To expect the toilet in the park to be open?

[PassingStranger]

Lots of people in the park today as it's a Sunny Bank Holiday.
Picnics, walks, bike rides etc.
Council closed all the toilets how crazy?
Talk about not care about people?

Yes this works well in some areas (eg last time I was in Scotland there were public loos in the towns I visited, and they cost 20-30p to use at the time).

More public showers would be good too - leisure centres are often a good option for those, but of course they are not in every town and aren't always open.

I'm not disagreeing with you, it's a problem, I'm just amazed you can't see WHY they don't have them open. Because they cost money to run that the council doesn't have.

The cafe on the other hand makes money, which is why they do have it open.

Simple economics, do you not understand that?

Why are you angry at me? I’m not responsible for any of this. Yes councils should cut their cloth according to their finances, I never said otherwise. Go pick on someone else.

I mentioned my dad needing adult sanitary ware! Maybe you skipped a few posts in order to shout at me?

Just because I know the dire state of funding doesn’t mean I am glib or flippant or don’t care. I am stating facts. Also believe it or not, I am not responsible for running this country into the ground and am just as angry as anyone. Because I can express myself without being ranty doesn’t mean I don’t give a shit, but I also live in the real world.

@INeedToClingToSomething

17:23: My father has a medical need and because of a lack of public toilets has to wear adult sanitary wear in case he is caught short.

But he wouldn’t call any council unreasonable for not being able to afford to keep them open. Unfortunate, but not unreasonable.

You posted at 22:47… and I can’t time travel. Care to apologise?

We're paying the extra 10% and still don't have any public toilets at all, because of the corrupt Tory council who made such ridiculous financial decisions that the council went bankrupt.

YANBU at all. I was out with young DC yesterday and despite planning in toilet visits, naturally the 3yo needed the loo in the playground despite having been brought in the cafe half an hour before. I was so glad to find the ones in the park open, I don't think she would have made it to the nearest business and was debating whether to try or bring her for a bush wee.

Loos are essential.

But the extra 10% (22% where my parents live) is just running to stand still. It’s filling a deficit not new funds. It’s horrendous, I don’t disagree, but it’s not new money for new things, it’s to stop a complete collapse.

PS. @InATimeOfChimpanzeesIWasAMonkee Your username rocks, I can’t stop humming Loser now.

Arlanymor yes even with the extra and all the cuts it's not touching the sides of the debt. Forces of evil in a bozo nightmare, indeed 😀

Right?! I don’t disagree with you, I didn’t vote these idiots in, either at a local or national level! Makes me sick.

No. You made a later post. I responded to your earlier post. Have you ever used the internet before?

Go before you leave.

Most people are only in the park for a couple of hours.

Most kids go through a phase of wanting to use the toilet but when their parent(s) drag them to a toilet, they produce no or little wee. It’s some kind of attention seeking thing.

Most councils, including mine don’t have any public toilets (bar those 30p charging ones) as they were vandalised and used by druggies. Think some of the vandalism is caused by the druggies if they don’t get that ‘hit’ in time.

It's not only vandalism, it's the cost of keeping them open even when they're not being vandalised. Someone to maintain the plumbing, someone to clean them several times a day, it all adds up. So many councils are bankrupt.

Councils are only bankrupt through bad management, no private company would spend money like councils - need to save money, where to cut:

Social services - cut to apply pressure on government for more funding

Changing road layouts in town and city centres - spend money on that as no one is going suggest extra funding for that

Your post makes no sense linguistically and also bears no relation to the subject of the thread.

Yes I agree with this, I need the toilet about 10-15 or so times a day I am thankful there are toilets around but they are a privilege not a right

Go before i leave? A. I have IBS so a go a few times a day some days B. dont know when its going to happen as that is the nature of this affliction and C. cant shit to a timetable!!!

No private company has to provide statutory services which take money out of the council and dont bring anything in, you know those boring old inconvenient children on child protection plans, children needing foster homes, legal proceedings costing hundreds of thousands of pounds, SEN provision, elderly care and adult services, the list is endless

Councils are only bankrupt through bad management

So, nothing to do with the fact that the Government has cut over a billion pounds from my Council's budget since 2010 ?

According to the Local Government Association, by the 2024-25 financial year councils will have seen a 27% fall in spending poweron local services since 2010.

Whilst serving increasing population, and, as @soupfiend has said, still having to provide statutory services.

Being able to use a toilet isn't a priviledge. It is required so that people don't urinate and defecate in the street which could lead to deadly disease. The only reason councils get away with not providing them is because cafes and some shops provide them.

They didn't provide them even when they had the money. Vandalism is a problem but they can get around that by charging a small fee to use them.

Public toilets should be a priority. Councils waste ridiculous amounts of money on stupid solar powered signs that light up signs that say how many cyclists have used a road each day. Who the fuck cares? Those who cycle will still do so without these stupid costly light up signs. They are not a necessity but toilets are.

Crikey. I think people are far too forgiving on here. Of course being able to have a pee in a public space like a park is a basic human right.

And many people do “go” before they leave the house but have birth injuries or illnesses which means they need to go again pretty quickly. As do young kids. Not everyone is the same.

I know many councils are strapped for cash or bankrupt as austerity measures have been applied unevenly but there is also a great deal of misogyny embedded in council decision-making which results in issues affecting women and children being ranked at the bottom of the priority list.

If you needed some work doing to your home, you get a few quotes. Same with when. Car/home/travel/other insurances.

Not with some councils. They pay £m for contractors to do a mirage of work. Then wonder why some tasks are shoddy. It’s a bit like asking a driveway specialist to do tree surgeon work.