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Anybody else dislike football.

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Imtoooldforallthis · 04/05/2024 11:36

I know iabu so please don't tell me so. But I'm struggling with my husbands love of watching football. I know its really popular but I just hate the mob mentality around watching it. I'm also a bit envious that he has this passion and that he can literally talk to anyone anywhere. We are currently abroad and there is a big match on that is shown in most bars, we have arranged to meet his friends and it will be all about the football, even the wives don't seem to mind it. I feel very out of it. Does anyone else feel the same?

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LlynTegid · 05/05/2024 10:56

Where I do have some sympathy with the OP is if her DH only talks about one thing. Even if it was not football.

KreedKafer · 05/05/2024 10:58

The issue here isn’t that you don’t like football. Your issue is that you resent that your DH does like football because he has something in his life that’s important to him. The most revealing part of your post is where you say you’re envious that he always seems to have something to talk to people about.

He doesn’t have to like the same things as you. Arranging to meet some friends to watch a game isn’t a remotely unreasonable thing for him to do. You don’t have to go with him.

I think you just need to ask yourself why your DH having an interest you don’t share is such a big issue for you, because I think this is much more about you feeling insecure or ‘left out’ than it is about the football.

thevegetablesoup · 05/05/2024 11:05

Houseplanter · 05/05/2024 10:55

The police presence itself indicates the nature of the games. Yes there is a police presence at big events, but you don't see the same at Wimbledon, golf, rugby, the Olympics etc.

Says it all really.

As for what goes on on the pitch.. they're not 'professionals'. They cheating brats

Classism dripping from this post

bloodyplumbing · 05/05/2024 11:06

Houseplanter · 05/05/2024 10:55

The police presence itself indicates the nature of the games. Yes there is a police presence at big events, but you don't see the same at Wimbledon, golf, rugby, the Olympics etc.

Says it all really.

As for what goes on on the pitch.. they're not 'professionals'. They cheating brats

Yeah but it's our national sport and it gets lots of people together and cheering teams on!

It's great!

Justcallmelucy · 05/05/2024 11:07

I don't really like watching it on TV. I find all the squabbles over replays annoying. I do quite like going to an actual game though. Certainly better than watching it on TV. I don't go all the time but I do sometimes go along to watch a game with my OH and our son.

ilovesooty · 05/05/2024 11:13

RaspberryCloud · 05/05/2024 10:50

With you on all of the above! I detest the tribalism, turns people into Neanderthals. And frankly I find it incomprehensible that players are paid what they are....totslky ridiculous. I definitely judge fans.

I don't think my friend and I have turned into neanderthals yet. The last time I looked we were pretty normal people.

RaspberryCloud · 05/05/2024 11:33

I'm sure you are, but having been born & raised in the West of Scotland, I've seen the damage football tribalism can do. Here, football = religion = sectarianism. Violence, murder, whole areas of towns & cities off limit if you're wearing the wrong colours. Small children divided & encouraged to mock each other from a young age; the question 'who do you support?' used to instantly categorise people into 'the enemy.' It might be nice and fluffy in other places but not up here....

KreedKafer · 05/05/2024 11:37

ElaineMBenes · 05/05/2024 09:08

Whereas the mad keen football fans I know are devoted to their families and would never put football ahead of family.
The odd one that does, is told by his friends how unacceptable that is.

I've been happily married to a football fan for 11 years. According to this thread i should have avoided him because:

  • he's a yob ( not true - he's a well educated professional who treats people with respect)
  • he's stupid ( not true - he had multiple degrees including a PhD)
  • he's a man child ( not true - he's a very capable functioning adult who more than pulls his weight)
  • he will always put football first ( again, not true. This year he sold his Manchester derby ticket to take me and his mum out for an early Mother's Day because he was working away on actual Mother's Day)

-he's incapable of speaking about anything other than football ( again, not true. He has a wide range of interests including reading, history, politics and is so much fun on a night out)

Thankfully I don't judge people who happen to like football otherwise I'd have missed out.

The default attitude to football has always been ignorant and snobbish on Mumsnet.

I love football and DP’s interest in football is one of the things that attracted me to him.

DP, by the way, is a shy, kind, gentle, extremely intelligent man. His other interests are politics, modern art and architecture, obscure music, art house cinema, restaurants and travel. He’s a left-wing feminist and one of the most principled people I’ve ever met.

He’s the absolute opposite of a man-child. He’s far more conscientious and responsible than I am. He does all the household admin and as we speak, he’s outside hanging out the washing while I’m still in bed at 11.30am drinking a cup of tea that he made for me.

He also LOVES football. It’s taken him all over the country, and the world, to watch games at every level from World Cup internationals to non-league village teams in remote rural locations. He is endlessly fascinated by the links between football, identity, social history and culture.

He doesn’t put it first. He missed a massive England game to take his mum to the theatre (even though it was a musical, which he loathes) for her birthday.

KreedKafer · 05/05/2024 11:37

thevegetablesoup · 05/05/2024 11:05

Classism dripping from this post

And from most of the other posts on this thread.

bloodyplumbing · 05/05/2024 12:00

RaspberryCloud · 05/05/2024 11:33

I'm sure you are, but having been born & raised in the West of Scotland, I've seen the damage football tribalism can do. Here, football = religion = sectarianism. Violence, murder, whole areas of towns & cities off limit if you're wearing the wrong colours. Small children divided & encouraged to mock each other from a young age; the question 'who do you support?' used to instantly categorise people into 'the enemy.' It might be nice and fluffy in other places but not up here....

So we can safely say it doesn't turn everyone into a Neanderthal then?

thevegetablesoup · 05/05/2024 12:35

RaspberryCloud · 05/05/2024 11:33

I'm sure you are, but having been born & raised in the West of Scotland, I've seen the damage football tribalism can do. Here, football = religion = sectarianism. Violence, murder, whole areas of towns & cities off limit if you're wearing the wrong colours. Small children divided & encouraged to mock each other from a young age; the question 'who do you support?' used to instantly categorise people into 'the enemy.' It might be nice and fluffy in other places but not up here....

But this isn't the fault of football. Football is being used as a vehicle for vile sectarianism which is a problem specific to that location. I went to university in Edinburgh and was shocked going into a pub at 18 and seeing signs saying "no football colours". My Scottish friends had to explain it to me because in NE England where I grew up it would have been the norm to wear a football strip to the pub and it not cause any bother whatsoever.

WalkWithMeSuzieLee · 05/05/2024 12:39

I can't abide it. DH loves it but he's not an arsehole about it so I just have to grin and bear it.

NewName24 · 05/05/2024 12:50

What I can't stand however, is the long days out and drinking sessions that surrounds football matches.
For example , my partner can't just go to watch a football match for 3pm, he has to be out drinking by midday and comes home late,l after the match, is hungover all the next day and opts out of doing things with our daughter because of it. Often whole weekends are lost.

That, @mrlistersgelfbride , is nothing to do with football, and everything to do with your partner's issues around alcohol.
Hundreds of thousands - no, millions - of people manage to watch football every week without alcohol being involved. Many will have a pint or two, but then leave it at that. If your partner can't then it is him that has the issue, not football.

Bluevelvetsofa · 05/05/2024 12:54

We aren’t football fans and I object to the amount of time devoted to it on TV. Last time there was a similar thread, in which I was told that there’s not much on terrestrial TV. Not true.

My grandson plays football and I think his family have been alarmed by the touchline parents, whose level of aggression is scary and that’s what’s concerning about adult games too.

I’m afraid that football treats young boys ( generally) like gods and they earn ridiculous amounts of money, when they’re not mature enough to deal with it. I know there are exceptions, but there are frequent newspaper reports about the way that they conduct their lives.

NewName24 · 05/05/2024 12:58

KreedKafer · 05/05/2024 10:58

The issue here isn’t that you don’t like football. Your issue is that you resent that your DH does like football because he has something in his life that’s important to him. The most revealing part of your post is where you say you’re envious that he always seems to have something to talk to people about.

He doesn’t have to like the same things as you. Arranging to meet some friends to watch a game isn’t a remotely unreasonable thing for him to do. You don’t have to go with him.

I think you just need to ask yourself why your DH having an interest you don’t share is such a big issue for you, because I think this is much more about you feeling insecure or ‘left out’ than it is about the football.

Totally agree with this.

bloodyplumbing · 05/05/2024 13:13

Bluevelvetsofa · 05/05/2024 12:54

We aren’t football fans and I object to the amount of time devoted to it on TV. Last time there was a similar thread, in which I was told that there’s not much on terrestrial TV. Not true.

My grandson plays football and I think his family have been alarmed by the touchline parents, whose level of aggression is scary and that’s what’s concerning about adult games too.

I’m afraid that football treats young boys ( generally) like gods and they earn ridiculous amounts of money, when they’re not mature enough to deal with it. I know there are exceptions, but there are frequent newspaper reports about the way that they conduct their lives.

There really isn't a lot of football on terrestrial TV, not sure why you think there is?

HunterHearstHelmsley · 05/05/2024 13:18

thevegetablesoup · 04/05/2024 16:28

I somethings think snobbery towards football is thinly veiled snobbery towards working class people. Certainly I feel this sometimes as a supporter of a club in a northern, traditionally working class city.

I was thinking exactly this. The vast majority of people I know that are vocal about their dislike of like football are snobs. I used to have one particular friend who would say football was played by idiots and watched by yobs, she would whinge if others in the group would talk about football and their respective clubs. She'd just refuse to engage and say it wasn't interesting. Funnily enough, she didn't like it when the favour was returned and others didn't want to discuss her interests.

I love football. I wouldn't date, marry any man who wasn't into football and if they supported a different club, they'd have to understand any future children wouldn't be supporting them.

I can count on one hand the amount of times I've felt unsafe at a match, I wouldn't walk down Witton Lane on my own other than when a match has been on.

There's always a lot of conjecture and judgement towards football that I don't find for most other sports. Well, except professional wrestling 😉

AsYouMightBe · 05/05/2024 13:23

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HunterHearstHelmsley · 05/05/2024 13:23

bloodyplumbing · 05/05/2024 13:13

There really isn't a lot of football on terrestrial TV, not sure why you think there is?

Scottish TV tend to show more football on terrestial, there's some cup games and the final, there tends to be more women's football on terrestial than men's. I'm assuming the previous poster is talking about men's though.

Totally agree, unless it's Euros or World Cup years then there certainly isn't a lot of football on terrestial TV.

stargirl1701 · 05/05/2024 13:24

Intensely. But, I grew up in the Central Belt of Scotland and where its impact is worse than anywhere else in the UK.

I married a rugby man!

HunterHearstHelmsley · 05/05/2024 13:27

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Costacoffeeplease · 05/05/2024 14:28

How very mature and sensible @HunterHearstHelmsley

thevegetablesoup · 05/05/2024 14:37

@AsYouMightBe's comment just as rude

ilovesooty · 05/05/2024 16:14

thevegetablesoup · 05/05/2024 14:37

@AsYouMightBe's comment just as rude

Of course it is. Just as rude. She's been clever in how she phrased it though to ensure it wasn't deleted.

Aphrodite89 · 06/05/2024 19:50

Always find it interesting how many people in these threads moan about how much players are paid. Funnily enough you practically never see such comments in threads about films, TV, music, other sports etc.

Football is pretty much the only major industry in the UK where those from a middle class and privately educated background are not massively over-represented amongst the highest earners. It says a lot about the unpleasant attitudes of some that they have a real problem with the wealth of the industry that makes more working class (and ethnic minority for that matter) millionaires than any other in this country.