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To think cat owners are unreasonable for insisting that drivers MUST stop if they hit a cat?

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OtterlyMad · 22/04/2024 18:55

Some of the people on my town’s Facebook page lose their minds when a cat is killed by a car. It’s automatically blamed on speeding (despite there being no evidence of this) and there are always lots of comments along the lines of how “disgusting” it is that the driver didn’t stop and make the owner aware.

None of them seem to appreciate that the driver might not have time to track down the owner. For example, perhaps they are on their way to work, a job interview, wedding, funeral, court, airport, hospital, dentist, client meeting, school pick up, etc. Plus cats can wander quite far and don’t all wear collars so tracking down the owner could be a real challenge - even more so if driver isn’t local to the area!

Obviously it’s devastating for people to lose their pet in this way (I’m an animal lover and have owned pets all my life so I get it) but surely this is a known risk of allowing cats to roam freely? And owners accept that risk because they feel it gives their cat a better quality of life, even if that means their life is shorter as a result?

My locals are now campaigning to make it law that drivers who hit a cat must not only stop and find the owner, but also HAND OVER THEIR CONTACT DETAILS. To do what with?! So the cat’s owner can give the driver grief and/or demand compensation they’re not entitled to???

Am I the only one thinking this is ludicrous?

You are being unreasonable - drivers should be required to stop, track down the owner of the cat and hand over their contact details.

You are not being unreasonable - injury/death by vehicle is a sad but accepted risk of cats having the right to roam so drivers should not be required to stop.

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LameBorzoi · 23/04/2024 12:47

nonumbersinthisname · 23/04/2024 12:44

Yes they do need that stimulation actually. And it is not illegal to let a cat outside anywhere in the UK, where cats have been domesticated for centuries, and have long performed a useful function in households, namely pest control, as well as providing companionship.

places where it’s not as common to let a cat outside include the USA. Mainly because the native wildlife in most parts of that country are a lot more dangerous to cats than the native wildlife of the UK, where foxes are the main hazard. It used to be common for American cat owners to get their cats declawed to prevent a bored indoor cat from damaging the house and the owner, which is illegal in the UK. So referencing how “other places” manage their cats isn’t really applicable to the this conversation.

In Australia, there are towns in which they are not allowed outside due to the damage they do to the wildlife. In those towns, people are just expected to build outside runs and provide stimulation. Declawing is illegal.

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:48

nonumbersinthisname · 23/04/2024 12:44

Yes they do need that stimulation actually. And it is not illegal to let a cat outside anywhere in the UK, where cats have been domesticated for centuries, and have long performed a useful function in households, namely pest control, as well as providing companionship.

places where it’s not as common to let a cat outside include the USA. Mainly because the native wildlife in most parts of that country are a lot more dangerous to cats than the native wildlife of the UK, where foxes are the main hazard. It used to be common for American cat owners to get their cats declawed to prevent a bored indoor cat from damaging the house and the owner, which is illegal in the UK. So referencing how “other places” manage their cats isn’t really applicable to the this conversation.

That’s not correct. There are plenty of places, including locations in America, with laws against free roaming cats. And it’s never to do with the cats own safety!!

In Australia they’re actively poisoning cats because of the sheer damage they cause. It’s not ok to let your pet out to kill things. If you would t kill birds yourself, why do you send your cat out to do it?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/28/australia-to-kill-feral-cats-with-laser-shoots-toxic-goo/

Toxic goo laser kills Australia’s feral cats

Humane device targets voracious predator that is devastating native animals, say officials

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/28/australia-to-kill-feral-cats-with-laser-shoots-toxic-goo/

nonumbersinthisname · 23/04/2024 12:49

The UK is not Australia

LameBorzoi · 23/04/2024 12:50

nonumbersinthisname · 23/04/2024 12:49

The UK is not Australia

The cats are the same. Australian cats don't need less stimulation than UK cats.

ThisOldThang · 23/04/2024 12:51

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:48

That’s not correct. There are plenty of places, including locations in America, with laws against free roaming cats. And it’s never to do with the cats own safety!!

In Australia they’re actively poisoning cats because of the sheer damage they cause. It’s not ok to let your pet out to kill things. If you would t kill birds yourself, why do you send your cat out to do it?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/28/australia-to-kill-feral-cats-with-laser-shoots-toxic-goo/

I'd like to see this approach in the UK.

Redherringgull · 23/04/2024 12:52

XenoBitch · 23/04/2024 12:45

How am I meant to get a thrashing seagull to a vet... on a bike?

If you hit a petrel rather than a seagull you could just use it to fill up your tank!

LameBorzoi · 23/04/2024 12:53

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 23/04/2024 12:38

So after you’d pointlessly called the RSPCA, if you even managed to get through to them because the last time I called I was on hold for an hour, you would leave an injured cat to suffer horrendously on the side of the road, also leaving it vulnerable to being hit again? Because you were just passing through? Or had a ‘nervous passenger’, whatever that means? Or because you don’t know where a vet is, even though you can easily type ‘vet’ into Google maps?

WTAF am I reading. This is one of the most depressing threads I’ve ever read.

Hmm. A very injured cat could be wrapped in a towel or something. I do wonder what I'd do with an angry, mobile cat. I don't think you could drive with it unrestrained.

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:54

ThisOldThang · 23/04/2024 12:51

I'd like to see this approach in the UK.

I’d like to see the law updated in the UK to bring us into the 21st century. There’s simply no excuse for letting pets free roam and it needs to be made the same for cats as for dogs.

It’s not ok to put the cats at risk being outside unsupervised. It’s not ok to put wildlife at risk. It’s not ok to put other people’s animals at risk. It’s not ok to impose your pet on people who don’t want it on their property, leaving piles of shit everywhere.

If you want a pet, you need to take the appropriate responsibility for looking after its safety, taking account for its actions and clearing up after it. If you aren’t willing, you’re not responsible enough to own a pet.

PurpleBugz · 23/04/2024 12:54

I'm in the keep cars in doors camp. Or contained in your own garden. They dig up my flowers shit in my allotment. Kill the birds we feed. One on our street can open the food bins and will do that regularly. Next door has multiple cat one always trying to get in my house, i can't leave back door open in the summer or it's on my bed (we have allergies in this house?). F**king horrible things.

Wellhellooooodear · 23/04/2024 12:55

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:54

I’d like to see the law updated in the UK to bring us into the 21st century. There’s simply no excuse for letting pets free roam and it needs to be made the same for cats as for dogs.

It’s not ok to put the cats at risk being outside unsupervised. It’s not ok to put wildlife at risk. It’s not ok to put other people’s animals at risk. It’s not ok to impose your pet on people who don’t want it on their property, leaving piles of shit everywhere.

If you want a pet, you need to take the appropriate responsibility for looking after its safety, taking account for its actions and clearing up after it. If you aren’t willing, you’re not responsible enough to own a pet.

Cats should not be kept indoors.

crumbledog · 23/04/2024 12:55

XenoBitch · 23/04/2024 12:45

How am I meant to get a thrashing seagull to a vet... on a bike?

You don’t. Google some local bird rescues /rspca and inform them of its whereabouts. If it’s local go back with something/ someone to help.

LaCouleurDeMonCiel · 23/04/2024 12:56

It goes hand in hand with right to roam.
To the people trying to argue cats should be treated the same as children: nobody lets their small child cross streets alone and without having taught them to look both ways etc. even then, we ‘train’ them for years before letting them do it on their own.
If you choose to let your pet out when you know there is a fairly high risk of them crossing a street and being hit don’t put the onus on the driver - who didn’t do anything wrong - to do something about it.

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:57

nonumbersinthisname · 23/04/2024 12:49

The UK is not Australia

Correct, Australians have more brains and guts to do something to protect their wildlife! We still have a lot of precious wildlife being killed in their millions by cats “for fun”.

If I had a dog that regularly came into your garden and tore your cat to shreds and left the remains for you to find, you’d be pissed, right? So why’s it ok for your cat to be on my property doing that to my much loved animals that are secure on my own land?

It’s awful and selfish. If your cat wants to be outside, lead train it. Build it a catio. If you think that’s not good enough, then don’t keep a cat.

bluetopazlove · 23/04/2024 12:58

Devilshands · 23/04/2024 09:40

I’ve hit a cat before - killed it instantly.

Stopped, grabbed the body and took it to the vets. Later that day I get a phone call from the owner demanding that I ‘pay’ them for the cost of the sodding cremation - the vets (my old practice) had shared my contact details (without permission). I ended up having to block multiple numbers from the deranged owner asking that I pay for the cremation.

I’d never stop again - both because I don’t trust the owners not to go mental and I don’t trust the vets not to share my details (despite it being a huge GDPR breach).

Bloody hell ! The absolute entitlement of cat owners who do absolutely nothing to ensure their animal does nothing to inconvenience other home owners , pet owners (guinea pigs, rabbits even aviaries )
Other people should not have to look after your pet , we're to busy making sure your pet is not a nuisance to us .
Take some fricking responsibility for your own pet .

crumbledog · 23/04/2024 12:58

LaCouleurDeMonCiel · 23/04/2024 12:56

It goes hand in hand with right to roam.
To the people trying to argue cats should be treated the same as children: nobody lets their small child cross streets alone and without having taught them to look both ways etc. even then, we ‘train’ them for years before letting them do it on their own.
If you choose to let your pet out when you know there is a fairly high risk of them crossing a street and being hit don’t put the onus on the driver - who didn’t do anything wrong - to do something about it.

People do let small children play in areas of low traffic. I live in an area of low traffic, so I let my cats out.

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:59

Wellhellooooodear · 23/04/2024 12:55

Cats should not be kept indoors.

Cats should not be free to roam. Build them a catio or lead train them.

If you can’t be bothered then don’t have a cat. It doesn’t alter the fact that it’s indefensible to allow them to free roam.

Redherringgull · 23/04/2024 12:59

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:57

Correct, Australians have more brains and guts to do something to protect their wildlife! We still have a lot of precious wildlife being killed in their millions by cats “for fun”.

If I had a dog that regularly came into your garden and tore your cat to shreds and left the remains for you to find, you’d be pissed, right? So why’s it ok for your cat to be on my property doing that to my much loved animals that are secure on my own land?

It’s awful and selfish. If your cat wants to be outside, lead train it. Build it a catio. If you think that’s not good enough, then don’t keep a cat.

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Hear, hear!

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:59

crumbledog · 23/04/2024 12:58

People do let small children play in areas of low traffic. I live in an area of low traffic, so I let my cats out.

But fuck everyone else, right? 😂

Purplebunnie · 23/04/2024 12:59

pelotonaddiction · 23/04/2024 00:53

People just drive like idiots sometimes
Tonight someone has hit and killed 3 baby ducklings flying down the road which gets used as a racetrack
Yes sometimes it can't be avoided but it's a 20mph road and now the mother duck is by the side of the road and won't leave

Damn it this reminded me of the ducks on the road I used to drive down. I was on the way to go for a mammogram. They weren't on the road, just on the edge some twat was obviously too close to the edge and had killed them - three of them lying there it was awful. I remember crying all the way into town and the woman not being particular sympathetic to the sobbing mess that arrived in her porta cabin

LameBorzoi · 23/04/2024 12:59

Wellhellooooodear · 23/04/2024 12:55

Cats should not be kept indoors.

RSPCA recommends that cats should be kept contained.

crumbledog · 23/04/2024 13:00

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:59

But fuck everyone else, right? 😂

Pretty much your attitude as well. Touché

CatamaranViper · 23/04/2024 13:00

ThisOldThang · 23/04/2024 12:44

Is that a nationwide official policy? Please share a link if that's the case.

https://www.cats.org.uk/wolverhampton/lost-and-found/if-you-find-a-cat

If you find a cat

If you find a cat

https://www.cats.org.uk/wolverhampton/lost-and-found/if-you-find-a-cat

crumbledog · 23/04/2024 13:01

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:59

But fuck everyone else, right? 😂

Pretty much suspect it more than cat shit making you miserable.

Wellhellooooodear · 23/04/2024 13:01

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 12:59

Cats should not be free to roam. Build them a catio or lead train them.

If you can’t be bothered then don’t have a cat. It doesn’t alter the fact that it’s indefensible to allow them to free roam.

You're ridiculous

ZetuianRose · 23/04/2024 13:01

crumbledog · 23/04/2024 13:00

Pretty much your attitude as well. Touché

In what sense? Your comment makes no sense at all.

Im advocating for EVERYONE to be safe and happy, not JUST cats and their feckless owners.