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Does fighting the signs of ageing actually have any objective benefits?

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tinsatape · 17/04/2024 20:50

Given the popularity of things like Botox and filler along with other anti-ageing products and procedures do you think there is a significant advantage or benefit to being in your 40's and 50's and not having the typical lines, volume loss, sagging, crows feet that one might expect of a woman that age?

So for example if two women are both 47, go for the same job, have the same qualifications, experience and so on but one has a smooth, line free face will that give her an advantage over the other woman who has some signs of her age on her face?

What about in dating? If woman is 50, single and dating if she has no lines under her eyes on her forehead, round her mouth, or crows feet does that give her an advantage in dating, will men be more likely to be attracted to her or want to see her again because she has nice skin?

I am not necessarily talking about looking younger because that is about more then your skin and most people look their approximately age even if they have youthful skin. I am just more trying to work out if doing what you can to prevent or reverse the visible signs of ageing on your skin and face has any objective benefit or if it is more just a personal endeavour where you feel more confident?

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KangerShoo89 · 17/04/2024 21:26

What's tretinoin? Worth it?

tinsatape · 17/04/2024 21:29

@KangerShoo89 I like it I've used it for since I was 19 originally for acne but I've also known women who really struggled with it and felt it aged their skin. Its just a stronger form of retinol and needs a prescription. Retinol will have a similar effect over time but is less likely to cause irritation.

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bluejelly · 17/04/2024 21:34

In my industry I think there is no real advantage in being pretty or youthful looking. I think being clever and well groomed helps. But not necessarily being conventionally attractive.

biscuitnut · 17/04/2024 21:42

I think being in shape and well groomed is an advantage but I don’t think a face full of fillers and Botox will tip the balance. Much as we like to kid ourselves a woman on her 50s who has work done will still look like her woman in her 50s. Youth is prized and cannot be gained through a needle of botox- sadly!

iloveshetlandponies · 17/04/2024 21:46

MoonCircles · 17/04/2024 21:24

Back in the 90s, 19 year old me got a job as a garage parts delivery person. The manager out and out told me at the interview that they would always hire the best looking girl out of the applicants. The reason being that if garages had a choice of say 5 companies to buy parts from, each of them offering the same parts at very similar prices, which one will they go for? The one with the fittest girl who they can have a bit of a flirt with to brighten up their day. I doubt if these days anyone would be quite so explicitly honest in admitting this kind of rationale, but I’m sure it still applies to a lot of situations.

I used to work for a large high street bank in customer services

I was asked to be in a management training dvd and was filmed pretending to be a manager leading a team meeting

I was not a manager nor had not had any experience being on screen. So was perplexed at why they'd asked me, the answer from my manager, with no irony, was You're blonde pretty and size 8. 🙈 this was about 2003, that would never happen now

tinsatape · 17/04/2024 21:50

biscuitnut · 17/04/2024 21:42

I think being in shape and well groomed is an advantage but I don’t think a face full of fillers and Botox will tip the balance. Much as we like to kid ourselves a woman on her 50s who has work done will still look like her woman in her 50s. Youth is prized and cannot be gained through a needle of botox- sadly!

I kind of agree that no matter what you do you will still look you age approximately but even in that case does relaxing eleven lines, forehead furrows, crows feet and lightly replacing lost volume to smooth out the face still have an economic (for want of a better word) benefit for women as opposed to just good grooming?

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Branster · 17/04/2024 21:59

I'm sure being naturally attractive does offer advantages for preferential treatment regardless of age.

I'm not convinced the type of cosmetic enhancements mentioned in the first post make any difference to a mature woman in terms of jobs or dating success. By that stage in life, no matter what one does to themselves they will look their age.

Looking healthy and natural as a mature woman (or at any age) gives a signal of reliability and honesty and these qualities are more preferable in the long term.

There is also an element of something unsettling when interacting with an animated face which has had interventions, because there is something not in harmony that we perceive, subconsciously. Yes, that face might look perfect in a photograph or in the mirror. But not when actively engaged with other humans. Subtle but strange, nonetheless.

The question is, does a woman use botox/fillers etc to make herself feel better (then why not, if it works knock yourself out I say, your body, your risk) or to try and fit in with some superficial perceived beauty standard (this one is tricky)?
And why do men go through similar procedures? What is the benefit there? To attract women?

Silkymum · 20/04/2024 08:21

I think people like to employ people that look like they are in robust health. So they won't hire someone who looks 'tired' and that's the big thing that ageing does do for a lot of people. Having surgery on their hooded eyes, or filler in their tear troughs, or Botox in their forehead, might not make them look a different age, but it might make the difference between them looking tired and in poorer health, and well rested and in better health.

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