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Since when did playing music through speakers be OK on a hospital ward?

139 replies

Hateam · 21/04/2024 09:01

I'm at my wife's bedside on a neurology ward and twice now other patients have just put the speaker on their phone and played music.

The ward staff seem OK with this.

OP posts:
MrsGlennBulb · 21/04/2024 10:57

Moirarosesgarden · 21/04/2024 10:45

This is my worst nightmare. I actually fear ever needing a hospital stay for this reason. I could not cope with the sheer selfishness of other people on a ward.

Same here.

LividAA · 21/04/2024 11:00

We really need a push as a society to make this hugely socially unacceptable.

It should be as frowned upon as pulling your pants down and shitting on the pavement.

the80sweregreat · 21/04/2024 11:02

I was visiting a relative and the radio on the window sill was on with some terrible local station droning on about football close to me and her , so I switched it off.
The nurse came over and switched it back on again. Nobody was listening to it and my relative was fed up with it too. She gave me daggers
She wasn't listening to it herself.

Odiebay · 21/04/2024 11:17

Found this aswell. Mum was on neurology ward after pretty serious surgery around Christmas. Some guy was playing the radio down the hall on full volume with heavy metal playing. Asked the nurses to turn it down and they said "well we don't want to upset him" 🙄😡

Dnt understand this in public places either. Where common curtsey or just decency. I'm always aware of those around me but some people seem oblivious.

valensiwalensi · 21/04/2024 11:23

Also you don’t know hell until your in a children’s A and E and there are 15 phones all playing cocomelon.

headphones are NOT expensive!

the80sweregreat · 21/04/2024 11:34

I know some people don't like headphones or ear plugs ( I know I don't) but I would just put the phone or device on silent or not watch anything if I were in hospital.
Common courtesy and manners are lacking in public places and areas / transport etc all round these days.
Hospitals used to have tv rooms years ago
I know it's a thing of the past , but it helped with the boredom I think.
Phones and I pads or whatever can be a menace.

BaconCozzers · 21/04/2024 11:36

I'm really not confrontational in normal every day life, but I think I would be here. Even if they ultimately ignored it I would have to publicly say my bit and spell out how selfish immature and ridiculous they are being. I despair of people now op and feel for you and your wife.

yoteyak · 21/04/2024 11:39

Yolo12345 · 21/04/2024 09:06

It's the same in buses, trains and even aeroplanes...

No help with hospitals, etc., but on a train in UK, unless you have written permission it's illegal.

Railway Byelaw 7 says (see Railway Byelaws):
"... except with written permission from an operator no person on the railway shall, to the annoyance of any person:
... use any instrument, article or equipment for the production or reproduction of sound
... a person shall have the written permission referred to ... with him when undertaking the activities referred to ... and shall hand it over for inspection when asked by an authorised person."

(In a hospital ward, if a polite request were rebuffed, I might become so confused my elderly arthritic limbs could lead me to stumble and fall, accidentally smashing the music player. Just saying.)

Yes some people are awful. Not a majority, but they do affect others disproportionately. If you think it's OK to inflict your choice of music on others, think again: doing so makes you a bad person. (I know, yes, most bad people don't care about being bad ...)

Railway byelaws

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/railway-byelaws/railway-byelaws

LittleBearPad · 21/04/2024 11:40

BobbyBiscuits · 21/04/2024 09:45

On the other side of the coin, I was on the ward for 5, weeks and nobody disturbed anyone, ever! And we all had tellies/ radios and some of us tablets as well. I think me and 2 others got told to go to sleep at midnight once as we were chatting away like schoolgirls, lol. It really depends on who you get stuck next to. And the hospital itself as well. The one I was in was one of the best in the country.

No I imagine the TV and radio noise couldn’t be heard over the three of you chatting long into the night like schoolgirls. Hmm

ImNotDone · 21/04/2024 11:43

After brain surgery noise is fucking horrific. I get some old people don’t own headphones but you should not be allowed to use a bedside radio or tv without them. Anywhere. The only place a tv should be on is in a day room. I had someone put the radio on and then leave it in and go for a walk. It stopped me wanting to go back for more treatment as it was horrible.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/04/2024 11:44

Loveskin2024 · 21/04/2024 09:14

In Japan it’s wonderful! It’s socially unacceptable to play loud music on trains etc

It used to be socially unacceptable in the UK

Lemonyfuckit · 21/04/2024 11:49

Hell really is other people OP. I put up with it on public transport (even though I agree it's completely and utterly unacceptable) because I don't want to get into a confrontation that could escalate dangerously, but there's no way I would put up with it in hospital. I would complain to the staff and keep complaining until it's dealt with. I get it, the staff are run ragged, BUT they should be able to have some authority and frankly so I guess it's who's going to be the lesser of two evils - the arsehole entitled selfish patients / their selfish visitors, or you. (Obviously not suggesting you be rude and sure you won't be, but it really is unacceptable and I don't see why your wife should have to put up with that whilst she's trying to recover just because the staff are too stretched). Often the reasonable have to put up and shut up (because they're reasonable) and the unreasonable people therefore continue to get away with it.

Good luck OP, and more importantly good luck with your wife's recovery.

TheMuskratOfDestiny · 21/04/2024 11:49

People are incredibly selfish

The staff are overworked, underpaid and are not trained to deal with this shit.

LakeTiticaca · 21/04/2024 11:49

Those in charge should be dealing with the issue. Patients need a calm quiet space to recover from illness. Not a ruddy nightclub.
Have they not heard of earphones?
Once again its seems the rights of those who wish to do what ever they want trump the rights of the majority who don't want to listen to someone else's awful choice of music.
I would be making a complaint to the hospital Trust. It's not acceptable

BaconCozzers · 21/04/2024 11:50

TheMuskratOfDestiny · 21/04/2024 11:49

People are incredibly selfish

The staff are overworked, underpaid and are not trained to deal with this shit.

I do agree. But what kind of special training do you think it needs for staff to tell them to turn it off/use headphones?

BobbyBiscuits · 21/04/2024 11:56

@LittleBearPad I was there for 5 weeks. We did that once. And it didn't disturb the others it was the nurse. Sorry, but we all got on really well. We kept in touch afterwards and everything.
I'm just showing how much it depends on who you're with.

cerisepanther73 · 21/04/2024 11:57

@Hateam

I agree with your sentiments too,

It's intrusive and not everyone will have the same taste in music and it's anti social as visitors and patients can't communicate effectively with music quite loud as that too,

If some or few patients want to listen to music? 🎶
they need to have ear plugs on compulsory 🔌 🙄 for rest of the ward's comfort too..

Pigeonqueen · 21/04/2024 11:58

BaconCozzers · 21/04/2024 11:50

I do agree. But what kind of special training do you think it needs for staff to tell them to turn it off/use headphones?

Exactly. There should be signs up in the wards saying use of headphones is essential if playing music / etc on devices. And then a quick verbal ticking off if not adhered to. Super easy.

People really are so selfish though. I stayed in hospital after a bladder op last year and the woman opposite me rang her partner in the middle of the night - 3am every night, several times and talked at full volume. I mean what the actual fuck? It’s literally almost made me feel I’d rather just die quietly at home. Hospital is hell.

OutOfTheHouse · 21/04/2024 11:59

What always gets me is that on posts like this no one ever admits to doing it. It’s like dropping litter, no one admits it’s them yet it clearly happens.

TheMuskratOfDestiny · 21/04/2024 12:00

BobbyBiscuits · 21/04/2024 09:45

On the other side of the coin, I was on the ward for 5, weeks and nobody disturbed anyone, ever! And we all had tellies/ radios and some of us tablets as well. I think me and 2 others got told to go to sleep at midnight once as we were chatting away like schoolgirls, lol. It really depends on who you get stuck next to. And the hospital itself as well. The one I was in was one of the best in the country.

We found one op!

What makes you think your right to chatter away like schoolgirls trumps others right to peaceful recuperation?

TheMuskratOfDestiny · 21/04/2024 12:00

BaconCozzers · 21/04/2024 11:50

I do agree. But what kind of special training do you think it needs for staff to tell them to turn it off/use headphones?

Conflict resolution.

PontiacFirebird · 21/04/2024 12:03

It’s a cop out to say staff shouldn’t have to confront. Staff need to have that authority. Sadly on most wards staff are mainly very young and don’t really seem to understand the concept of peace, rest and recovery. Half the time the nurses are louder than anyone. A healthcare person upthread said “ hospitals are not places for recovery” which when you think about it is completely nuts (although currently true).
It’s the same on public transport because drivers are now told not to intervene. They just stay in the cab and ignore while awful behaviour happens. Not that long ago, when lads behaved badly in the bus the driver would pull over and refuse to drive until they got off, backed up by a load of tutting passengers. Now everyone is apparently too scared/ apathetic/ jobsworth to be arsed doing anything.
OP YANBU.

OutOfTheHouse · 21/04/2024 12:03

Bring back matron. Hattie Jaques wouldn’t have put up with this shit.

Since when did playing music through speakers be OK on a hospital ward?
BaconCozzers · 21/04/2024 12:03

Conflict resolution.... I'd like my nurses to have enough common sense to deal with minor issues without training please. This is not international diplomatics, it's telling a twat to pipe down.

OutOfTheHouse · 21/04/2024 12:05

PontiacFirebird · 21/04/2024 12:03

It’s a cop out to say staff shouldn’t have to confront. Staff need to have that authority. Sadly on most wards staff are mainly very young and don’t really seem to understand the concept of peace, rest and recovery. Half the time the nurses are louder than anyone. A healthcare person upthread said “ hospitals are not places for recovery” which when you think about it is completely nuts (although currently true).
It’s the same on public transport because drivers are now told not to intervene. They just stay in the cab and ignore while awful behaviour happens. Not that long ago, when lads behaved badly in the bus the driver would pull over and refuse to drive until they got off, backed up by a load of tutting passengers. Now everyone is apparently too scared/ apathetic/ jobsworth to be arsed doing anything.
OP YANBU.

But look at schools. If a teacher dares to tell a child off the parent is banging on the door demanding to know why their child has been put in detention.

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