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To feel really triggered by this book

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Struggle1 · 21/04/2024 10:45

I’m trying to feel better and just downloaded a self help book from audible and the author I feel was very silly to include in the opening introduction an excercise which asks you to think back to your childhood and feel the same level of carefree and fun attitude you had plus other things from childhood. As someone who had an extremely dysfunctional childhood where I do not ever remember having any fun or care free attitude this really triggered me. I spend my childhood scared and on high alert.

its a self help book surely she should realise not everyone had a perfect childhood like she seems to have had where she’s giving numerous examples. I couldn’t listen anymore.

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Icantbedoingwithit · 21/04/2024 13:35

I usually reframe it. If I am told to look back to my childhood even though it was traumatic, I go back and find that little girl who hadn’t got an advocate for her back then, as the adult I am now. That way I am no longer helpless or scared because I am in charge now and I will take care of her and we will heal together. It helps me to do it that way. It also helps me to be good to myself now because that little girl deserves it. I keep a pic of me as a child that I look at when I am being hard on myself and realise I am doing that to her. It really does help me to take care of myself and keep trudging the healing journey.

patchworkpal · 21/04/2024 13:40

It's fine to feel "Triggered" by it yes. You clearly have uncomfortable feelings and it may be worth exploring them further with an in person therapist. Self help books aren't for everyone

ohlookimbackagain · 21/04/2024 13:41

I know what you mean OP.

I remember reading a self-help book by Ferne Cotton where she was talking about having that one friend you go for long walks with, the friend you turn to for advice, the friend you go out with and how you should make sure you make use of your support network ect.

All I could think was if I actually had a support network maybe I wouldn’t be depressed 🤔

Shan5474 · 21/04/2024 13:54

I’ve found there are quite a lot of self help books that are for the average person who just feels a bit sad. They offer very surface-level help and waffle on a lot. Then there are others written by psychologists etc. that are a bit more understanding that the reader may have gone through major traumas (especially in childhood). It might be worth looking for a book written by a trauma-informed therapist or one who believes our childhood experiences influence us as adults. I’d also struggle to think of carefree childhood times and that might upset me, but it is just a wrong choice of book. Like choosing a therapist, you might have to try a few out.

IthinkIamAnAlien · 21/04/2024 18:01

OP, I recognise what you wrote, I have felt rage at insensitive suggestions in self help books. There are a lot of unqualified people out there writing books and a lot of unselfaware, unkind people too who turn their own unrecognised pain back on ours.

It took me years to be able to afford therapy and so find someone suitable.

Have you come across the work of Pete Walker? https://pete-walker.com/complex_ptsd_book.html

Podcasts can be helpful, eg. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/conversations-with-annalisa-barbieri/id1567190358

An unhappy childhood can put your whole life under a shadow, it's a lonely place. I invented a competent, confident personna, the trouble is that that shuts people out. You can't talk to other people and they find it hard to see that small, unhappy child still grieving a loving childhood. Keep looking for help and develop boundaries against the unkind ones. Take care.

Conversations with Annalisa Barbieri on Apple Podcasts

‎Conversations with Annalisa Barbieri on Apple Podcasts

‎Society & Culture · 2024

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/conversations-with-annalisa-barbieri/id1567190358

IthinkIamAnAlien · 21/04/2024 18:19

These are an excellent set of self help resources

https://www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself

Pete Walker, who I mentioned upthread is an American psychotherapist with a website full of helpful articles as well as books.

gingerbreddy · 21/04/2024 18:33

I agree with you OP. It’s a really normative and thoughtless thing to have. Ignore the posters who don’t get it.

AtrociousCircumstance · 21/04/2024 18:35

Some posters are being needlessly reactive and critical here @Struggle1 - ignore them.

It seems pretty ignorant of the author. What was the book?

AlwaysGinPlease · 21/04/2024 18:39

loropianalover · 21/04/2024 10:46

Not everything is about you. If a particular exercise doesn’t work for you, move on.

Uncalled for. Grow up!

StormingNorman · 21/04/2024 18:39

Struggle1 · 21/04/2024 11:22

@EveSix thank you. Sorry to hear you and your sister having to deal with childhood issues too. Have you got any tips on how not to be on high alert? I think occasionally it has helped being on high alert as I have sensed bad intentions others haven’t and I wasn’t surprised when was told about once they figured it out. Don’t really want to go into details. I do see what you mean that you have an easier life I wish I could switch it off

Have you read anything about Complex PTSD? This is basically trauma from childhood and it can leave you on high alert. It might be worth looking into.

My brain is wired to want to know everything around me too. Apparently it’s not normal to eye up escape routes and take a reading on everyone you come into contact with 😂

hban · 21/04/2024 18:39

I agree.

a significant percentage of the population have experienced childhood trauma and probably a large percentage of the audience so it’s a bit of an oversight on the authors part and it would make me think they didn’t know their stuff

StormingNorman · 21/04/2024 18:40

Agree that reference to a carefree childhood is probably unnecessary when a ‘carefree time’ could be substituted with no loss of meaning.

W0rkerBee · 21/04/2024 18:44

I get it. In a very good work book which I did benefit from over all, I had none of the right type of relationships to reflect on. It still helped though. But yeh, I was in people pleasing mode my entire childhood. But I felt carefree when other adults were around ad my mother was happier and less snappy in company.

Struggle1 · 21/04/2024 18:44

IthinkIamAnAlien · 21/04/2024 18:19

These are an excellent set of self help resources

https://www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself

Pete Walker, who I mentioned upthread is an American psychotherapist with a website full of helpful articles as well as books.

Thank you much I will look into this. Thank you everyone who gave me positive messages.

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W0rkerBee · 21/04/2024 18:49

Garlicked · 21/04/2024 12:40

Me, too. I spent a small fortune and a lot of valuable time on 'self help' books before booking in for therapy and doing it properly. I now own just TWO well-thumbed self-help books recommended by therapists, which dig deep.

I agree with your complaint, @Struggle1. It's not hard for an author to write "if you can recall a happy, carefree time in your childhood ..." and offer something else if not.

These books become best-sellers by making their readers feel nice, though, so they're mostly emotional candy floss.

Can I ask which ones?
My therapist recommended a work book by Dr kirsten neff and fr Chris germer. It helped me a lot, although there were questions in there that were hard to answer.

W0rkerBee · 21/04/2024 18:52

I've read the Pete walker book too, it was excellent but it intellectualised the journey rather than healing the wound. Good book though. Really resonated.

Struggle1 · 21/04/2024 20:11

Thank you all. Could PP please tell me the name of the book that was recommended by psychologist?

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Americano75 · 21/04/2024 20:30

God, that must have been horrible. Some great links here though.

W0rkerBee · 21/04/2024 21:42

This is what my therapist recommended.

The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook: A Proven Way to Accept Yourself, Build Inner Strength, and Thrive : Neff, Kristin, Germer, Christopher: Amazon.co.uk: Books

I worked my way through it a chapter a week, i made myself take it slowly. Some of the exercises weren't easy but I can see that it did train my inner voice.

Years earlier I had managed to quieten my CRITICAL inner voice but although I'd done that, it hadn't become very understanding or supportive or compassionate. I do think this work book helped me a lot but it felt like work. you know when people say ''do the work'' it felt a bit like work cos it wasn't always easy. not like sitting on the sofa watching patrick teahan videos with a cup of tea, jerry wise, heidi priebe, all my usuals. This was more interactive.

FictionalCharacter · 21/04/2024 22:04

Yanbu. Instead of prompting you to remember something pleasant, you were prompted to remember upsetting things. The authors should understand that many people, especially those needing a self help book, have had traumatic childhoods.
TBH I think a lot of these books are rubbish.

Queenofcarrotflour · 21/04/2024 22:14

I'm not sure why you're getting so many negative comments.

I would think that as adverse childhood experiences are often a factor in adult mental illness, an author writing a self help book would ideally be sensitive to that.

Queenofcarrotflour · 21/04/2024 22:16

loropianalover · 21/04/2024 10:46

Not everything is about you. If a particular exercise doesn’t work for you, move on.

Nasty and unnecessary.

EatCrow · 21/04/2024 22:21

IthinkIamAnAlien · 21/04/2024 18:19

These are an excellent set of self help resources

https://www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself

Pete Walker, who I mentioned upthread is an American psychotherapist with a website full of helpful articles as well as books.

👍 Brilliant man and enormously helpful.

AmaryllisChorus · 21/04/2024 22:33

OP, I think you have a good point. The best self help writers wouldn't usually specify a certain time in life or make these assumptions - they'd say Think back to a time you felt really safe and happy. And they should add - if you are here because you have never yet had that privilege in life and you hope to find it in these pages, please turn to pX where there is an exercise on how to create a safe haven in your mind, which is just as effective for the purpose of this exercise.

I have a vague memory of reading that in a self help book (maybe the same book) and thinking similar to you - it's a poor assumption that people in need of self help had happy childhoods!

Don't let it put you off, though. You can design a safe haven in your mind - just imagine an environment that brings you joy - a cosy room or sunny place of natural beauty - whatever you like best. Fill it with things that add comfort and security, fun and joy to you. When a similar exercise asks you to remember a place, just summon your designed safe haven.

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