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To be frightened about the Government’s plans for benefits reform?

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PilgorTheGoat · 21/04/2024 11:39

I am one of the millions of people currently on long term sickness benefits. I receive the LCWRA element of UC and PIP due to poor mental health and autism. I have severe anxiety and depression and I am awaiting an appointment to see if I also have PTSD due to sexual abuse in my childhood.

I have tried every element of support offered to me. I’m maxed out on 2 different types of antidepressants. I have had back-to-back (excluding the 6 month wait in between) 12 week sessions of counselling offered via the NHS. I am on a waiting list for intensive CBT due to my possible PTSD. I am currently having twice weekly private, video counselling appointments.

I can’t leave my house alone due to panic attacks. I struggle to meet my own care needs and my husband has to do a lot of the work for us both (although he works full time). I have a very understanding friend whom I force myself to go for a short walk with twice a week in order to stop myself becoming completely imprisoned at home but I find this very distressing and we have to take the same route each time.

I am so, so scared about the government’s plans to end sickness benefits for people like me. We don’t have a load of spare cash, we’re just about getting by. There is no support available. I’ve taken everything offered and my husband has been very proactive in seeking out other services for me to be involved with. I’d love to be better, I’d love not to live in fear but there is no help.

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theduchessofspork · 22/04/2024 14:47

It’s easy for me to say don’t worry - but it is just pre-election crap.

I hope things gradually get better for you.

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 14:50

Kandalama · 22/04/2024 11:04

I think businesses effectively using UC as a fall back is a huge problem.
Paying low wages because they know their employees can get UC creates a huge tax burden.
The minimum wage needs to go up and zero hours contract needs to be stopped so everyone can work in the knowledge they can pay their bills.

Prior to UC when you worked ( assuming no disabilities) you got nothing more. You only picked up the ‘dole’ if you were out of work. Now with UC to top up wages businesses are effectively using benefits as a top up to their low wages.

I appreciate with higher wages everything has to increase in price and round and round and round we go……….I certainly wouldn’t want to be the one trying to sort it all out.

WRONG! people with kids got extra help if their wages were low. It was people WITHOUT kids who got nothing more. thats why WORKING tax credit was brought in to even things up between those who reproduced and those who didnt.
And pre tax credits and pre minimum wage there were jobs advertised in the JC at £50 a WEEK back in the 90s with NOTHING MORE if you DIDNT have kids. My weekly HA rent then was £48 a week So £2 left for food council tax gas bill etc.

And no it wasnt a temp training position like some posters tried to gaslight and insist it was when ive posted about this before. The 90s were shit for a lot of us.

ThisOldThang · 22/04/2024 14:58

Please tell us all on this thread where people who want to work can work.

There are currently 908,000 job vacancies in the UK.

XenoBitch · 22/04/2024 15:02

ThisOldThang · 22/04/2024 14:58

Please tell us all on this thread where people who want to work can work.

There are currently 908,000 job vacancies in the UK.

How many are full time, with proper contracts/sickness/holiday? How many of those jobs will take someone off benefits?

How many will let someone with a disability have reasonable adjustments so they can consistently and safely carry out the job?

My mum has her own cleaning company, and has a ad out for a job that is over NMW but is just 2 hours a week. That will be one of those 908,000 vacancies.

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 15:02

Feeding543Frenzy · 22/04/2024 05:03

Some people have to apply for a certain amount of jobs per week to receive certain benefits

People apply for night shift jobs, but don't wish to work nights

My colleague would wait for people to come for night job interviews & they would not turn up
There were job vacancies

Or

They would accept the job, then not turn up
There were job vacancies

Waste of time for my colleague doing the job interviews !

How much was the job paying? Enough to run a car or enough to pay for taxis as a lot of public transport doesnt run at night. Is the job paying enough for a single person to be able to do this. Not everyone has a partner who is working.

LadyKenya · 22/04/2024 15:03

ThisOldThang · 22/04/2024 14:58

Please tell us all on this thread where people who want to work can work.

There are currently 908,000 job vacancies in the UK.

That may be the case. But how many would really be suitable for people who may have certain restrictions, need adaptations etc... There could be 5 million jobs, that are totally unsuitable.

KittyCollar · 22/04/2024 15:06

ThisOldThang · 22/04/2024 14:58

Please tell us all on this thread where people who want to work can work.

There are currently 908,000 job vacancies in the UK.

Tell me where. Tell me they are jobs that aren’t zero hours. Tell me they aren’t minimum wage which has to be topped up with benefits anyway. There will always be people that don’t fancy working, I get that but what honestly do you suggest the incapacitated do? People who are wheelchair users? I also feel that huge numbers of people have jumped on the disability bandwagon for basically unprovable illnesses. What do we do? How do we weed these people out?

GoodnightAdeline · 22/04/2024 15:06

XenoBitch · 22/04/2024 15:02

How many are full time, with proper contracts/sickness/holiday? How many of those jobs will take someone off benefits?

How many will let someone with a disability have reasonable adjustments so they can consistently and safely carry out the job?

My mum has her own cleaning company, and has a ad out for a job that is over NMW but is just 2 hours a week. That will be one of those 908,000 vacancies.

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Could you work for your mum? Surely she would be understanding of your struggles and you say you have experience cleaning.

XenoBitch · 22/04/2024 15:08

GoodnightAdeline · 22/04/2024 15:06

Could you work for your mum? Surely she would be understanding of your struggles and you say you have experience cleaning.

Been there and done that. She had to fire me! She is not understanding of MH issues at all (I still love her though).
I also live 50 miles away now.

ThisOldThang · 22/04/2024 15:13

XenoBitch · 22/04/2024 15:02

How many are full time, with proper contracts/sickness/holiday? How many of those jobs will take someone off benefits?

How many will let someone with a disability have reasonable adjustments so they can consistently and safely carry out the job?

My mum has her own cleaning company, and has a ad out for a job that is over NMW but is just 2 hours a week. That will be one of those 908,000 vacancies.

Edited

Why don't you take a look at what's available, rather than immediately rejecting the idea?

With almost a million jobs available, I'd expect there to be something suitable for everybody.

Kandalama · 22/04/2024 15:15

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 14:50

WRONG! people with kids got extra help if their wages were low. It was people WITHOUT kids who got nothing more. thats why WORKING tax credit was brought in to even things up between those who reproduced and those who didnt.
And pre tax credits and pre minimum wage there were jobs advertised in the JC at £50 a WEEK back in the 90s with NOTHING MORE if you DIDNT have kids. My weekly HA rent then was £48 a week So £2 left for food council tax gas bill etc.

And no it wasnt a temp training position like some posters tried to gaslight and insist it was when ive posted about this before. The 90s were shit for a lot of us.

I was referring to before this period.
As I said, when all you got was the dole if you were unemployed. ( Plus family allowance if you had kids )

KittyCollar · 22/04/2024 15:15

XenoBitch · 22/04/2024 15:02

How many are full time, with proper contracts/sickness/holiday? How many of those jobs will take someone off benefits?

How many will let someone with a disability have reasonable adjustments so they can consistently and safely carry out the job?

My mum has her own cleaning company, and has a ad out for a job that is over NMW but is just 2 hours a week. That will be one of those 908,000 vacancies.

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Exactly

BIossomtoes · 22/04/2024 15:15

ThisOldThang · 22/04/2024 15:13

Why don't you take a look at what's available, rather than immediately rejecting the idea?

With almost a million jobs available, I'd expect there to be something suitable for everybody.

Why don’t you just give it a rest? The pile on and bullying of two very unwell posters on this thread is absolutely appalling. Please just leave them alone.

KittyCollar · 22/04/2024 15:17

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ThisOldThang · 22/04/2024 15:19

BIossomtoes · 22/04/2024 15:15

Why don’t you just give it a rest? The pile on and bullying of two very unwell posters on this thread is absolutely appalling. Please just leave them alone.

🙄

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 15:27

As i predicted they are coming after the poorest/those on benefits to pay for their lockdowns.

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 15:28

Agree @Blossomtoes its disgusting. @SabreIsMyFave your posts describes the 90s well

ilovesooty · 22/04/2024 15:53

I agree with @BIossomtoes .

GreenClock · 22/04/2024 16:08

The OP and Xeno have handled the barrage of questions about their very real illnesses with absolute class on this thread.

Kandalama · 22/04/2024 16:14

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 15:27

As i predicted they are coming after the poorest/those on benefits to pay for their lockdowns.

All parties would have had lockdowns during Covid. It was the only wise move at the time.

Not so much ‘their’ lockdowns as ours. To save lives.

BIossomtoes · 22/04/2024 16:18

GreenClock · 22/04/2024 16:08

The OP and Xeno have handled the barrage of questions about their very real illnesses with absolute class on this thread.

They have indeed but they shouldn’t have had to. It’s been horrible to watch, God knows they they’ve felt.

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 16:21

Kandalama · 22/04/2024 16:14

All parties would have had lockdowns during Covid. It was the only wise move at the time.

Not so much ‘their’ lockdowns as ours. To save lives.

But their proposals show they value some lives more than others, And the working poor certainly came in handy for delivering the laptop class their shit during the lockdowns. Now as i predicted its back to the default setting
All in this together 🙄

Kandalama · 22/04/2024 16:36

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 16:21

But their proposals show they value some lives more than others, And the working poor certainly came in handy for delivering the laptop class their shit during the lockdowns. Now as i predicted its back to the default setting
All in this together 🙄

Unfortunately I don’t see any party, as yet, coming up with a massive brain wave to sort out the financial mess this country is in.
Nothing proposed so far is fare or workable.

Looking forward to seeing what they all come up with though .

‘working poor came in handy for delivery their laptop class’ ……do you mean teachers doing online classes?

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 16:38

Im talking about the delivery drivers and workers who work bloody hard yet still have to claim UC and now they have to listen to this benefits crap

Kandalama · 22/04/2024 16:39

JenniferBooth · 22/04/2024 16:38

Im talking about the delivery drivers and workers who work bloody hard yet still have to claim UC and now they have to listen to this benefits crap

Ok
I get it.
I didn’t understand the term ‘laptop class’, I’ve never heard that one before

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