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To expect fat nurses to have some insight?.

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Vikingess · 07/05/2024 21:26

Just had a routine health check today at my GP surgery. Two nurses - both considerably overweight - dispensing advice on diet. I
am not overweight -AIBU to expect health professionals to demonstrate the the standards they recommended or at least admit to falling short.

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BeretRaspberry · 08/05/2024 21:49

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 21:48

Exactly. I’d have thought the mind of crazy, stressful hectic shifts in a busy hospital would more tend to cause weight loss than gain.

You’d have thought wrong then. Again.

Pootle23 · 08/05/2024 21:51

I’m assuming you are perfect in everything, especially related to your job. It must be wonderful being so amazing, why even bother with a routine health check, you obviously know it all already!

To be honest you sound like a patronising idiot.

They give out the official guidelines because they have to, end of.

SmileyClare · 08/05/2024 21:54

It’s worth noting that tiredness and stress cause weight gain.

Stress can impact thyroid (hormone) function causing weight gain despite efforts to maintain a healthy BMI.

A continual lack of sleep also triggers an innate human response to consume fast releasing sugar from foods as a survival mechanism.

A person working long unsociable hours in a stressful job is therefore at much higher risk of weight gain despite their efforts to be healthy.

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 21:57

BeretRaspberry · 08/05/2024 21:49

Oh FFS. You do realise that for most ME patients overexercising can mean getting out of bed or moving around their own home. And that it’s difficult to know what your energy limitations are because they fluctuate so much. Most people with ME deteriorate over time because they think they can do more than is good for their body. And most people with ME that I know of (and I know many) cannot do any form of exercise without suffering repercussions.

Again, you’re widely off the mark and don’t seem to understand that just because you can do something doesn’t mean others can.

Also:

https://meassociation.org.uk/2024/02/new-scientist-on-the-use-of-exercise-therapy-for-long-covid/

Yes, I’m aware of all of this and I’ve experienced it myself.

The link refers to exercise programmes beloved of doctors but discredited (like GET) partly because they tend to be too inflexible for fluctations and used inappropriately. But there’s nothing wrong with encouraging LC/CFS patients to try out different forms of gentle exercise to see what benefits them.

RafaFan · 08/05/2024 22:00

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 21:48

Exactly. I’d have thought the mind of crazy, stressful hectic shifts in a busy hospital would more tend to cause weight loss than gain.

I didn't finish that thought, because that isn't the point I was intending to make. I know from personal experience that being ravenous and knackered are not circumstances in which healthy food choices are made. I'm fortunate not to be in a profession where I find myself in those circumstances frequently.

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 22:01

BeretRaspberry · 08/05/2024 21:49

You’d have thought wrong then. Again.

The point is it does in some people. When I’m very busy and don’t get a chance to eat I lose rather than gain weight - the same is true for many people. It’s normal for people to lose weight at times of high stress - job, divorce, house move, bereavement etc.

BeretRaspberry · 08/05/2024 22:02

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 21:57

Yes, I’m aware of all of this and I’ve experienced it myself.

The link refers to exercise programmes beloved of doctors but discredited (like GET) partly because they tend to be too inflexible for fluctations and used inappropriately. But there’s nothing wrong with encouraging LC/CFS patients to try out different forms of gentle exercise to see what benefits them.

🙄

Riversideandrelax · 08/05/2024 22:03

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 21:09

I can well imagine how hectic and stressful it is. Surely the obvious consequence is weight loss rather than gain?

Not if you're taking a tonne of meds for your mental health!

WhycantIkeepthisbloodyplantalive · 08/05/2024 22:07

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 08:04

I think it’s a fair point that if medical professionals are dispensing advice they don’t or can’t follow that raises questions whether the advice is actually effective.

Well it doesn't really.
Police officers for example, commit crime but advocate the law. Does it suddenly mean that their advice to abide by the law becomes inaffective/ bad advice because they don't subscribe to the same advice? Of course it doesn't, It just means for whatever reason that person is not making the best choices for themselves on an individual level.

This thread is full of very uneducated opinions. Food illicits similar actions in the brain as Cocaine. I don't think it would be unreasonable to take a stab in the dark and presume you are dealing with a form of addiction/disordered eating when somebody is severely over weight. It's not just a case of cutting down on calories and eating the right food, they have an entire life and mindset to reform, losing weight would be the easy part.

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 22:12

Riversideandrelax · 08/05/2024 22:03

Not if you're taking a tonne of meds for your mental health!

Which is not the majority. Anyway, I’m off to bed.

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 08/05/2024 22:12

I still don’t get all the excuses. You can be tired, run off your feet, stressed, no healthy food available, not able to exercise etc etc but you CAN choose a healthier option. It takes the same time to eat a banana as it does to eat a bar of chocolate. You CHOOSE To eat the chocolate. Too tired to make food when you go home so go to McDonalds, keep your fridge stocked with healthy ready meals which take 5 mins in the microwave which actually takes less time than going through the drive thru. It’s the excuses, so many excuses. ANY eating choice you make can be a healthy one if you want it to be. It’s your CHOICE and yours alone what you put in your gob. I would actually applaud someone who said.. you know what, I don’t like healthy food so I choose not to eat it And that’s why I am fat. That’s nobody’s business but the lame excuses as to why you can’t do that are ridiculous. Some people on this thread are very honest about that and others blame everyone else except themselves. Binge eating disorders are real and many people have them but be honest about it.

Riversideandrelax · 08/05/2024 22:17

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 22:12

Which is not the majority. Anyway, I’m off to bed.

But is a lot of nurses.

BeretRaspberry · 08/05/2024 22:18

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 08/05/2024 22:12

I still don’t get all the excuses. You can be tired, run off your feet, stressed, no healthy food available, not able to exercise etc etc but you CAN choose a healthier option. It takes the same time to eat a banana as it does to eat a bar of chocolate. You CHOOSE To eat the chocolate. Too tired to make food when you go home so go to McDonalds, keep your fridge stocked with healthy ready meals which take 5 mins in the microwave which actually takes less time than going through the drive thru. It’s the excuses, so many excuses. ANY eating choice you make can be a healthy one if you want it to be. It’s your CHOICE and yours alone what you put in your gob. I would actually applaud someone who said.. you know what, I don’t like healthy food so I choose not to eat it And that’s why I am fat. That’s nobody’s business but the lame excuses as to why you can’t do that are ridiculous. Some people on this thread are very honest about that and others blame everyone else except themselves. Binge eating disorders are real and many people have them but be honest about it.

Binge eating disorders are real and many people have them but be honest about it.

You make BED sound like a choice. People DO admit to having EDs but they’re not believed.

Riversideandrelax · 08/05/2024 22:20

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 08/05/2024 22:12

I still don’t get all the excuses. You can be tired, run off your feet, stressed, no healthy food available, not able to exercise etc etc but you CAN choose a healthier option. It takes the same time to eat a banana as it does to eat a bar of chocolate. You CHOOSE To eat the chocolate. Too tired to make food when you go home so go to McDonalds, keep your fridge stocked with healthy ready meals which take 5 mins in the microwave which actually takes less time than going through the drive thru. It’s the excuses, so many excuses. ANY eating choice you make can be a healthy one if you want it to be. It’s your CHOICE and yours alone what you put in your gob. I would actually applaud someone who said.. you know what, I don’t like healthy food so I choose not to eat it And that’s why I am fat. That’s nobody’s business but the lame excuses as to why you can’t do that are ridiculous. Some people on this thread are very honest about that and others blame everyone else except themselves. Binge eating disorders are real and many people have them but be honest about it.

Sometimes you have no choice but to put medication in your 'gob' which causes weight gain.

BeretRaspberry · 08/05/2024 22:25

@Mirabai

To expect fat nurses to have some insight?.
TheMossEnthusiast · 08/05/2024 22:26

Yanbu I'd find it hard to look at them with a straight face

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 08/05/2024 22:35

Riversideandrelax · 08/05/2024 22:20

Sometimes you have no choice but to put medication in your 'gob' which causes weight gain.

vast majority of overweight people are not fat from taking meds.

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 08/05/2024 22:37

BeretRaspberry · 08/05/2024 22:18

Binge eating disorders are real and many people have them but be honest about it.

You make BED sound like a choice. People DO admit to having EDs but they’re not believed.

No, I am talking about excuses as to WHY they cannot choose something healthier. Stress, overwork, no time, nothing healthy on offer.. blah blah blah. No I have BED and I eat crap food because that’s what my brain wants… huge difference. One is honest and one is not.

HollyKnight · 08/05/2024 22:42

Jesus. If this thread is how slim nurses think, I would rather be seen by an overweight nurse.

Beezknees · 08/05/2024 22:45

Honestly I hope all the overweight nurses quit. Would love to see how you'd cope if that happened and you couldn't even get in to see one because there's not enough staff.

daliesque · 08/05/2024 22:45

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Meadowlands · 08/05/2024 22:50

@youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers
I totally agree with everything you say.
And it frustrates me when people say to me"it's ok for you , you're not overweight"as if it's all so easy. I could dive into a family sized bag of crisps and 6 bars of chocolate right now. It takes an almost overwhelming amount of will power not to. But the difference is, I don't.

daliesque · 08/05/2024 22:52

Why can’t you take in healthy food from home?

Probably because we are currently so busy and so short staffed that many nights I don't finisn work until 10pm and then either get home at 11pm and straight to bed in order to be on the unit again for my clinic starting at 8.30am so have no time to prepare this amazing lunch I'm supposed to take into work.

Or I just don't bother going home. Like tonight. On call. V busy. O point leaving the unit. So it's the vending machine which, btw, has no healthy options. Of course we should do something about that but it's low on the list of priorities after trying to get through another week.

TorturedPoetsDepartmentAnthology · 08/05/2024 22:55

Beezknees · 08/05/2024 22:45

Honestly I hope all the overweight nurses quit. Would love to see how you'd cope if that happened and you couldn't even get in to see one because there's not enough staff.

I hope they don’t but I do hope the judgmental people who have comments about the weight of lifestyle of any HCP gets put to the back of the queue. There are plenty of us who are very appreciative and really couldn’t give a tiny rats ass what their HCP looks like.

Devonbabs · 08/05/2024 23:06

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 22:01

The point is it does in some people. When I’m very busy and don’t get a chance to eat I lose rather than gain weight - the same is true for many people. It’s normal for people to lose weight at times of high stress - job, divorce, house move, bereavement etc.

It’s even more normal for them to gain weight- like everyone keeps saying different people react differently in different situations- this is what needs looking into, not blaming or shaming people because they react one way not another. I’m not sure what is so hard to understand. The causes of weight gain are complex and multifaceted. We haven’t even touched on complex area of the guy biome