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Why are there so many overweight and obese British women?

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EvaHara · 06/05/2024 16:48

Genuine post and I promise I am not a weight troll. Recently I was on a cruise and couldn't help but notice that many other British women onboard - especially younger women - were considerably overweight or obese. Some were in fact huge and easily as big as some women I saw in the US when there a few years ago.

What has caused this rise in overweight people, particularly younger women? I don't remember there being this many overweight/obese people even 10 years ago.

I am not judging, just curious.

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AloeVerity · 06/05/2024 22:19

People are lulled into a false sense of security. I’m the same size I was 25 years ago. Always stay the same, no idea why. Just bought some trousers in a size 6. Used to be a 10. Then an 8. The 6s of today are exact same size as a (very old) size 10 pair from years ago 🙄

Happyearlyretirement · 06/05/2024 22:19

I’m over the moon with op, I’m due to go on my first cruise and as a size 10 gym attendee I’m now delighted to hear I’m going to be the slimmest on the ship, pass me the chips please.🤣🤣

Monstersunderthesea · 06/05/2024 22:20

I go to the supermarket and walk past an aisle of offers and it is ALL biscuits / crisps / chocolate etc. I’m not a nanny state supporter but I can we please get rid of offers on junk food?

mollyfolk · 06/05/2024 22:20

I’n not judging at all. I’m overweight myself with the menopause. But I think it’s just the sheer amount of food available all the time. Sharing bags of sweets and crisps, snack food available everywhere. Lots of restaurants, takeaways ect…,

Food was a lot more basic just 20 years ago. You couldn’t buy a donut and a supersized milky coffee in the local shop / as a very small example. My whole childhood I ate 3 meals a day.

SocksAndTheCity · 06/05/2024 22:22

You sound lovely @Hartley99 . Why would this young women you're insulting give a tin shit what you think about the way they look, or anything else? Do you make crass assumptions about everybody based on their appearance?

My mother loves to comment on what other adults are eating whenever we go out for lunch, and look down her nose at anybody whose weight/appearance she deems unacceptable. I've pointed out that the people she comments on would likely rather be a bit fat then quite such a sour, nasty, judgemental bitch.

Engaea · 06/05/2024 22:22

Mctm · 06/05/2024 21:43

The wave of body positivity and a culture of acceptance of being overweight. We are also too afraid to offend. Other countries look very poorly at overweight people but in the UK we want to celebrate it.

That's really, really not why.

Blinky21 · 06/05/2024 22:22

Society normalising being unhealthily overweight

EBearhug · 06/05/2024 22:23

moonlitmaze · 06/05/2024 22:16

A lot left dead though and your post is fucking offensive.

And if they weren't dead, they were starving and mostly suffering diseases of malnutrition such as beriberi. WW2 Japanese POW camp diets do not count as healthy under any measure.

Thevelvelletes · 06/05/2024 22:23

Densol · 06/05/2024 16:55

Who actually fucking cares ?
Now pass me a biscuit

A biscuit no no ,the packet then were talking particularly if it Jaffa cakes.

KindaBinding81 · 06/05/2024 22:23

It is not the governments fault that people are fat

This!!

LauderSyme · 06/05/2024 22:25

AlcoholSwab · 06/05/2024 22:14

Smartphone dating culture explains why so many young women are out of shape.

Most of the men on apps like Tinder get no swipes and can't afford to be fussy.

Wow, I don't even know where to begin with this.

I suspect you'll be pleased that someone has pulled you up on it though...

Thevelvelletes · 06/05/2024 22:25

Hartley99 · 06/05/2024 22:04

It’s depressing as hell. When you look at old photos, the lack of obese people is really striking. It used to be one of the few ways we could feel superior to Americans! Not any more. We’re now the Americans of Europe.

I’m afraid it’s a pet hate of mine. When I see fat people, I assume they’re either ignorant or greedy (or both). I know that isn’t always fair. In some cases, it really is beyond their control. I don’t buy the poverty argument though. Excusing someone’s obesity on the grounds of poverty seems almost offensive. You don’t need wealth to buy wholemeal bread, baked beans or bags of carrots. Those things cost less than Dunkin donuts and KFC, that’s for sure. I know it’s a cliche, but no British soldier left a Japanese POW camp weighing 20 stone.

Are you for real,many pow of the Japanese left as broken men.

Grammarnut · 06/05/2024 22:26

AloeVerity · 06/05/2024 22:19

People are lulled into a false sense of security. I’m the same size I was 25 years ago. Always stay the same, no idea why. Just bought some trousers in a size 6. Used to be a 10. Then an 8. The 6s of today are exact same size as a (very old) size 10 pair from years ago 🙄

I have the size twelve jacket I wore at 22, in the seventies. It went with a pair of crepe flares. The waist is tiny, half the size of a size 12 now. Very deceptive for us.

Goldenbear · 06/05/2024 22:26

JesusWeptLady · 06/05/2024 21:50

I'm from the UK but live in the USA and all this surprises me, because I thought I lived in the fattest nation ever (on average) and that it was due to higher salt and fat content in the prepared (aka junk) foods, frozen foods, restaurant foods and much bigger portions. I am going to have to have a proper look next time I'm in the UK.

I think on the charts the US is a more overweight country relatively speaking. When I was 6 in the mid 1980’s my Mum organised this 7 week tour of the US, it was great but my Mum in particular couldn’t get over the portion sizes and the endless fast food places, back in London at that time fast food was Macdonalds, Burger King and Wendy’s in central London but not in the suburbs. By the 1990s that all changed - I’m unsure if there is a corresponding trajectory of overweight Brits. I remember as a young child being most impressed y the array of colourful cereals with sweets in like marshmallows. My Mum really found it difficult in some states as she missed vegetables. I have Scandinavian heritage on her side and childhood food was full of vegetables and more fish than my friends. Even now she mildly criticises the lack of veg in my dinners which are cooked mostly from scratch:

BeretRaspberry · 06/05/2024 22:26

TempestTost · 06/05/2024 22:14

It would be nice if this were true, but it's not, or not anymore. The whole thing is now bizarre and toxic, often with claims that saying being obese is unhealthy is "fatphobic" and also untrue. There have been a number of influencers who have died in the last year or so, quite young. And these are not just people who are "normal" fat, many are extremely obese.

What’s not true?

Saying being obese is unhealthy is very, very simplistic. Not everyone who is overweight or obese is unhealthy, just like not everyone who is thin is healthy.

And what about people like me? There are many of us. Those of us who dieted ourselves fat? I tried for nigh on 20 years not to be fat (and I wasn’t when I started) and yet here I am, bigger than ever.

LightSpeeds · 06/05/2024 22:26

SiriAlexa · 06/05/2024 16:52

It must be diet related- processed food becoming normalised rather than cooking from scratch and plenty of vegetables with meals. It is the same in my city, more than half the women seem to be obese.

I was also shocked lately when I visited a Sainsbury’s in a more run down part of my city- junk food was mixed into every aisle and it seemed like sweets and crisps were everywhere. In the Sainsbury’s across the city which is a wealthier area, the junk food has its own dedicated area. It really made me angry as obviously they are pushing more unhealthy food in a less affluent area.

I went into a large Tesco Express last year looking for bread. I found a tiny bread section on the end of an aisle - and then a whole long aisle of crisps (crisps stocked on both sides).

Just wander round a supermarket one day and assess the healthiness of the food. It seems to be aisles and aisles of crap (and a lot of it masquerading as 'healthy' food).

mollyfolk · 06/05/2024 22:27

Blinky21 · 06/05/2024 22:22

Society normalising being unhealthily overweight

I’m fascinated how many people think this.

there are more overweight and obese people - they are now represented in the media. Do you seriously think that people decide they want to become obese?

it’s to do with food. Pretending overweight people don’t exist does nothing,

BuckFadger · 06/05/2024 22:27

notwavingbutdrowning1 · 06/05/2024 21:28

lol. The opinions of unknowns on the internet are of no interest to me. Call me what you like.

The simple fact is that eating too much and not moving enough makes you fat. However whenever this gets pointed out in blunt terms for reasons unknown people seem to get offended.

If you are happy eating too much and not exercising that's fine. But then why get defensive when others call a spade a spade?

Gosh, you're very persistent for someone who doesn't care about the opinions of 'unknowns on the internet', @BuckFadger. It's lovely that you think weight boils down to a simple equation of calories in and exercise out but that was discredited some time ago. Lives are complex, metabolisms vary, other factors make a difference too. And not everyone is self-obsessed enough to count up everything they put in their mouths.

If your final remark is aimed at me, you have no idea what I eat/how much I exercise.

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Self obsessed? You seem to think that giving consideration to what you put in your mouth is a bad thing. I seem to recall there being a quote about that. 'Obsessed' is a word used by the lazy to described the disciplined, or something like that.

Or perhaps you are making excuses for your own situation.

Grammarnut · 06/05/2024 22:30

KindaBinding81 · 06/05/2024 22:23

It is not the governments fault that people are fat

This!!

Actually to some extent it is. In the 80s the school curriculum that covered domestic science (basically cookery) was changed to 'food technology' and instead of learning how to cook actual food/meals children spent time 'designing' pizza toppings and deciding how to market yoghurt. One of the aims of this was supposed to be training people for the food industry (which had always managed to train people who could cook until then) but the real point was to discourage cooking from scratch to a) make it possible for more women to stop being 'economically inactive' (being stay at home mums), and b) to boost the processed food market by creating a customer base for its products. One result of these policies is an obesity problem. (Another is that a mother of three under fives is now considered to be unemployed, which I find vile.)

BuckFadger · 06/05/2024 22:33

Godimtiredallthetime · 06/05/2024 22:14

Ultra processed foods. It's that simple. Diet this and diet that. It's all shit. Real. Food and no diets is what is needed. We've all been brain washed and now we diet and fail and diet and fail and the weight goes up and up. I'm one of them. Trying hard to eat normally again after decades of faddy diets. I'm bigger than I've ever been so clearly they don't actually work.

Very true!

Looking for a quick fix to a long term problem is never going to work. Eating quite well all of the time is the way to be healthy and maintain a good weight. Eating impeccably or doing some silly FAD for a few weeks or months before falling off the wagon never works. Other than to line the pockets of various dieting product companies.

KindaBinding81 · 06/05/2024 22:33

"Being healthy requires a certain amount of money/ time/ energy which many of us just don’t have."

Grow up fgs!

You'll probably find that if you eat more vegetables and actually cook from scratch more, you'll actually save money.

And as for exercise, I discovered an amazing yoga video in lockdown which my whole family still follow now - and it's free:

SallyWD · 06/05/2024 22:35

Grammarnut · 06/05/2024 22:30

Actually to some extent it is. In the 80s the school curriculum that covered domestic science (basically cookery) was changed to 'food technology' and instead of learning how to cook actual food/meals children spent time 'designing' pizza toppings and deciding how to market yoghurt. One of the aims of this was supposed to be training people for the food industry (which had always managed to train people who could cook until then) but the real point was to discourage cooking from scratch to a) make it possible for more women to stop being 'economically inactive' (being stay at home mums), and b) to boost the processed food market by creating a customer base for its products. One result of these policies is an obesity problem. (Another is that a mother of three under fives is now considered to be unemployed, which I find vile.)

I'm not sure about this. My DD does food technology at school and they very much do cook food from scratch each week. They also learn a lot about nutrition in these lessons.

2024babycoming · 06/05/2024 22:35

Hi

I can answer this as I am British. It is because you were on a cruise. The stereotype is old people and chavvy people for cruises. Chavs are often overweight for the same reason Americans are - junk food is cheaper than good food.

ChishiyaBat · 06/05/2024 22:36

Hartley99 · 06/05/2024 22:18

And also the victim mentality. I’m sure lots of people consider themselves victims even while consuming a tray of donuts (“it isn’t my fault, it’s poverty and lack of opportunity and, er, the Tories…now where’s my Ben and Jerry’s ice cream?”).

Anyone in poverty isn't buying ben&jerry's icecream have you seen the price of it!

bluetongue · 06/05/2024 22:37

For me I have long term mental health struggles plus also suspect I may have ADHD. I only have an occasional drink, don’t smoke, don’t take drugs and don’t gamble. Eating is what gives me my dopamine hits. Not excusing it, just giving an explanation.

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