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DS being Controlled

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AnxiousAnnie7583127 · 26/04/2024 08:26

Sorry this is long!

My DS is 19. An adult on paper. Thing is he's vulnerable. He has ASD and we think a mild learning disability but that's never been diagnosed.
He was badly bullied in school due to his vulnerable and gullible nature.
Since then he's made friends, mainly with other neurodiverse young adults.
The problem is that he's very easily controlled by others. Even if they're not actively trying to control him, he will insist he has to do certain things because he perceives that he must as they want him to. For example he had a girlfriend. They would be on the phone every evening at a set time. Sometimes she'd be busy and that was OK but he'd not even want to come and have his dinner other times because he felt he must be on the phone or available to be on the phone at all times within a set period.

A boy he now hangs out who we will call Robbie, is harrasing him to go to places and do things DS doesn't want to do. Instead of saying no or making up an excuse he does it because he feels forced. We've tried to tell him he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do but he says he has to or Robbie will be annoyed and turn all his friends against him. As far as we are aware none of what Robbie wants our DS to do is illegal or dangerous etc but it's the Controlling nature of the relationship we have concerns with. If he did want our DS to do something questionable we are not confident that DS wouldn't.
We don't like Robbie. Robbie has an attitude that we find abrasive. We've tried to like him and be sympathetic to the reasons he may be how he is but we can't get over that gut feeling that he's not OK.
Our initial instinct was he was not a nice person and we don't usually judge people (particularly kids) in that way.
He's a bully in our DS friend group and seems to have a similar affect on the others as he does our DS.
What do we do? We are fully aware DS is 19 but he is more like a 14 or 15 year old and as I said he's vulnerable.
I want to step in and somehow make it difficult for him to see Robbie but am wrangling with the fact he's still an adult in the eyes of the law.
That being said, one of his friends isn't allowed out without a carer. How do you decide what's best for your child and their needs as a vulnerable person?

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AnxiousAnnie7583127 · 26/04/2024 08:27

I'll just add that if it was a romantic relationship where someone was being controlled, it would be frowned upon.
Also my AIBU is, AIBU to try to interfere with this friendship?

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AnxiousAnnie7583127 · 26/04/2024 23:44

I can't believe not a single person has commented on my post. Does this actually happen?

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Evenstar · 26/04/2024 23:47

Is your DS still in education? It might be worth alerting his college and asking their advice.

Pantaloons99 · 26/04/2024 23:51

Hey Annie, I don't have much advice but understand the dilemma. My son is Autistic/ ADHD. Much younger though.
I think the only way to interrupt this relationship is to somehow make it difficult without your son knowing. How else can you address it. I also imagine your son won't hear you if you advise him to stay away from this person and will just go along with it anyway. I'm thinking this Robbie character may be Neurodivergent himself? If he isn't, that would make me more concerned I guess .
You can't exactly say you're not allowed to hang out with him to your son either I imagine.

I'm no fan of Facebook but there's a group called Ask Autistic Adults or something like that. I think you'd get much better advice there Often there's a wide mix of responses so it can really help alot in guiding you as mum whilst understanding it better from the perspective of your son.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 26/04/2024 23:53

Would he agree to see a counsellor? I'm thinking of the art of asking the right questions. Maybe you can do that a bit yourself. Ask him why he thinks Robbie does this or that, what would he do in the same situation, what wouldn't another friend do? You can't tell him, he needs to figure it out for himself. I hope I've made sense.

AnxiousAnnie7583127 · 03/05/2024 07:05

Evenstar · 26/04/2024 23:47

Is your DS still in education? It might be worth alerting his college and asking their advice.

He is but he's out in a few weeks. I'm hoping that both Robbie and DS will move on and find other friends to focus on. It could be the natural break we are looking for.

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AnxiousAnnie7583127 · 03/05/2024 07:11

Pantaloons99 · 26/04/2024 23:51

Hey Annie, I don't have much advice but understand the dilemma. My son is Autistic/ ADHD. Much younger though.
I think the only way to interrupt this relationship is to somehow make it difficult without your son knowing. How else can you address it. I also imagine your son won't hear you if you advise him to stay away from this person and will just go along with it anyway. I'm thinking this Robbie character may be Neurodivergent himself? If he isn't, that would make me more concerned I guess .
You can't exactly say you're not allowed to hang out with him to your son either I imagine.

I'm no fan of Facebook but there's a group called Ask Autistic Adults or something like that. I think you'd get much better advice there Often there's a wide mix of responses so it can really help alot in guiding you as mum whilst understanding it better from the perspective of your son.

Edited

Thank you so much for your support and suggestions. It seems my DS is coming around but is scared to defy Robbie.
Yes I think R is neurodivergent but a complete opposite in personality to my mild mannered DS. He knows he can throw his weight around and no one stands up to him. The good news is that DS has started to see just this week that some friends are having the same issue. He'd previously thought that if he didn't do as R said, no one would like him. It's hard but I'm feeling more positive.

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AnxiousAnnie7583127 · 03/05/2024 07:13

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 26/04/2024 23:53

Would he agree to see a counsellor? I'm thinking of the art of asking the right questions. Maybe you can do that a bit yourself. Ask him why he thinks Robbie does this or that, what would he do in the same situation, what wouldn't another friend do? You can't tell him, he needs to figure it out for himself. I hope I've made sense.

That's a good idea. He needs to see it for himself I do agree. I think the light bulb is slowly starting to go off in his mind but he doesn't really know how to fix the situation or distance himself without any fallout.

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