To expect fat nurses to have some insight?.

[Vikingess]

Just had a routine health check today at my GP surgery. Two nurses - both considerably overweight - dispensing advice on diet. I
am not overweight -AIBU to expect health professionals to demonstrate the the standards they recommended or at least admit to falling short.

Who’s talking about losing weight though? The discussion is alternatives to junk.

Gosh it wasn't about you. I was wondering what canteens were open at 3am with all this lovely fresh healthy food and these fill to bursting with healthy option vending machines? Not any hospital I've ever worked in?
But you know I do actually know I'm responsible for my weight as does every other fat person I know (funnily enough fat doesn't mean stupid) and though there are many complex reasons I am obese I hate myself every day. I am smart successful driven and capable in every other aspect of my life, I despise myself for being fat. So if it was as fucking easy as "hehe just eat less and move more" do you not think I would have just done it.
Your nasty sly little patronising digs do absolutely nothing to help. As surely you must know. So I hope it makes you feel better about yourself to drag women doing hard vital jobs down.

'Gosh it wasn't about you. I was wondering what canteens were open at 3am with all this lovely fresh healthy food and these fill to bursting with healthy option vending machines? Not any hospital I've ever worked in?'

Packed meals and microwaves are your friend at 3am.

Actually, the majority of what you have pointed out are downright lies whos only purpose is to bolster your very misplaced sense of superiority. You don’t even want to understand the multifaceted reasons behind the obesity crisis because then you would have to admit you are just lucky. Whilst views similar to yours prevail there will be no solution found, but then you would probably lose the one thing which makes you feel superior to others. As I said, part of the problem because you have no interest at all in finding a solution

Competitive skinniness is very much ED territory.

Is the discussion about begrudging people or avoiding junk food?

You know my medical conditions which mean I actually can't do some of these things? It's not about owning it at all, I'm fat, in that but don't try telling me I can do things that even my specialist says are not possible for me at the moment.

I had to leave an area of nursing I loved because I CAN'T do certain things because of my health/disabilities. Your comments are a perfect example of why you shouldn't judge and make assumptions when you have no idea about the personal circumstances of others.

'Your nasty sly little patronising digs do absolutely nothing to help. As surely you must know. So I hope it makes you feel better about yourself to drag women doing hard vital jobs down.'

The pp wasn't been nasty or sly just pointing out options. The choice isn't a vending machine full of crisps or nothing. Take some responsibility and take in healthy food!

Thats nice for you. It was not the experience I had nursing my mother at home during the pandemic while trying to do my NHS job and take care of other family members. Not every nurse has the access you describe. But hey, you keep it up.

Well you asked me the question. The cafe was shut but the vending machines were working.

I’m sorry to hear how you feel about yourself. It’s sad that you see “nastiness” and “digs” where there are none.

I assume there was a reason they were giving dietary advice. And they well have some insight but why would they discuss that if you are not overweight??

I think you come across as very judgemental. Who knows why they are overweight? But nursing is a very stressful job and many mental health medication causes weight gain.

It’s like banging your head against a brick wall. But like I said previously, they’ve got their blinkers on and their superiority complex is obviously clouding their judgement.

What they’ll also fail to see is constant threads like this count as shaming, which has these negative effects.

Unfortunately this thread is full of people who can’t comprehend anything more than run around more eat less. It’s a mantra that makes them feel good about themselves.

Try explaining the real multifaceted reasons for the obesity crisis, suddenly the fact they are not obese is highlighted as more luck than any sense of superiority. They don’t want to listen to the effects trauma, hormones, stress, lack of sleep,adhd, autism, depression, medication, disease, anxiety etc etc can have, they would rather pin the whole thing on greed and laziness. It’s pathetic really. Best leave them yo their delusions and hope they never are afflicted by the multitude of reasons the eat less Tim around more mantra is disingenuous and actually downright dangerous,

I’m not actually making judgements. But there’s no medical condition that means you can’t eat healthy food, although there may be dietary restrictions. Equally a consultant would not say do no exercise at all because that’s not healthy for anyone. Even people with severe illness and disability can do gentle exercise - otherwise the body just gets weaker and more out of condition.

I have an AI illness so I know what it’s like dealing with restrictions on activities and jobs etc.

Have you read the last few posts? Apparently it's the government's fault for not preparing heslthy packed lunches for nhs shift workers and vending machines for having crisps as well as fruit. The constant not my fault mentality is staggering.

Or are you saying that doctors never need medical advice because they apparently know it all?

This is an interesting point actually. Specialists like me spend years and years honing our knowledge of a tiny field of medicine. I actually know a surgeon who only deals with pancreatic duct called the Ampulla of Vatar and cancers in that particular site. So many of us have this highly specialist knowledge which is amazing for our patients, but sometimes what people need is a generalist - someone to give them that lifestyle advice, someone who can understand how long term conditions can interact with each other. I'm not that person. My nurses aren't that person. A GP or a practice nurse are perfect for that.

@HappyReunion My obs guy walked up to where I was on the maternity ward and said "now, let's get her out by 8pm, I've a yacht club dinner to be getting to..."

When I went to my GP 2 wks later for my check up, I told this story to her and she immediately knew who my obs guy had been. Maybe my stories are just out of date. 🙁

My sister’s a nurse on a busy ward. I asked what breaks they got and this is her response. (She’s not yet fat).

We do get a break but it’s usually interrupted. Every department is different and there are days people don’t get a proper meal and sometimes just grab some biscuits and there’s some days you get time to sit down and have a sandwich, but I can gurantee the break is interrupted and if the emergency buzzer goes you get nothing and it’s straight back out 😂.

Oh yeah no wonder nurses end up putting weight on, you grab and go and live off easy food!

Some departments like clinics etc it will be, but wards definitely not, my friend didn’t get her break till 3:30 the other day from
7:30 as there was just nobody to take over from her we do try but some days it’s just impossible!

Sorry about your df .

Equally a consultant would not say do no exercise at all because that’s not healthy for anyone. Even people with severe illness and disability can do gentle exercise - otherwise the body just gets weaker and more out of condition.

I have ME/CFS and Fibro and I literally cannot do any exercise, even ‘gentle’. And yes my body IS getting weaker and more out of condition - which I hate and scares the hell out of me. Previously, I loved exercise. I walked a lot, I swam a mile most days, I ran, I played football. I’d give anything to get back there.

You still aren’t getting it are you? Maybe spend some more time reading informative books and articles rather than looking in the mirror. I’m
not sure why you aren’t more highly educated and take some responsibility for your own intellectual growth. If you did you would have much better capacity to think these things through and contribute to the solution rather than being part of the problem. It would only take a few hours of study each day.

What is your contribution to the solution - because you’re obviously not informed enough (pure laziness) to contribute to the solution and your vanity is leading you to want that sense of superiority

Possible trigger warning.

Clearly some people on this thread have never gone into work at 9am on one day, and still been there after 5pm the next day. Clearly some people on this thread have never gone dashing into work on zero notice on their day (or indeed night) off, because staffing has collapsed. Clearly some people on this thread have never been in a situation where they didn't even get access to water to drink or a chance to nip to the loo for 8 hours straight, because they were stuck trying to stabilise a desperately sick baby. Clearly some people on this thread have never got out of work in the early hours of the morning, having eaten nothing since lunchtime, and knowing you need to be back to do the ward round by 9. I admit at that point to praying McDonald's was still open, as I couldn't face trying to make food before falling into bed. Good job they were, as I got called back in an hour later, but at least I'd eaten.

Clearly some people on this thread don't work covering multiple clinical areas, where you may never see your locker again until you get to go home, and certainly don't have access to a fridge. I always have at least cereal bars in my locker as a back up, and have been known to send one of my DITs with the key to get me some, but they can't always be freed up. Clearly some people on this thread have never tried, and failed, to resuscitate a dead baby, but had to hold it together for another 24 hours at work, so stuffed their face with chocolate because it helps just a tiny bit. Clearly some people in this thread have no bloody clue. It must be nice to be them. But some of us can't be. Some of us are in the real world where horrible things happen to patients, and there aren't enough of us to try to help.

Well put! I suspect some people on this thread are struggling to think straight due to being so hungry.

People are so full of shit with their pronouncements.
I am in constant chronic severe pain. I can’t even sit for more than a few minutes let alone stand. I am housebound and have to spend most of my life on my bed trying to minimise pain.
I can’t cook anymore.
I am a lifelong vegetarian and then side effects from cancer treatment left me lactose intolerant and I can’t digest most vegetables.
Why not pop round with your clearly expert knowledge and point out to me how I can exercise and eat a healthy diet?

'What is your contribution to the solution - because you’re obviously not informed enough (pure laziness) to contribute to the solution and your vanity is leading you to want that sense of superiority'

Well, at the risk of sounding like a broken record <but you did ask> my solution is take some responsibility. For example the poor NHS staff wanging on about unhealthy vending machines take your own stuff in. Every clinical area has access to a staff area. I'm neither vain nor superior but keep insulting me if it makes you feel more of a victim.

Thank you. For everything you all do. Despite some of the responses on here, there are people who appreciate you and your colleagues.

My sister is pregnant and due in summer. She was contemplating starting her mat leave at a certain point but has now decided to bring it forward because she knows it will be difficult to have access to water and keep hydrated. That’s the reality of working in the NHS.