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To think cat owners are unreasonable for insisting that drivers MUST stop if they hit a cat?

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OtterlyMad · 22/04/2024 18:55

Some of the people on my town’s Facebook page lose their minds when a cat is killed by a car. It’s automatically blamed on speeding (despite there being no evidence of this) and there are always lots of comments along the lines of how “disgusting” it is that the driver didn’t stop and make the owner aware.

None of them seem to appreciate that the driver might not have time to track down the owner. For example, perhaps they are on their way to work, a job interview, wedding, funeral, court, airport, hospital, dentist, client meeting, school pick up, etc. Plus cats can wander quite far and don’t all wear collars so tracking down the owner could be a real challenge - even more so if driver isn’t local to the area!

Obviously it’s devastating for people to lose their pet in this way (I’m an animal lover and have owned pets all my life so I get it) but surely this is a known risk of allowing cats to roam freely? And owners accept that risk because they feel it gives their cat a better quality of life, even if that means their life is shorter as a result?

My locals are now campaigning to make it law that drivers who hit a cat must not only stop and find the owner, but also HAND OVER THEIR CONTACT DETAILS. To do what with?! So the cat’s owner can give the driver grief and/or demand compensation they’re not entitled to???

Am I the only one thinking this is ludicrous?

You are being unreasonable - drivers should be required to stop, track down the owner of the cat and hand over their contact details.

You are not being unreasonable - injury/death by vehicle is a sad but accepted risk of cats having the right to roam so drivers should not be required to stop.

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Runnerinthenight · 22/04/2024 23:41

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 22/04/2024 22:54

No. Murder is the intentional killing of a human without lawful excuse. Killing a cat might be cruel (it might not be of course) but it can’t ever be murder.

Pest controllers, for example, are not mass murderers.

It's the same intention. I can't think of any situation where killing a cat isn't cruel. Pest controllers don't tend to kill cats en masse.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 22/04/2024 23:46

Runnerinthenight · 22/04/2024 23:41

It's the same intention. I can't think of any situation where killing a cat isn't cruel. Pest controllers don't tend to kill cats en masse.

Vets put down cats don’t they? That’s not cruelty. No person can lawfully intentionally kill another person, except in genuine self-defence.

Why is killing a cat different to killing a rat or a mouse? Pest controllers kill many rats and mice.

ohthejoys21 · 22/04/2024 23:48

CremeEggThief · 22/04/2024 19:12

YABU. But I am someone who FAR prefers most animals to most humans and doesn't believe humans are superior to other animals. So you and I would probably never agree.

I agree with you. Suffering is suffering.

Ncncncncc · 22/04/2024 23:57

If I hit and injured any animal, I’d stop. I’m not sure how you could go on with your day not knowing if they were lying in pain, slowly dying.

I question the morals of those who wouldn’t.

DougJudysSisterTrudiesDog · 22/04/2024 23:58

Newname71 · 22/04/2024 19:16

I stopped on quite a busy road to pick up an injured cat. Everyone else was just driving round it. A couple of drivers gave me abuse for causing a bit of a tailback. I took him to the vets and heard from the owner a few hours later that he didn’t make it. She was so grateful that he hadn’t died alone in the road 😢

There was a famous case in Canada a few years ago where a woman stopped her car in a highway lane to let a duck family go by. Three motorcyclists couldn’t stop their bikes, got in a pile up and died. She was convicted of criminal negligence causing death.

OneTC · 23/04/2024 00:00

I'd have to stop to check it's condition anyway. If it was wearing a collar I'd contact the owner, if it wasn't I'd take it to a vet to be scanned.

I like animals.

I don't think it should be law, just common decency

LovePoppy · 23/04/2024 00:06

TuesdayWhistler · 22/04/2024 19:16

Fuck anyone who hurts a cat or any pet and doesn't go to the ends of the earth to find the owners and make it as right as they can.

Fuck them. They're fucking awful people.
You hurt a pet, you do your damnedest to make it as right as you can..

To you it may just be a cat or a dog, to the owners, it's a part of their family and screw you for hurting a member of someone's family and not doing your best to make it right.

You know how to avoid this, right?

Dont let your animal roam unattended.

Your anger is extremely misplaced. If you love your pet, care for them properly and don’t let them wander only to blame others if accidents happen

Magnastorm · 23/04/2024 00:12

Obviously there are situations where it won't be safe to stop.

But if it is, it takes a dickhead of the highest order to hit an animal and just drive off without any attempt to help it.

Remaker · 23/04/2024 00:13

I think a compromise position probably exists. I don’t think there should be any necessity to leave your contact details. However your list of important reasons why someone couldn’t stop is completely batshit. We don’t avoid having traffic laws because someone might be on an important journey. How many times in an ordinary person’s life would they be risking contempt of court FFS?

It has been an eye opening discussion for me however. I’ve been driving for almost 40 years and not only have I never hit a cat, I don’t think I’ve seen a dead cat on the side of the road. I’ve seen lots of squashed native animals but not cats. I live in Australia where there is far less tolerance of cats roaming and in some areas it’s illegal overnight. Microchips are compulsory here too. I have two much loved indoor cats who live a very happy life. The possums and lizards who live in our backyard also live safely as a result. Cockroaches and indoor spiders take their chances.

If I ever hit an animal I would stop unless I was seriously endangering myself to do so.

Schnauzersaremyheros · 23/04/2024 00:15

BlossomToLeaves · 22/04/2024 21:12

How, practically, should someone deal with a cat they've hit? I've never had it happen to me, nor have I ever owned cats. If I hit a cat that seems injured or in pain - would you try to pick it up? Wrap it in a blanket or something? Transport it somehow in the car (I'm alone in the car most of the time so no-one to help)? Phone a vet to see if someone would come out and collect it? Presumably I could google a vet that might be in some nearby town or village, depending on where it happened, but are there designated late-night/all night vets? (I'm assuming it's likely to happen more at night). I would want to try to stop and help if I could and if it seemed safe to stop, but I've never really dealt with injured cats before and not sure how easy it would be to get it into the car and safely drive! Do cats usually have collars with their owners' phone numbers, or just a chip that has to be scanned by a vet?

This link explains perfectly well what should be done if you unfortunately hit someone's beloved cat
https://www.catsmatter.org/if-you-hit-a-cat

CatsMatter - What to do if You Hit a Cat

Learn what to do if you hit a cat whilst driving, including how to report the incident and where to take the cat, as well as basic first aid

https://www.catsmatter.org/if-you-hit-a-cat

FuckTheClubUp · 23/04/2024 00:19

MichaelatheMechanic · 22/04/2024 19:13

Hit it and leave it there writhing in pain? Because it's only a cat....

Would you stop for a dog or just not bother?

Would you stop for a child or just not bother?

Why are you comparing a cat with a child?

Banana1979 · 23/04/2024 00:21

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TuesdayWhistler · 23/04/2024 00:26

Your anger is extremely misplaced. If you love your pet, care for them properly and don’t let them wander only to blame others if accidents happen

It isn't anger, it's disgust.
Someone that's hit someone's cat and can't even stop to take it a vet or knock a door or two?
Absolute cunts of the highest order that shouldn't be welcomed in a decent society.
I fact they should be *tickled with vigour with soft fluffy feather dusters

Runnerinthenight · 23/04/2024 00:34

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 22/04/2024 23:46

Vets put down cats don’t they? That’s not cruelty. No person can lawfully intentionally kill another person, except in genuine self-defence.

Why is killing a cat different to killing a rat or a mouse? Pest controllers kill many rats and mice.

It's not cruelty, it's euthansia, mostly.

Cats are not disease-spreading pests, unlike mice and rats. Are you really that ill-informed?!

wintersgold · 23/04/2024 00:36

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wintersgold · 23/04/2024 00:37

FuckTheClubUp · 23/04/2024 00:19

Why are you comparing a cat with a child?

Because both of them are living beings who experience pain.

crumbledog · 23/04/2024 00:37

LovePoppy · 23/04/2024 00:06

You know how to avoid this, right?

Dont let your animal roam unattended.

Your anger is extremely misplaced. If you love your pet, care for them properly and don’t let them wander only to blame others if accidents happen

Not blaming people for accidentally hitting a cat, but anyone that drives off, unless it’s a dire emergency or seriously not safe to stop, is the absolute scourge of the earth and should have any human privileges revoked, because it’s not the behaviour of a decent one.

Runnerinthenight · 23/04/2024 00:44

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In fairness, it's often the cat's fault, not the driver's.

Schnauzersaremyheros · 23/04/2024 00:46

Runnerinthenight · 23/04/2024 00:44

In fairness, it's often the cat's fault, not the driver's.

But it is the drivers fault for not stopping and seeing if they can help the cat (if possible), or at least reporting to someone that they have hit a cat.

Runnerinthenight · 23/04/2024 00:47

Schnauzersaremyheros · 23/04/2024 00:46

But it is the drivers fault for not stopping and seeing if they can help the cat (if possible), or at least reporting to someone that they have hit a cat.

Oh absolutely!

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 23/04/2024 00:49

Runnerinthenight · 23/04/2024 00:34

It's not cruelty, it's euthansia, mostly.

Cats are not disease-spreading pests, unlike mice and rats. Are you really that ill-informed?!

I really don’t see what disease spreading has to do with the definition of ‘murder’ for rats and mice v cats.

Runnerinthenight · 23/04/2024 00:51

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 23/04/2024 00:49

I really don’t see what disease spreading has to do with the definition of ‘murder’ for rats and mice v cats.

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Eh??

pelotonaddiction · 23/04/2024 00:53

People just drive like idiots sometimes
Tonight someone has hit and killed 3 baby ducklings flying down the road which gets used as a racetrack
Yes sometimes it can't be avoided but it's a 20mph road and now the mother duck is by the side of the road and won't leave

Headinthesand21 · 23/04/2024 00:53

frankentall · 22/04/2024 19:22

This is exactly the kind of batshit response the OP was talking about. Thankfully a minority view.
Cats and dogs aren't in any way the same - hence why the law differs.
I hit a cat once, I was doing about 15 mph and the thing appeared from nowhere and ran under my wheels.
I was on the way to collect DD from school.

It's horrible but the flipside of cats right to roam.

Not batshit at all. From the voting, also not a minority view at all.
For many people (and many children), a pet is a precious member of their family. If you hit a cat and don’t stop if you safely can, that is potentially very cruel and very inconsiderate.

Groovy48592747 · 23/04/2024 00:54

I'm a cat owner and I hit a cat once, or rather it came out of nowhere in front of me and I didn't have time to stop.

It was night time, it ran off, there were no houses where I ran over it and I wasn't on social media.

Owners whose cat has been hit don't always know the circumstances. If any of mine were killed I wouldn't automatically blame the driver and post on social media about it.