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Why are there so many overweight and obese British women?

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EvaHara · 06/05/2024 16:48

Genuine post and I promise I am not a weight troll. Recently I was on a cruise and couldn't help but notice that many other British women onboard - especially younger women - were considerably overweight or obese. Some were in fact huge and easily as big as some women I saw in the US when there a few years ago.

What has caused this rise in overweight people, particularly younger women? I don't remember there being this many overweight/obese people even 10 years ago.

I am not judging, just curious.

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YesIDidMeanToBeRudeFucko · 06/05/2024 20:49

SeatonCarew · 06/05/2024 20:47

Were they all fat at the start of the cruise?

Excellent point! But also, maybe they were fatter before and actually lost weight on this cruise?
Certainly makes you think

sanogo · 06/05/2024 20:49

Lazy people ordering takeaways every night whilst scrolling through crap on their phones and laying on the sofa

Londonismyjam · 06/05/2024 20:50

YesIDidMeanToBeRudeFucko · 06/05/2024 17:03

How is this cruise ship staying afloat with all these fat bastards on? We've lost sight of how a modern cruise ship balances its ballast tanks!

😂

ThePoshUns · 06/05/2024 20:50

You only have to look at Starbucks / Costa/ restaurants
Coffee with syrups/ marshmallows/ cream.
Burgers are double / triple stacked with extra bacon and cheese.
Breakfast isn't a small fry up anymore , there are waffles/ pancakes/hash browns.
A snack isn't just a bourbon biscuit, it can be a seemingly'healthy ' cereal or protein bar at 300 calories or more.

Willmafrockfit · 06/05/2024 20:51

they we have all given up smoking

Wotsits4life · 06/05/2024 20:52

Oh I got fatter after my first born... Despite running around and eating less, I was eating the wrong things and not looking after myself. Mums do come last :(

EffortlesslyInelegant · 06/05/2024 20:52

sanogo · 06/05/2024 20:49

Lazy people ordering takeaways every night whilst scrolling through crap on their phones and laying on the sofa

You've clearly given this a lot of thought. Well done you! Makes my day when a deep and serious thinker finds time to share their considered opinions.

BananaLlama123 · 06/05/2024 20:52

I'm overweight due to a stressful full time job, three teenagers and raging mental health issues. I self medicate with alcohol but actually I don't really care about myself at all so why bother looking after my body?

does that help? I'm having counselling which is slowly helping, but a DH who doesn't accept that emotions can be irrational means my home life is hard work as well.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 06/05/2024 20:53

I’m fat because I’m hungry Horace I’ll hold my hands up. I hate any talk of diets not because it triggers me but because I find it bleedin’ boring. I’ve got no intentions of losing weight. I also have no problem attracting men.
I don’t hide myself away or wear anything drab and have dresses in every colour.

moonlitmaze · 06/05/2024 20:54

SeatonCarew · 06/05/2024 20:47

Were they all fat at the start of the cruise?

If I went on a cruise they would have to roll me off the ship at the end.

Sweden99 · 06/05/2024 20:54

soupfiend · 06/05/2024 20:44

Im interested in other countries in europe though where it is much more patriarchal and where women do a lot more of the cooking, from scratch, thinking more Italian and Spanish (dont know much about the French/Greeks etc)

I see women doing the donkey work far far more in those countries (we have family there).

A poster mentioned that she saw women doing more housework in the UK than France.
I (man) was a little shocked, as that was utterly not my impression. The French men I worked with could all cook, but considered it the woman's job and thought that were really good husbands for helping with the housework.
It was similar with the Belgians in Brussels, women were shocked that I kept my flat clean and tidy without a maid. When I quickly prepared a meal for date, tidying up as I went, before we headed out on the actual date, she was genuinely shocked. She gossiped about it with her friends. I had never experienced that reaction in the UK.
In Denmark, I think it is pretty similar to the UK. I think Danish women are very generous in their perception. British women married to Danish men report they are bone idle on the whole, Danish women married to British men generally report they do their share. I think it is more a reflection on social values and how people like to see themselves.

0sm0nthus · 06/05/2024 20:54

If you are used to highly palatable food like substances then proper food can taste very bland, not to mention the time & effort required to prepare it.

ArcticOwl · 06/05/2024 20:56

Gruffallowhydidntyouknow · 06/05/2024 20:31

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Porridge is cheaper than cereal, root veg, dahls, chick peas, beans etc all cheap. The biscuits, crisps, squash don't need to be bought. Use frozen fruit and veg....

You put on your coat and boots and go for a walk whatever the weather. It's also free yo walk and run.

Time- you make time. I have 3 children under 3 & 2 dogs. I work 4 days a week and have a house and garden to look after. I get up at 5:30am to exercise, then take the dogs out, then on working days I will get food in the slow cooker to be ready after work. I go to bed by 9:30 to be up early, prep salads for lunches the night before.

It's not splitting the atom, it's basic planning, time management and motivation.

How nice it must be to be an able bodied person with the time/energy to do all that.

One day of that, i'd be floored for a week, but you know. we can't all be healthy/perfect/not disabled.

Sweden99 · 06/05/2024 20:56

0sm0nthus · 06/05/2024 20:54

If you are used to highly palatable food like substances then proper food can taste very bland, not to mention the time & effort required to prepare it.

Living in the USA, I started to sympathise with them. Food without added sugar would taste very strange and even bland to them.

BuckFadger · 06/05/2024 20:56

It usually boils down a 2 factor combination in my opinion. Lack of discipline and being lazy.

Most people will know roughly how much food they need to consume but instead overindulge.

Most people could probably make time for a home workout, run or gym session a couple of times a week but instead watch TV.

SuziQuinto · 06/05/2024 20:57

I wouldn't get up at 5.30am and go to bed at 9.30pm. Sounds a bit dull.
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PrincessTeaSet · 06/05/2024 20:58

BloodyHellKenAgain · 06/05/2024 20:48

I was a teenager in the 1980s and it was the same. I can't remember anyone at school or college who was obese. We had 1 teacher at school who was overweight but she had some health issues that affected her mobility. But even by todays standards she wasn't that big.

You only have to look back at old episodes of ToTPs etc to see how slim people were before the advent of ready meals, UPF everywhere.

Child of the 80s and 90s here. We had one overweight girl in our primary school. A few chubby ones by end of secondary school.

A third of my son's reception class are overweight.

I think it's the toxic combination of screens and upf. Although upf was definitely around when I was a child it hadn't reached the ubiquity and low cost that it is now. Meanwhile kids spend all their spare time indoors on screens. When I was young kids TV was very limited hours and we played out a lot of the time.

Sweden99 · 06/05/2024 20:58

BuckFadger · 06/05/2024 20:56

It usually boils down a 2 factor combination in my opinion. Lack of discipline and being lazy.

Most people will know roughly how much food they need to consume but instead overindulge.

Most people could probably make time for a home workout, run or gym session a couple of times a week but instead watch TV.

Edited

Yes.
So are you suggesting we change the people out until we fit a population up to your standards?
Or do we accept people as they are and perhaps change their circumstances?
Or just keep judging them until that cures everything?

gertrudeteacake · 06/05/2024 20:58

It has become completely normalised in this country to eat highly processed foods. It's embarrassing and will be the ruination of the NHS.

Jeannne92 · 06/05/2024 20:58

soupfiend · 06/05/2024 20:44

Im interested in other countries in europe though where it is much more patriarchal and where women do a lot more of the cooking, from scratch, thinking more Italian and Spanish (dont know much about the French/Greeks etc)

I see women doing the donkey work far far more in those countries (we have family there).

I lived in Spain for 9 years as an adult, with Spanish family, and have a lot of Spanish friends. Spain is a really feminist country ina lot of ways, especially since the PSOE Podemos coalition era. This said, a lot of women in Spain do take on the mental and physical load of the lioness' share of cooking, food shopping, caring for the elderly (men seem to take on an equal-ish share of child-related responsibilities) while also working full-time. In older generations, women do a lot (but, similar to the U.K., worked less or not at all before 1977).

The main ways in which Spanish eating culture is different to U.K. is:

  • everyone eats together, family meal times are sacred. Meals are slow so well digested.
  • healthy, fresh, delicious foods esp. fruit and veg. are cheap and abundant (in season)
  • focus on home-cooking, as it is cheaper (e.g. lentils, chickpeas, beans)
  • smaller portions (sharing rations of 'tapas', for example)
  • less culture of snacking and less abundant junk food
  • much less chocolate (too hot / not part of the culture) although there is hot chocolate and chocolate flavoured things
  • for women (and increasingly, men) BIKINI OPERATION in the spring, essentially, dieting for the summer (as you spend 3 months in a bikini)
  • generally less alcohol than in U.K. and apart from youngsters clubbing and the annual summer fiestas in your town, alcohol is consumed with a meal

This doesn't mean the Spanish diet is perfect! A big problem, for example, is colon cancer and other health issues from eating too much processed (not ultra processed and often good quality), salted, fatty pork.

Thequeenofwishfulthinking · 06/05/2024 20:58

@Sweden99 I’ve no idea. I’m basing my opinion on what I know and experience. I don’t think it’s selfish to eat regular fresh meals and exercise. I’m not overweight either so I’m only speculating based on what I see & hear combined with how I view society today in 2024.
Alcohol intake in England plays a huge part as it’s become normal to many to drink to excess several nights a week.
Where I work there are many women who drink every night of the week, eat mainly processed food and live sedentary lifestyles. They claim not to eat much and don’t understand why they aren’t slim like others. They are always on a diet. They starve themselves for hours then eat cakes regularly. They talk about food constantly and comment on everything others eat.
I think it would benefit them to eat three regular meals a day, cut down on the booze and walk to work. I don’t think there needs to be drastic measures such as getting up with the larks to exercise or exist on lettuce. It has to be a sustainable long term way of living. I understand it’s different if there are serious health issues and morbid obesity.

katebushh · 06/05/2024 20:59

Honestly, I don't know. I was on holiday at Easter sitting around the pool and beach and I just couldn't believe how many very overweight people there were outweighing average sized (pun unintended).

WhitegreeNcandle · 06/05/2024 20:59

I think UPF has a huge part to play. I was a skinny child in the 80’s. Healthy weight teen in the 90’s. Grew up on a farm and did sport 6 days out of 7. Probably barely sat down. Had a fish supper maybe once every few months and the odd Sunday carvery at the local.

Then j moved to London to Uni. I got so fat. Far less movement, ate a fry up in halls for breakfast, a cheese baguette, cake and crisps for lunch. Halls dinner in the evening before a lot of booze and a cheeky McDonald’s at 1am. I put on about 6 stone. the availability of food just rocketed to me.

I was far for all of my twenties then I lost 5 stone on my 30’d and have kept it off. I run 3 times a week, mostly Dow 15k steps a day. But mainly I cook healthy homemade food I grew up with (plus pasta and adventurous salads as they didn’t exist on farms in the 80’s). We don’t eat takeaways - maybe once every 3 months or so.

i find it so sad that you can have a McDonald’s delivered to your door.

soupfiend · 06/05/2024 20:59

Sweden99 · 06/05/2024 20:54

A poster mentioned that she saw women doing more housework in the UK than France.
I (man) was a little shocked, as that was utterly not my impression. The French men I worked with could all cook, but considered it the woman's job and thought that were really good husbands for helping with the housework.
It was similar with the Belgians in Brussels, women were shocked that I kept my flat clean and tidy without a maid. When I quickly prepared a meal for date, tidying up as I went, before we headed out on the actual date, she was genuinely shocked. She gossiped about it with her friends. I had never experienced that reaction in the UK.
In Denmark, I think it is pretty similar to the UK. I think Danish women are very generous in their perception. British women married to Danish men report they are bone idle on the whole, Danish women married to British men generally report they do their share. I think it is more a reflection on social values and how people like to see themselves.

Yes this is my experience, in Spain and Italy the women are the sole child carers, cooks, cleaners etc etc. Its their job to look after family.

Although obviously looking after family means cooking beautiful, healthy, home cooked fresh foods

BuckFadger · 06/05/2024 20:59

Sweden99 · 06/05/2024 20:58

Yes.
So are you suggesting we change the people out until we fit a population up to your standards?
Or do we accept people as they are and perhaps change their circumstances?
Or just keep judging them until that cures everything?

I am not judging nor expecting them to change. I like to keep in shape but if others are happy being overweight then good luck to them.

I am merely answering OPs question.

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