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To ask about your work place pension?

120 replies

Mmmmarmalade · 26/04/2024 14:34

How much you contribute as a % of your salary and how much your employer does?

The minimum an employer has to is 3% which feels awfully low.

my old old employer had a very good scheme, performed v well to, they paid 10% and then a further match up to 6%.
current is ok competitively but not as good, 8+5%

what’s yours like? Wish I still had my old pension plan, can’t lie

OP posts:
LifeExperience · 26/04/2024 15:07

Retired American military officer. No contributions from me. Started with half of base pay at time of retirement, which increases each year according to the inflation rate. Full private medical cover paid by fed gov't. Survivor's benefits for my husband upon my death.

Husband is retired American federal government employee. He contributed 3% of earnings to pension while working. At retirement he received the average pay of his last 3 years of service multiplied by 1.1% for each year of service, so roughly 35% of his final pay. He also has full private medical cover and survivor's benefits for me if he dies first.

We both receive Social Security, which is the US Gov't state pension and which is decided by some complicated formula based on lifetime earnings. We contributed 6.2% of earnings toward that while working and the gov't matched 6.2%.

In addition we invested through the government plan in stocks, bonds and US Treasury notes. I didn't get a match being military, but my husband's contributions were matched, with the first 3% being matched dollar for dollar and an additional 2% being matched at 50%.

WelshNerd · 26/04/2024 15:07

Lots of people don't understand the difference between DB & DC. I spent a lot of time in my old job trying to explain why the pension scheme was so good and worth the personal contribution.

OneRingToRuleThemAll · 26/04/2024 15:09

LGPS and no idea how much I contribute. I only know the figure that hits my bank account every month.

Bjorkdidit · 26/04/2024 15:14

Mmmmarmalade · 26/04/2024 14:50

So all in, that’s over 30% going into your pension a month?

im in the wrong line of work!

Plenty of vacancies in the NHS. Because more and more people are deciding that a good pension isn't enough to compensate for poor pay compared to similar jobs in the private sector, inadequate funding of services, shift work, badly maintained hospitals etc etc.

monpetitchou · 26/04/2024 15:16

I salary sacrifice 6% and my employer matches it. Doing it by ss means we both save on tax, I think.

rainbowunicorn · 26/04/2024 15:17

OneRingToRuleThemAll · 26/04/2024 15:09

LGPS and no idea how much I contribute. I only know the figure that hits my bank account every month.

It will show on your pay slip how much you pay
It will be a set percentage depending on your pay grade.

Blackhorse32 · 26/04/2024 15:23

Currently 7.5%, which is matched by employer. This is the best pension I have had to date. Move jobs in September and will be on LGPS, which I will pay less towards but it is a better scheme overall.

Musicaltheatremum · 26/04/2024 15:23

Mmmmarmalade · 26/04/2024 14:50

So all in, that’s over 30% going into your pension a month?

im in the wrong line of work!

But the 30% isn't funding your pension pot as such in the NHS it's funding the people who are currently receiving their pensions (me included) so your pension is dependent on your earnings over the years. It would be good if your employer did put 30% into your pension though!! Would soon ramp up your LTA.

Even with the new scheme it's a great pension.

parkrun500club · 26/04/2024 15:29

I'm at a law firm - they put in 5% and I put in 5%.

I also pay into a private scheme that I've had since I was in my 20s and have other savings.

I mix and match as I like to have some control over my investments. If I wanted to add to my private pension I'd have to go through loads of forms to prove I can afford to. If I want to add to my share ISA, I just log on and do it.

Work2live · 26/04/2024 15:30

I’m private sector, and have some pensions that have been much better than others.

Current one is ok, I pay in 6% and employer matches it up to 6% but not above.

Hellohah · 26/04/2024 15:31

I pay 6.5% and employer pays 13.5%

Mmmmarmalade · 26/04/2024 15:36

SuperLois34 · 26/04/2024 14:55

Do you work for a prominent high street bank?

Mmm, possibly 👀😂

The scheme details looked too familiar! I think I actually got it wrong in my OP, it wasn’t 6% it was 7%

inside joke, does everything ‘become complicated’ IYKYK 😂

OP posts:
Lemonyyy · 26/04/2024 15:38

University. I pay 9.6, they pay 12.3 (not a superannuation scheme!)

LBOCS2 · 26/04/2024 15:39

Private company, set up for bare minimum - they pay 3%, standard employee contribution is 5%. I've upped my contribution to 10% but they don't change theirs.

DappledOliveGroves · 26/04/2024 15:39

Law firm here. So far it's the most generous of where I've worked. They match up to 6% (everywhere else has been 5%). I contribute 14%.

Can only dream of the public sector pensions that some people on here have!

ByKindOpalPoet · 26/04/2024 15:40

I currently pay 8.6% this will increase to 9.6% when I move through the salary threshold, I can if I choose to go higher and earn more pay up to 11.2%. My employer currently pays 28.6%. However mine is defined benefit and career average meaning my pension is based on my best three years out of my last 10 years of employment in that profession

Nw22 · 26/04/2024 15:43

@DappledOliveGroves I’m sure public sector employees can only dream of your salary though

anothermug · 26/04/2024 15:44

easylikeasundaymorn · 26/04/2024 15:02

Yes I didn't understand this for ages, got confused as to why my pension looked so small when apparently more than 32% of my salary was being put into it (civil service).

It's still a good scheme though, just a bit confusing.

tbh I'm usually good at "understanding" stuff - reading lots if completely info and summarising it simply is literally a key part of my job! But despite this and csp creating loads of guides pensions are the one thing I can never get my head around!

@easylikeasundaymorn do you mind if I ask what it is that seems so confusing? It would be so helpful for those of us who work in pensions to better understand - as you know there are lots of guides to pensions around but they dont always seem to work as intended.

Catowl · 26/04/2024 15:45

9.8%
employer pays 23.7%

GlitteringFeeling · 26/04/2024 15:45

Private sector defined contribution. I contribute 7.5% and employer 20%.

I know it’s very good, and makes it hard to leave.

Jaxhog · 26/04/2024 15:47

AllyCart · 26/04/2024 15:06

The cost of public sector pensions is huge. It can't be underestimated when comparing salaries between sectors.

According to FT research: https://www.ft.com/content/9d9b03d0-55ff-4e2a-8ec7-2caab0a89381

The average cost of all UK public sector pensions for 2021 is 63 per cent of the salaries. Some of this is paid by employee contributions, averaging 8 per cent, leaving the balance — 55 per cent of salary — to be paid by taxpayers.

So on average, a public sector salary of £34k would need to be £50k in the private sector if the private sector job came with the average employer contribution (4.5% from my Googling) just to get to the same salary + pension contribution total.

A sobering thought if you work in the private sector.

Settlement22 · 26/04/2024 15:50

Employer 19%, me 6%. Private sector

PamPamPamPam · 26/04/2024 15:51

laclochette · 26/04/2024 14:58

Mine is tremendously crap. They pay the absolute minimum which is 3% but only on the minimum qualifying salary which is £6,240-£50,270. I make £110,000 so they actually only contribute what works out at about 1.3% of my total salary. As a result I pay 15% myself. That said, I'd always pay at least £10k in a year to keep myself under the £100k loss of personal allowance, but it's still a lot more than I'd like to have to contribute.

Is that legal?

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 26/04/2024 15:52

Civil service, i pay in 4%, can't remember what employer puts in but it doesn't really matter as its an average salary scheme so is based on my salary each year

Wotcher · 26/04/2024 15:56

anothermug · 26/04/2024 15:44

@easylikeasundaymorn do you mind if I ask what it is that seems so confusing? It would be so helpful for those of us who work in pensions to better understand - as you know there are lots of guides to pensions around but they dont always seem to work as intended.

@easylikeasundaymorn It’s not at all confusing, the alpha scheme is very easy to understand.

2.32% of your annual salary goes into your pot each year. The total of the pot is the annual amount you’ll receive at retirement.