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Mummytoswiftie25 · 2024-04-27T09:39:58+00:00

I took my DD to a movie with a few friends yesterday - it was a specific movie they had been waiting to see and so they went all out and dressed up in costumes. we were waiting in the food court outside and the girls were mucking about hugging etc when a man approached us with his mobile phone out and lifted his phone up, I automatically went “ what are you doing “ and he proceeded to then ask us if it was ok to take a picture of any DD alone. I asked him if he had taken any other pictures and to move away. I called security over and asked to see the photos he has taken, he had taken a few of the girls playing around and then told security it was a mis understanding and they he just appreciated her costume, deleted the photos and they let him leave. surely any man I would say 35-40 years old would know this to be wrong ?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 27/04/2024 21:36

Fangisnotacoward · 27/04/2024 21:32

An anime film has come out recently (not sure if it's the film in question) but it's quite popular for dress up and cosplay.

It's a given and stated heavily at a comic con etc that you ask for permission to take pictures.

My kids go to comiccons in cosplay, and taking pics without permission or consent is very frowned upon.

Even if it was innocent because he liked the costumes, he should absolutely know better than to do that. 1. It's frowned upon if you are part of that "scene". 2. Who takes pictures of random kids without their knowledge...?

He may not go to cons to know this and its a problem around the venue of said cons that non con goers will take pictures assuming "person in costume" = "asking for attention and you can just take photos"

Shade17 · 27/04/2024 21:38

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 27/04/2024 21:26

Geez

Imagine calling someone all those names and accusing them of being vile for pointing facts out and telling them to die and then thinking YOU'RE the one in the right

I know, right? I don’t disagree that it’s common sense not to film/photo children without permission and I certainly wouldn’t be happy with someone doing it to mine, but I also accept that I can’t do anything about it. The only way you can force someone to delete the pictures is with a court order. There’s absolutely no need to get hysterical in the face of facts. As a PP said, if you feel that passionately about it then campaign for a change in the law.

Ponoka7 · 27/04/2024 21:46

Legally you can't do anything about it. Practically most women couldn't, but it's strange how the men who do this, change demeanour when confronted by another man. He's up north, if he carries on it won't be long before his face is rearranged and in absence of the law, violence is absolutely the answer to those who prey on children.

yellowlupins · 27/04/2024 21:53

Whether you like it or not, not everyone has to suddenly "know" all these so called things that "everyone" should know.
That's what laws are for or at least plenty of signage if it's to discourage certain actions . They make it clear.

I occasionally attend an event where people dress up, think Renaissance fair sort of thing. People would be taking photos of everyone, and kids in costumes would be photographed all the time.
When did it change that you can't take photos of people who intentionally dress up for an event?
I understand if you don't like it and to comunicate this is a calm way is fine, but I wouldn't appreciate being called names because I did something that in other occasions is perfectly fine and certainly was fine a few years ago .

Shade17 · 27/04/2024 22:06

yellowlupins · 27/04/2024 21:53

Whether you like it or not, not everyone has to suddenly "know" all these so called things that "everyone" should know.
That's what laws are for or at least plenty of signage if it's to discourage certain actions . They make it clear.

I occasionally attend an event where people dress up, think Renaissance fair sort of thing. People would be taking photos of everyone, and kids in costumes would be photographed all the time.
When did it change that you can't take photos of people who intentionally dress up for an event?
I understand if you don't like it and to comunicate this is a calm way is fine, but I wouldn't appreciate being called names because I did something that in other occasions is perfectly fine and certainly was fine a few years ago .

I think if you attend an event like that all dressed up to participate then there’s likely an expectation that you’re going to be photographed and that’s all good. In the OP’s scenario there’s absolutely no difference legally but it’s courteous to ask permission. I even ask permission to photograph peoples’ dogs when out and about.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 27/04/2024 22:50

yellowlupins · 27/04/2024 21:53

Whether you like it or not, not everyone has to suddenly "know" all these so called things that "everyone" should know.
That's what laws are for or at least plenty of signage if it's to discourage certain actions . They make it clear.

I occasionally attend an event where people dress up, think Renaissance fair sort of thing. People would be taking photos of everyone, and kids in costumes would be photographed all the time.
When did it change that you can't take photos of people who intentionally dress up for an event?
I understand if you don't like it and to comunicate this is a calm way is fine, but I wouldn't appreciate being called names because I did something that in other occasions is perfectly fine and certainly was fine a few years ago .

Events will often include in their rules that you should ask before taking a direct photo (obviously people will appear in the background and they also make it clear that this can't be helped)

People outside of the Events may still take photos because of the spectacle (like taking photos of a parade)

BronwenTheBrave · 27/04/2024 23:13

BobbyBiscuits · 27/04/2024 11:41

Well I can't think of any reason why it isn't massively sinister. He should be barred from the cinema, the whole chain! Did you get a picture of him? You could contact head office and describe him if not, there must be cameras.

Perhaps find his address? There are quite a few groups on SM who would go and have a ‘word’ with him. Men are such vile creatures.

InWalksBarberalla · 27/04/2024 23:16

I've taken photos of people dressed up in public when my son was younger - because they were dressed up as characters from tv shows he liked. Then I would show them to him 'look who I saw when I was at work / at the shops'.

Karmaisagod · 27/04/2024 23:40

Some of the answers to this thread are giving me the absolute creeps. Those of you being deliberately obtuse and missing the point of the thread (that in this day and age it is weird, unnecessary and unjustifiable to take picture of kids your don't know) by derailing and trying to split hairs - It's Not Illegal! What if it had been a woman? Security men have no powers! - please take a moment to consider how you're coming across. Unless, of course, you are comfortable that it is an accurate representation of who you are.

InWalksBarberalla · 28/04/2024 00:37

If OPs daughter was dressed as Elsa from Frozen and the man jas a 2 year old at home obsessed with Elsa from Frozen would him taking a photo still be completely beyond the pale?

ErrolTheDragon · 28/04/2024 00:42

InWalksBarberalla · 28/04/2024 00:37

If OPs daughter was dressed as Elsa from Frozen and the man jas a 2 year old at home obsessed with Elsa from Frozen would him taking a photo still be completely beyond the pale?

Without permission? Yes.

Original poster

Mummytoswiftie25 · 28/04/2024 01:57

InWalksBarberalla · 28/04/2024 00:37

If OPs daughter was dressed as Elsa from Frozen and the man jas a 2 year old at home obsessed with Elsa from Frozen would him taking a photo still be completely beyond the pale?

Yes he should buy his own kid an Elsa dress 😅

OP posts:

AnxiousRabbit · 28/04/2024 07:24

InWalksBarberalla · 28/04/2024 00:37

If OPs daughter was dressed as Elsa from Frozen and the man jas a 2 year old at home obsessed with Elsa from Frozen would him taking a photo still be completely beyond the pale?

Without asking first- yes