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Why are there so many overweight and obese British women?

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EvaHara · 06/05/2024 16:48

Genuine post and I promise I am not a weight troll. Recently I was on a cruise and couldn't help but notice that many other British women onboard - especially younger women - were considerably overweight or obese. Some were in fact huge and easily as big as some women I saw in the US when there a few years ago.

What has caused this rise in overweight people, particularly younger women? I don't remember there being this many overweight/obese people even 10 years ago.

I am not judging, just curious.

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EasternStandard · 07/05/2024 09:37

Mirabai · 07/05/2024 09:27

But then many people lost weight in lockdown as they had time to exercise. It’s not like we weren’t allowed out for a walk.

I had to exercise as a way to combat the stress but overall the trend was weight gain

It’s less about time, more about stress and reaction to the lockdowns which prompted unhealthier actions, including alcohol

I understand why, it was a horrendous time, but unfortunately it had that overall impact

Goldenbear · 07/05/2024 09:37

nothingsforgotten · 07/05/2024 09:30

Once again, where did I mention eating out? I am talking about the cost of food in supermarkets, and yet again I am telling you that it is generally much cheaper than what you would pay for the equivalent here. I also didn't say that everyone eats out of season food, but it is more available in the UK than in some other parts of the world. I have even read threads on MN about the high price of goods in this part of the world, and the lack of some foods all the year around. Why do you think I am lying?

This is what someone who had been living in the UK wrote when he arrived back here last year: "I just came back from UK and just wow food prices are insane here( in comparison)"

You seem to be lacking in comprehension skills tbh.

Your comprehension skills appear a bit lacking and your knowledge of British life seems to be fairly inaccurate!

I am also referring to shopping bills, I only mentioned eating out as you were massively implying with your patronising seasonal comments that Brits are completely out of touch with where food comes from, cooking and healthy living, in fact we are so ignorant that we believe food to be expensive when in fact it is ‘cheap’, I am stating that this is frankly rubbish and is just not the case.
Where did you live in the UK that was so cheap?

SallyWD · 07/05/2024 09:42

Lentilweaver · 07/05/2024 09:17

Personally speaking nearly all my medical conditions have disappeared after I got rid of my car and lost about a stone. And I wasn't obese.
Pre diabetes: gone
Back pain: gone
Knee pain: gone
Certain menopausal issues: reduced
Blood pressure: normal down from slightly high in the pandemic
General anxiety: improved

I realise I sound like a fitness bore. I dont talk about this in RL only here!

It was the same for my DP. He was only slightly overweight (BMI 27 and he has a lot of muscle) but his blood test results were very concerning. He lost weight and everything went back to normal. He also felt much better.

Singershevi · 07/05/2024 09:42

It’s definitely a problem now in lots of European countries. I was interested to read that Latvia has one of the highest obesity rates in Europe, and having visited Latvia it’s certainly obvious , perhaps in contrast to the other Baltic countries even.

Fatnold · 07/05/2024 09:43

Simple. People eat too many calories and have sedentary unfulfilling lives.

drusth · 07/05/2024 09:44

TitusMoan · 07/05/2024 09:23

At least what?

At least Google it!

Calliopespa · 07/05/2024 09:45

starringinyourbaddreams · 07/05/2024 08:49

There’s nothing feminist about obesity.
how exactly is women eating themselves into poor health feminist?

what exactly is feminist about women eating themselves into being unable to fully participate in life, spending their adult years in poor health and dying early from obesity related illness feminist?

it’s not all about looks you know. I’d rather be slim and unfeminist and not miss out on fun activities because I’m too ill/unfit to participate. There’s just nothing more sad than women eating themselves into another prison - one of their own adipose tissue. One slice of cake at a time.

Well that was why I said “ ironically.”

I also don’t think there is a direct link between feminist attitudes and obesity: no one as far as I know ever said to be a feminist you must be obese. But at a more subconscious level I do think women now feel less “ frightened” of not conforming to a sexual ideal.

Goldenbear · 07/05/2024 09:45

That’s very interesting and is reflection of the changes all over the world.

Livelovebehappy · 07/05/2024 09:46

Obesity is caused in the main by eating too much of the wrong food, and lack of exercise. There might be other stuff on the periphery like medical conditions, but the main cause is overeating and no exercise. Loads of cheap healthy stuff in supermarkets, so the argument that it’s more expensive to eat healthily is a null and void one. GYMs expensive? Go for a walk. Exercise at home in front of keep fit programmes on TV, of which there’s plenty. It’s an awful trait society currently has where they have to blame others for their crap situations, when they should be taking responsibility for their own self care. It’s not okay to celebrate ‘being happy in your own skin’ being fat - so many health issues on the back of being obese.

Littlestminnow · 07/05/2024 09:48

VibeOnWithMyGalPals · 07/05/2024 09:35

I’d love to see the statistics about obesity in other European countries, because we’ve travelled a lot around France, Spain and Italy over the last 10 years, and there are a lot of overweight locals.

I think it’s a bit of a myth that they aren’t. I think it’s a problem now in all developed countries.

Indeed. I have spent a lot of time in France over the last 30-40 years and the French outside the cities have ballooned.

Fatnold · 07/05/2024 09:49

Livelovebehappy · 07/05/2024 09:46

Obesity is caused in the main by eating too much of the wrong food, and lack of exercise. There might be other stuff on the periphery like medical conditions, but the main cause is overeating and no exercise. Loads of cheap healthy stuff in supermarkets, so the argument that it’s more expensive to eat healthily is a null and void one. GYMs expensive? Go for a walk. Exercise at home in front of keep fit programmes on TV, of which there’s plenty. It’s an awful trait society currently has where they have to blame others for their crap situations, when they should be taking responsibility for their own self care. It’s not okay to celebrate ‘being happy in your own skin’ being fat - so many health issues on the back of being obese.

Absolutely. 👍

Starlight330 · 07/05/2024 09:50

ClairemacL · 06/05/2024 16:54

“Body positivity”

Fat shaming is deplorable although this movement towards making people believe weight doesn't contribute to health problems, think they call it 'fat phobia' is just as deplorable. When you can't bend to tie shoe laces or climb stairs without practically expiring carrying so much weight, how can that be healthy 🤦‍♀️

Yuckyyuckyuckity · 07/05/2024 09:51

It's because they all follow the shocking diet advice on Mumsnet 😉

studioussquirrel · 07/05/2024 09:54

Fatnold · 07/05/2024 09:43

Simple. People eat too many calories and have sedentary unfulfilling lives.

Nailed it!

Needanewname42 · 07/05/2024 09:55

TroysMammy · 07/05/2024 08:36

Going on cruises and eating everything you can. I'm not in the obese category but for my height I am overweight. I've just started using Nutracheck and have quickly realised that my portion sizes are way too much and that is why I look like one of the Roly Polys.

I wonder how fat the Roly-Polys would look now?
And remember the Go Lighties, who used to do a sketch on Noel Edmunds program?

Those sorts of things would be classed as discriminatory now.

KellyMaureen · 07/05/2024 09:56

Rags like the Daily Mail feed into this by publicising for example Lizzo and how amazing she looks. I like Lizzo as a person and her music but she is not a healthy weight.

BigDahliaFan · 07/05/2024 09:59

Livelovebehappy · 07/05/2024 09:46

Obesity is caused in the main by eating too much of the wrong food, and lack of exercise. There might be other stuff on the periphery like medical conditions, but the main cause is overeating and no exercise. Loads of cheap healthy stuff in supermarkets, so the argument that it’s more expensive to eat healthily is a null and void one. GYMs expensive? Go for a walk. Exercise at home in front of keep fit programmes on TV, of which there’s plenty. It’s an awful trait society currently has where they have to blame others for their crap situations, when they should be taking responsibility for their own self care. It’s not okay to celebrate ‘being happy in your own skin’ being fat - so many health issues on the back of being obese.

Yep.

As a society we eat too much rubbish and don't move enough.

In the states it's worse as here at least in most areas there are public spaces likes parks etc that are safe to walk round (I know not all), in the states no bugger seems to walk.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 07/05/2024 10:01

Fatnold · 07/05/2024 09:43

Simple. People eat too many calories and have sedentary unfulfilling lives.

When you look at how many people drive everywhere including to the gym it’s an issue.

I walk a lot but I’m lucky I have the time to walk a lot.

I do see a lot of incredibly lazy people driving eg to a huge local park and then guzzling on food. The same park when I was younger if we were with a family friend who didn’t drive we simply walked the 15-20 minutes to get there (as 8 year olds) all carrying something and then ate.

Actually at that same park and god knows why they got rid of them, were huge adventure playgrounds. Spent hours in there.

Monstersunderthesea · 07/05/2024 10:01

Livelovebehappy · 07/05/2024 09:46

Obesity is caused in the main by eating too much of the wrong food, and lack of exercise. There might be other stuff on the periphery like medical conditions, but the main cause is overeating and no exercise. Loads of cheap healthy stuff in supermarkets, so the argument that it’s more expensive to eat healthily is a null and void one. GYMs expensive? Go for a walk. Exercise at home in front of keep fit programmes on TV, of which there’s plenty. It’s an awful trait society currently has where they have to blame others for their crap situations, when they should be taking responsibility for their own self care. It’s not okay to celebrate ‘being happy in your own skin’ being fat - so many health issues on the back of being obese.

I really don’t understand the idea that you have to go to a gym to do exercise. You’ll burn way more calories and get way more endorphins if you go for a run. Wind in your face makes you feel so much more alive. Couch25k. Parkrun. Equally walking. There are always people walking a parkrun. And yes you sometimes get kids (and grown men) Screaming comments at you, but guess what, you can actually survive that.

I have run (and walked) for nearly 50 years and never set foot in a gym. You couldn’t pay me to do so.

Goldenbear · 07/05/2024 10:01

Needanewname42 · 07/05/2024 09:55

I wonder how fat the Roly-Polys would look now?
And remember the Go Lighties, who used to do a sketch on Noel Edmunds program?

Those sorts of things would be classed as discriminatory now.

The who? “Roly-Polys’ , did they have their own show?

Soigneur · 07/05/2024 10:02

Littlestminnow · 07/05/2024 09:48

Indeed. I have spent a lot of time in France over the last 30-40 years and the French outside the cities have ballooned.

Yep, France is seeing exactly the same problem as people move towards more sedentary lifestyles, particularly outside of cities where there is no real active leisure culture. If you're, basically, a peasant who's forebears for hundreds of years have worked their arses off on the land in all weathers, and you have a nice sit-down job pushing buttons in a factory (to which you drive to and from) then this is bound to happen. There's not actually a great tradition of outdoor recreation among working class rural people in France (except for hunting) so if you don't work on the land anymore but are still eating like you do then its going to go wrong.

Of course there's always plenty of people even in impoverished rural locations who cycle, go on randonées, play football etc, but just like in the UK there are sizeable number who are very sedentary, who 30 years ago would have had no choice but to be active.

Calliopespa · 07/05/2024 10:02

Littlestminnow · 07/05/2024 09:48

Indeed. I have spent a lot of time in France over the last 30-40 years and the French outside the cities have ballooned.

I’m afraid I think the same. The French tend to use Paris as a reference point for so many things: fashion, appearance. Paris is not France.

Grammarnut · 07/05/2024 10:02

Beckknowsbest85 · 07/05/2024 06:27

I used to be 9 St and quite slim after being a fat kid. I worked hard and maintained a low weight for most of my adult life until... kids!

Since having them I am unable to shift the extra 3 st. I go to the gym frequently and eat smaller portions. I am finding it very hard.

Throw in now being peri menopausal. Hormones have a huge part to play in women's weight.

If anyone has the cure, I'd love to hear it!

Well, you could try going to a slimming group, where there is support and also the impetus of being weighed at each session. There is no judgement in these groups, but only help. I have found Slimming World good (there is a page on mumsnet) and also WW. They both give support online, recipes online (and you can buy cookery books - I have a cookery book habit!), talks at group meetings and online (podcasts), facebook, etc. contact between members of groups and group leaders. Alternates are 'by post' plans, though these are only targetted at the purchaser, whereas the group methods target the family, i.e. they are getting you to make family meals that are both nutritious and allow weight loss. Going to the gym without changing your diet (smaller portions doesn't quite hack it if the smaller portions are of fatty foods or fewer carbs without compensating for feeling hungry - you ought never to feel hungry on a diet) will not lose weight, though it will help maintain weight as well as being useful for healthy hearts etc.

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