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Insane neighbour

44 replies

bananahammok · 26/04/2024 00:18

I live in a flat on the first floor. The area I live in is not very safe. It's well known for crime... I'm sure if you have an area in London in mind, you've probably guessed correctly.
In my previous flat someone once kicked my door in. I never found out who.
I got a ring doorbell.

In my current flat I have installed my camera on the wall right next to my door. It was originally on my door but by putting it on the side I can still see the stairs but gives my adjacent neighbour privacy. My neighbour also has one now in the same position.

We have another neighbour that lives above me and regularly shouts things at our cameras. She calls us intrusive.

One of the main reasons I will never take it down is because of how she's been harassing me. She does things like write nasty messages about me and slams them h door at 11pm when my kids are asleep. Or she sticks them in the corridor. Recently I caught her calling me an effing b for literally no reason. I hadn't spoken to her in ages and in the footage you see me going in to the house and as soon as I get in she starts calling me names.

The camera is never coming down cos of this scary behaviour. But do you think I'm also intrusive?

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Pheasantsmate · 26/04/2024 13:39

bananahammok · 26/04/2024 13:05

Funnily enough... neighbour also has one but it's on her door which still would capture us all. Except we don't have a need to go on her floor. But she has neighbours above. So why is it intrusive for us but not her?

Well why didn’t you put this incredibly pertinent bit of information in your original post. Talk about a drip feed.

Neveralonewithaclone · 26/04/2024 13:45

I'd invest in a security grille inside the door instead. It prevents you needing to record people breaking in, because they can't break in.

bananahammok · 26/04/2024 19:02

Whatsitcalled38 · 26/04/2024 09:53

You're not actually recording their home though. You're filming a public hallway. No different to people in houses recording the public walkway in their ring doorbell cameras.

Their behaviour is reinforcing that you need the security.

Exactly. There are also other people in the building who have other cameras. There's 2 families that have cameras in their balconies. Both facing the road where we park and leading to the building

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bananahammok · 26/04/2024 19:03

@Pheasantsmate because I know that with that info it's clear she's being unreasonable. But I wanted to first know what people thought without it.

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MsFaversham · 26/04/2024 19:13

MumChp · 26/04/2024 00:59

But it's not a private hallway and you haven't obtained permission to film your neighbours or their guests.

This. I would be very unhappy with a camera in the hall as it is a shared space. All guidance is that you should avoid doing that.

Revelatio · 26/04/2024 19:14

Can you position it so it looks down to the person on the doorstep and not capture people that go past?

I’m more interested in where you think others would think is a high crime area and it would be such a universal opinion! Brixton? Somers Town? Homerton? East Ham? Walworth?

Noseybookworm · 30/04/2024 10:45

Who owns the building? Do you have their permission to put up a camera in the communal area? I don't know what the law is on this but I would have thought you would have to get permission from the building owner (local council?) to put up a camera in a communal hallway.

TubeScreamer · 30/04/2024 18:09

It is illegal to do what you’re doing. Totally understand why you would want to, of course.

Volpini · 30/04/2024 18:49

Revelatio · 26/04/2024 19:14

Can you position it so it looks down to the person on the doorstep and not capture people that go past?

I’m more interested in where you think others would think is a high crime area and it would be such a universal opinion! Brixton? Somers Town? Homerton? East Ham? Walworth?

Peckham ;-)

PonyPatter44 · 30/04/2024 18:52

Westminster is an utter shithole, and the World's End estate in Chelsea is dodgy as. Most of London has grotty bits literally two streets away from really nice bits.

Hagbard · 30/04/2024 19:10

Broadwater farm?

People are really embracing the age of surveillance, aren't they 😂

maccydeer · 30/04/2024 19:16

To be honest, I think the only people worried about being caught on cameras are those that have something to hide.

Nettie1964 · 30/04/2024 19:18

I have so conflicted on this. It wouldn't bother me personally but then I am going about my normal daily business. We are on cctv all the time our phones track us. It's all a bit depressing really.

H1llfields5 · 30/04/2024 20:08

My son put a camera up trained on his doorway after years of harassment by his strange next door neighbour. The police were called many times and accusations were made which ended in court. He dud it to protect himself and the police saw the video.

I don't have a ring doorbell but I wish I did when a ninja air fryer disappeared from the doorstep whereAmazondeliveryleft it - without handing it over. I wish I could have seen what happened.
And I feel it's absolutely shocking that we are constantly under surveillance. As that reality TV programme showed.

Zodfa · 30/04/2024 22:10

Being filmed every time you enter or leave your home, by someone who knows you personally and knows where you live, is very intrusive. It's on a whole different level from being caught on Tesco's CCTV when you go for your weekly shop. And you can have higher confidence that Tesco are following the law in how they make use of the recordings, too.

azlazee1 · 01/05/2024 00:24

If someone had kicked in my door, I would buy one immediately. Anyone with common sense knows these camera's are for protection and identification of potential criminals. I see video's almost daily of unknown people checking out someone's home or stealing packages from doorways. Don't apologize, be safe.

Louise303 · 01/05/2024 04:01

Always download videos of any bad behaviour I know how it feels we have a very strange neighbour.We are semi thankfully she is not the neighbour we share a wall with. Music all night when we asked for it to be tuned down they would blare out the songs silence is golden and the sound of silence. She would not talk or say hello from day one we heard she was moved there quickly and may have had a problem with a previous neighbour. Its terrible when you get neighbours like this.

henlake7 · 01/05/2024 04:18

Its only intrusive if it is positioned to only film the neighbours property....and its only illegal if you make the recordings publically available.
It sounds fine to me. My security camera covers my back garden and all of my neighbours garden as welL (which really pisses him off as he likes to flick me the odd rude hand gesture!).
However Ive shown recordings to the police before when he was playing with a gun outside and they have never had a problem with it. Also the threat of being recorded has stopped him throwing his own shit in my garden annymore so Im ok with invading his privacy!!LOL

andfinallyhereweare · 01/05/2024 07:35

Tottenham?

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