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To think if a pharmacist refuses to dispense medication due to religious or personal beliefs

313 replies

Soubriquet · 24/04/2024 10:11

They shouldn’t be a pharmacist.

I mean, the morning after pill is healthcare. Your personal or religious beliefs shouldn’t come into this.

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Baconisdelicious · 29/04/2024 18:18

I is this even a thing ?

Sadly, yes. I experienced it about 20 years ago in my 30s living in London andcwas denied the MAP. Fortunately, finding another pharmacy in London wasn't hard. Far harder in smaller communities .

ditalini · 29/04/2024 18:23

wombat15 · 29/04/2024 18:01

I think they know about the biology. Regardless of whether it is called abortion, they presumably believe that life begins when the egg is fertilised.

No reputable organisation still suggests that the MAP prevents implantation. It ONLY prevents fertilisation.

It is the case that its mechanism wasn't well understood and there was a theory that it also could prevent implantation. That's no longer true.

If you've already ovulated then the MAP won't work, but obviously you still might not conceive since not all unprotected sex results in pregnancy.

Having a coil fitted can prevent implantation of a fertilised egg. That's a completely different thing though.

Baconisdelicious · 29/04/2024 18:46

The vast majority of women have never needed the MAP and the number of pharmacists who won’t dispense it is miniscule

How can you say that with any conviction? I would hazard a guess a majority of women have used the MAP at some point. I can't imagine there are many pharmacists who won't dispense but even a small number can cause significant problems with the numbers they deal with daily, weekly, monthly.

Baconisdelicious · 29/04/2024 18:49

A quick Google shows: one in five British women between 18 and 35 takes the morning after pill each year. That's not really a vast majority, is it?

BIossomtoes · 29/04/2024 18:52

Baconisdelicious · 29/04/2024 18:49

A quick Google shows: one in five British women between 18 and 35 takes the morning after pill each year. That's not really a vast majority, is it?

It means 80% don’t. You’re absolutely right 20% isn’t a vast majority.

AccountCreateUsername · 29/04/2024 18:56

Baconisdelicious · 29/04/2024 18:46

The vast majority of women have never needed the MAP and the number of pharmacists who won’t dispense it is miniscule

How can you say that with any conviction? I would hazard a guess a majority of women have used the MAP at some point. I can't imagine there are many pharmacists who won't dispense but even a small number can cause significant problems with the numbers they deal with daily, weekly, monthly.

There’s guidance / policy 🤷 from the GPhC about this very scenario. The patient’s needs always come first. The GPhC would want to know that any pharmacist refusing to sell the MAP have followed those guidelines if there were a complaint.

https://www.pharmacyregulation.org/about-us/news-and-updates/regulate/religion-personal-values-and-beliefs-providing-emergency-hormonal-contraception

Religion, personal values and beliefs: providing emergency hormonal contraception | General Pharmaceutical Council

A pharmacy professional’s religion, personal values and beliefs can play an important part in their life and make a positive contribution to their work and the care they provide. However, in some cases, these personal values and beliefs could affect th...

https://www.pharmacyregulation.org/about-us/news-and-updates/regulate/religion-personal-values-and-beliefs-providing-emergency-hormonal-contraception

UpsideDownSomewhere · 29/04/2024 19:16

AccountCreateUsername · 29/04/2024 18:56

There’s guidance / policy 🤷 from the GPhC about this very scenario. The patient’s needs always come first. The GPhC would want to know that any pharmacist refusing to sell the MAP have followed those guidelines if there were a complaint.

https://www.pharmacyregulation.org/about-us/news-and-updates/regulate/religion-personal-values-and-beliefs-providing-emergency-hormonal-contraception

Have you actually read it though? Lots of talk of person centred care, equality and diversity, respecting others beliefs and values; all very nice inclusive fluffy sounding phrases that don't actually mean anything. I war hoping for something a little more substantial!

AccountCreateUsername · 29/04/2024 23:14

UpsideDownSomewhere · 29/04/2024 19:16

Have you actually read it though? Lots of talk of person centred care, equality and diversity, respecting others beliefs and values; all very nice inclusive fluffy sounding phrases that don't actually mean anything. I war hoping for something a little more substantial!

You won’t get anything more definitive from the GPhC I’m afraid :/ if any patient has been inconvenienced or their treatment delayed that’s a huge fuck up and I’d report it. But I’ve lost my place on what actually happened so I’ll read the OP again before I add anything else to the thread 😅

Baconisdelicious · 30/04/2024 08:55

BIossomtoes · 29/04/2024 18:52

It means 80% don’t. You’re absolutely right 20% isn’t a vast majority.

80% don't in any given year. I can't find anything about the numbers who might use the MAP from 18 to menopause.

wombat15 · 30/04/2024 09:01

I don't believe 20% of women are receiving the MAP every single year.

ButterCrackers · 30/04/2024 09:11

wombat15 · 30/04/2024 09:01

I don't believe 20% of women are receiving the MAP every single year.

Agree. If that was true surely an information campaign would be launched to educate men about using a condom. This should happen in any case. Why don’t some men take responsibility for their actions.

innerdesign · 30/04/2024 09:26

Baconisdelicious · 29/04/2024 18:49

A quick Google shows: one in five British women between 18 and 35 takes the morning after pill each year. That's not really a vast majority, is it?

This stat appears to be from a survey conducted by the manufacturer of EllaOne. Some bias could be suspected. CDC reference here that I believe would be more reliable, although American. "Among women aged 22–49 years who have ever had sexual intercourse, 24.3% have ever used emergency contraception". That stat sounds far more realistic.

wombat15 · 30/04/2024 10:32

innerdesign · 30/04/2024 09:26

This stat appears to be from a survey conducted by the manufacturer of EllaOne. Some bias could be suspected. CDC reference here that I believe would be more reliable, although American. "Among women aged 22–49 years who have ever had sexual intercourse, 24.3% have ever used emergency contraception". That stat sounds far more realistic.

Yes, I think that statistic is much more likely.

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