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Nevergoodenoughforthem · 09/05/2024 14:55

My DD has just turned 11 years old. She has epilepsy and has been medicated for a number of years. Has regular appointments with her consultant and is doing well.

I order her medication via my online GP portal, the same as my other DC who are slightly older.

When she turned 11 proxy access was removed so I can no longer order her medication via our GP. The only option is via the pharmacy with a slip of paper. They then send that to her GP who signs it off and returns it back to the pharmacy. I have to allow at least 10 working days due to supply issues.

The only way to resume normal order is to have a face to face appointment with the GP for her to be assessed under the Gillik competency test. To be clear, she is 11 years old and given that she is on long term medical care, doesn’t actually fall into the category of needing this test in order for my to have proxy access however our GP is refusing to move forward without an appointment.

It’s utterly ridiculous in these circumstances. I’ve raised the matter with PALs who are seriously concerned about the amount of GP appointments are going to be used unnecessarily. Each practice could have literally hundreds of 11 year olds suddenly being told they need to be assessed incorrectly.

So question is, how far reaching is this? Is it actually a primary care scandal or is my GP practice just misinterpreting the guidelines, in which case what on earth should I do (bar take my DD out of school for an unnecessary appointment- we have enough medical appointments).

Also, my other DD is a year old and didn’t have to do any test (and I still have proxy access to order her medication).

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Wimpod · 09/05/2024 15:42

Are any of you in Scotland by any chance?

I had this issue with my son when he turned 12, he hadn't had a repeat prescription before and they wouldn't hand over the code to set up his online account without his permission. DH had to take him to the surgery in person to get the printout. 🤷

Nevergoodenoughforthem · 09/05/2024 15:47

We’re in England @Wimpod so not just in Scotland but it sounds as though it has wider implications for you.

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Lougle · 09/05/2024 15:48

olympicsrock · 09/05/2024 15:40

If she lacks competence you retain automatic proxy rights.
If she has capacity ( which most 11 years old would FOR THIS DECISION) then she can give or refuse you proxy access.
Just do it … you will need to do this at some point in the next couple of years anyway.

That's not how it's being interpreted at many surgeries. DD3 (15) went to the GP, filled in a form, handed over her passport, then heard nothing. When I asked about it some time later, they said that 11-16s weren't allowed any online access at all.

Hoardasurass · 09/05/2024 16:04

@Nevergoodenoughforthem I can't say about anywhere other than Scotland but here it's a governmental push to separate parents from their children as the SNP/ Stergeon knows best (yes I know that she's not officially in charge anymore). They started it with the named person bill (high crt rulled that it interfered with parental rights and family life so scrapped it) and has moved to measures such as gillikic competence etc
Basically we have a very fucked up system which says that noone under 12 knows the difference between right and wrong so are not culpable for there crimes, can't be tried in a crt for a crime under 16 (its a children panel instead) and for a 16 - 18 year old to be tried the prosecutor needs permission from the chief justice (scot gov officer) to take a case forward otherwise they get a diversion from prosecution (even in rape cases) and anyone under 25 must be given an extra lenient sentence as their brain hasn't fully developed. Yet are considered absolutely fine to make all medical decisions at age 12 and under the now blocked GRR bill could change sex at 16 (with certain green MSPs saying it should be from 8), oh yes and they can vote from age 16. It's ideology not science.

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