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AIBU?

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To not facilitate contact with his family?

18 replies

IcedCoffeePlease96 · 23/04/2024 23:40

I have an 8 year old DD. We haven’t seen her dad (and my ex-husband) for the last 2 years following a court case where CAFCASS and the judge said that direct contact was not safe given quite a long and severe DA/DV history.

I also raised concerns about immediate members of his family (they enable his abusive behaviour, allow it to happen in front of the children in the family, have acted aggressive towards me in front of my DD and the list goes on) which means that DD hasn’t seen them either for quite a lengthy amount of time.

Just recently him and his family have asked me to facilitate contact between DD and his family members (not himself as he knows this is a court issue). I have point blank said no, it’s not happening and if he wants his family to have contact with DD then he needs to take the issue back to court for them to assess and decide.

My reasoning was that I still have these safeguarding concerns, I don’t want to get involved as they are his family and they are not my responsibility (I facilitated the relationship between them and DD for years and still got abusive behaviour from them). DD also has additional needs and it would likely be very overwhelming for her given that there’s been no contact for years and if the court ever did allow it, it would need very careful management for her to cope with the change.

DD has never been very close to them anyway due to living 2-3 hours away and when they was allowed, they barely made the effort to see her anyway (probably 2-3 times a year). DD wouldn’t know them if you showed her a photo and never asks about them or for them so she doesn’t feel like she’s missing out or missing them, as harsh as that sounds.

Of course, my ex-husband then blamed me for this and made out like I was being very difficult and that DD having a relationship with his family is ‘inevitable’ so I might as well start somewhere with them…

AIBU for sticking with my guns, saying no and letting them go back to court if they want to?

OP posts:
Scarletttulips · 23/04/2024 23:42

Not at all. They don’t have rights.

What’s to stop her father contacting her during her family visits etc

But then why are you even communicating with him?

IcedCoffeePlease96 · 23/04/2024 23:44

Scarletttulips · 23/04/2024 23:42

Not at all. They don’t have rights.

What’s to stop her father contacting her during her family visits etc

But then why are you even communicating with him?

That’s another thing I don’t trust them about - bringing him during visits - as they once brought him to my house when there was an active injunction that they knew about too…

He is allowed to contact me via phone as our non-molestation order ran out, so I basically have to wait for him to be abusive again to get another one. I can block his number but then he can contact me off a family member’s phone

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Scarletttulips · 23/04/2024 23:46

He can only contact you if you answer - change your phone number? change your email address. If he wants to go to court they can find you.

No court will grant access to family members, grand parents who look after children 3 times a week aren’t automatically given access.

Stop letting him in and stop him getting in your head -

IcedCoffeePlease96 · 23/04/2024 23:50

Scarletttulips · 23/04/2024 23:46

He can only contact you if you answer - change your phone number? change your email address. If he wants to go to court they can find you.

No court will grant access to family members, grand parents who look after children 3 times a week aren’t automatically given access.

Stop letting him in and stop him getting in your head -

I’ve had to do that so many times that it becomes unfair on me to keep having to update everything all of the time - it’s easier to just ignore him and let him talk to himself.

Oh yeah, I feel reassured that they wouldn’t get access via the courts, especially given their history but I’m very happy for them to waste their time and money trying!

The grandparents - one abuses medication, the other is also violent and a wife beater. One of the siblings abuses their spouse and the other is a complete homophobic who actively teaches their child to be one too…

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beAsensible1 · 23/04/2024 23:53

You don’t need to justify your reasoning to us. If they’re desperate let it go to court.

keeping blocking his numbers. Every single time.

Desperatelyneedabreak · 23/04/2024 23:54

He hasn't seen your child in 2 years not sure why you are still in contact with him/ them tbh. Just block them and change your number.

IcedCoffeePlease96 · 23/04/2024 23:55

Desperatelyneedabreak · 23/04/2024 23:54

He hasn't seen your child in 2 years not sure why you are still in contact with him/ them tbh. Just block them and change your number.

I didn’t have contact with them for a long time, until he figured out that the injunction ran out. I don’t want to keep going through the hassle of changing my number so it’ll have to be a block every number situation instead from now on

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BruFord · 23/04/2024 23:55

If you receive a call from a number that you don’t recognize, let it go to voicemail.

You’ll soon work out which are their numbers and then block them as well.

Kittenkitty · 24/04/2024 06:30

Yeah drag it out as long as you can, if it does eventually happen which hopefully it won’t, then your daughter will be older and better placed to deal with any bad behaviour and communicate with you.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 24/04/2024 06:35

You are absolutely not being unreasonable. These people are not trustworthy. I think it's very likely that your ex plans on seeing your DD at his family's house. Stick to your guns.

Noicant · 24/04/2024 06:37

They sound fucking awful, you have no obligation to facilitate contact with them.

GerbilsForever24 · 24/04/2024 06:41

Awful. Just a guess - theybwant contact but they have never sent so much as a birthday card?

Just keep ignoring. You are not wrong.

LoveWine123 · 24/04/2024 07:21

Protect your child and keep her away from them. Block the ex.

bradpittsbathwater · 24/04/2024 07:21

You and your daughter aren't safe around these things. Block and keep a record of any contact.

bradpittsbathwater · 24/04/2024 07:24

I can't believe you're even asking tbh

Time4achangeithink · 24/04/2024 07:30

Scarletttulips · 23/04/2024 23:42

Not at all. They don’t have rights.

What’s to stop her father contacting her during her family visits etc

But then why are you even communicating with him?

But then why are you even communicating with him?

She was asked a question by them, she answered it.

🙄

patchworkpal · 24/04/2024 07:31

IcedCoffeePlease96 · 23/04/2024 23:44

That’s another thing I don’t trust them about - bringing him during visits - as they once brought him to my house when there was an active injunction that they knew about too…

He is allowed to contact me via phone as our non-molestation order ran out, so I basically have to wait for him to be abusive again to get another one. I can block his number but then he can contact me off a family member’s phone

Let him go to court. Bring this up

Noseybookworm · 24/04/2024 08:33

IcedCoffeePlease96 · 23/04/2024 23:44

That’s another thing I don’t trust them about - bringing him during visits - as they once brought him to my house when there was an active injunction that they knew about too…

He is allowed to contact me via phone as our non-molestation order ran out, so I basically have to wait for him to be abusive again to get another one. I can block his number but then he can contact me off a family member’s phone

I would definitely be concerned that his family members might secretly give him access to your DD on visits. You have done absolutely the right thing. They have no legal rights to contact with your child. I suspect this is just another attempt by your ex to exert power and control over you. Block his number and don't answer calls from unknown numbers so you can screen out calls from his family. If he/they continue to try and harass you, report him to police.

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