tells them to drive.

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