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To ask what our rights/responsibilities if neighbour removes fence panels?

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victoriasnotsecret · 21/04/2024 13:10

DH and I are wondering what our legal rights are? We had a dispute with the neighbour they behaved illegally and we had to report them to the police. Yesterday the neighbour removed three panels of their fence leaving their garden open to ours. They know that we have two dogs who use the garden. I actually spoke to the neighbour and he told us that he taken them down because we've had to report him to the police.

So we know that he's being underhand but the same time we can't put our dogs out in our garden. He hasn't got the problem with the dogs per se but he has behaviour really aggressively towards us about various things and he's even told us he wants us to move because as he said to me yesterday "a lot our generation messed up his pension ". He then told me he was well off and didn't need to work. He is in his 70s we are in our late 40s and have only just become homeowners- beyond devastated.

OP posts:
MetalFences · 21/04/2024 14:43

Youdontknowmedoyou · 21/04/2024 13:42

You don't have to contain your dogs.
He has to prevent access to his property.

Sure, in Opposite Land at the top of the Faraway Tree. 🌝🌳🧚‍♀️

(I can't believe there in no saucepan emoji)

savoycabbage · 21/04/2024 14:45

I'm being responsible by checking what we should do

Get a real permanent fence. Keep your dogs inside until you've got one.

I've had neighbour issues in the past, you can't predict what they will do when they are acting so irrationally.

tissueboxandcandles · 21/04/2024 14:46

We had a hedge but our neighbour killed it. You can't control what people do from their own garden. It is probably best to put a really sturdy fence up just inside the boundary. With trellis on top and plant some climbing plants.

Soontobe60 · 21/04/2024 14:48

Mnk711 · 21/04/2024 13:14

Just put a temporary fence up on your side and report him to the council, if for no other reason than he may do the same to you if your dogs get into his garden. I'm sorry this has happened to you, it's so stressful.

Report him for what exactly?

Soontobe60 · 21/04/2024 14:51

Skillest · 21/04/2024 13:42

My old neighbour was a dick when we took down our fence.

Us - The fense needs replacing. We are going to replace the fence (on our side if the boundary) with a hedge this summer. Just letting you know.

Them - we want a fence, not a hedge.

Us - OK. We are happy to not plant a hedge if you want to replace the fence with a new fense instead.

Them - It's your fence. You need to pay for it.

Us - No. We want a hedge instead. We are replacing the fence with a hedge and will pay for the hedge plants.

Them - We want a fense.

Us - I know. We want a hedge but will tolerate a fense if you sort it out.

Them - The fense on your side of the boundary...?

Us - The one on our side is being taken down. You will need to replace with a fense on your side, because we don't want a fense.

Them...?

Us - You'll need a whole new fense, with posts, all on your side. The whole lot on our side is rotten, leaning. The posts and all panels are coming down.

Them - So you're not replacing it?

Us - Not with a new fense, no. I want a hedge instead.

Them - What about your dog?

Us - I'm putting up a chicken wire on our side while the hedge grows. The hedge will grow through the chicken wire.

Them - That will look rubbish

Us - initially yes. But I think a green hedge is much nicer then a fence in the long run. Also better for wildlife.

Them - Will you go halves on a fence?

Us - No (!!) We. Want. A. Hedge. We are taking the fense down in the summer hols. In just telling you, not asking. I don't want a fense so won't be paying towards one. But if you want a fense I'm not going to fall out about it, but you'd need to pay because its not my preference. Otherwise, we will be paying for a hedge because that's my preference.

They caused such a fuss about it. They seemed to genuinely not understand that we might not want a fense. It's seemed an alien concept to them.

It caused massive tensions.

YABU for spelling fence incorrectly a gazillion times on your post 🤣🤣🤣

Rosestulips · 21/04/2024 14:52

Why would any sane person remove a fence between boundaries? I’m guessing he’s not very sane.

LIZS · 21/04/2024 14:53

He is not obliged to have fences marking the boundary. You need to contain your dogs.

2chocolateoranges · 21/04/2024 14:54

It’s a bit crap removing a fence that keeps gardens separate, that is Unless you have something immediately to replace it with, No wonder there is so much Agro between neighbours when there are so many shit ones around!

if I were in your position I’d just put my own fence up.

LIZS · 21/04/2024 14:54

He is not legally obliged to have fences marking the boundary so can remove it . You need to contain your dogs.

bluecomputerscreen · 21/04/2024 14:56

there is no legal obligation to have a fence between properties (unless specified e.g. a conservation area).
however, as a dog owner it's your obligation to keep your dog from leaving your property.

as pp say, put up your own fence to keep your dogs secure..

GreatGateauxsby · 21/04/2024 14:57

He's told me he's taken it down to antagonise us;

Feedback to his crazy is his oxygen.

  • Do not waste your time with a semi permanent.
  • Get concrete posts and boards and install 6 ft panelling the full length of your boundary with him.
  • Avoid him.
  • do not engage.
  • if you must engage keep it short and deflect giving bland meaningless responses.
Eg. Him: big long rant about his pension You: like i said I'm in a rush, enjoy your day.

Him: big long rant about your new fencing
You: sorry you feel that way. I have to go I'm quite busy.

mt9m · 21/04/2024 15:02

I'm not sure how you waited a very long time to report him to the police for something if you only just became a homeowner for the first time as you're OP stated. Regardless, it only takes a few days to put your own 6-foot fence up, I did mine recently because my neighbours didn't want to replace the rotting one they put up 20 years ago.

OhmygodDont · 21/04/2024 15:03

He doesn’t have to have any fence at all legally. It doesn’t matter why he has removed it either.

It’s your dog to contain your dogs however be that a tie down cable or your own fences.

Soontobe60 · 21/04/2024 15:05

victoriasnotsecret · 21/04/2024 14:30

We are getting a temporary fence put in today. He's told me he's taken it down to antagonise us; so yeah maybe best we sort it ourselves.
We will have to mention it to the police because they are going to be prosecuting the neighbour anyway. They are just a weird family with loads of problems and although we've been neighbourly I don't want anything to do either them any more!

What did they do that means they’re being o prosecuted???

Icanseethebeach · 21/04/2024 15:07

victoriasnotsecret · 21/04/2024 13:13

We are putting up a temporary fence but what if he never replaces it. Should have asked that in my original post.

Then you put a permanent fence. If you want a fence the you need to pay for it.

sleepyscientist · 21/04/2024 15:09

How big is your dog? If it a German Shepard I'd be tempted to let it run into his garden and do a massive poo as revenge! We have a double fence with one neighbour (they hated who we bought the house off) it's a pain the neck with weeds growing between us, this year we are going to take them both down and use our fence panels plus their posts to create a decent fence.

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 21/04/2024 15:09

Just put your own fence up. That way it’s one less thing he can do to inconvenience you. You can put your own fence all the way up to his, as long as it’s on your side of the boundary. Make it as high as you are allowed.

Aquamarine1029 · 21/04/2024 15:10

FGS, don't waste money on a temporary fence. Have a permanent one installed, the taller the better and with absolutely no gaps.

wellthisislovely · 21/04/2024 15:14

They have done it to provoke you, so you need to remove that hold over you.

Put up your own fence and then they can do what they like with theirs.

mrsm43s · 21/04/2024 16:21

I'm afraid you need to put a permanent fence up your side of the boundary the full length of your garden.

You have the legal responsibility to keep your animals under control - so if you want them in the garden you need to ensure your garden is securely fenced. He has no legal responsibility to have a fence whatsoever, and if he prefers he could leave the whole length of his garden unfenced.

You are wasting your money with temporary fencing - it needs to be permanent and sturdy.

mrsm43s · 21/04/2024 16:33

victoriasnotsecret · 21/04/2024 14:30

We are getting a temporary fence put in today. He's told me he's taken it down to antagonise us; so yeah maybe best we sort it ourselves.
We will have to mention it to the police because they are going to be prosecuting the neighbour anyway. They are just a weird family with loads of problems and although we've been neighbourly I don't want anything to do either them any more!

I'm a bit confused as to why you think you have to mention to the police something that your neighbours have done which is perfectly legal and they have every right to do?

Don't get me wrong, they're being dicks and trying to inconvenience you, but they do not legally have to have a fence, nor are they required to make sure your garden is secure for your dogs. That is your legal responsibility.

I'm very interested in what you previously reported them to the police for if you think that it's reasonable to report them to the police for not having a fence that they don't legally need to have.

I'd say you've managed to significantly devalue your property by starting neighbour disputes that will now (legally) need to be declared if you sell your property. I hope whatever "illegal" thing they were doing bothered you enough that it was the devalue plus the poor neighbour relations that you are now going to have to live with.

cansu · 21/04/2024 16:38

I am not sure why you think you need to report the neighbour to the police for taking down his own fence! Of course its petty but I suppose he feels annoyed you have reported him to the police.

Elebag · 21/04/2024 16:39

Do not waste your money on a temporary fence. Go permanent, as high as is legal and with hedgehog holes from the start. No mercy.

cansu · 21/04/2024 16:41

In all honesty I would only report my neighbour if they had done something that would harm me or my family or that was serious enough to harm someone else. You have potentially opened up a very difficult situation so I hope it was serious enough to be worth it

savoycabbage · 21/04/2024 16:51

Don't get your hopes up about the police prosecuting your neighbour. Mine did absolutely outrageous things to us over eighteen months including spitting on my baby and setting fire to our front door. CPS did not prosecute.

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