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To wonder why the council can build family friendly houses and developers can't!

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CariCari · 17/04/2024 10:51

I live in a small village, increasing in popularity rapidly. In the last 5 years 2 new build estates have been built by private developers and one new council estate of about 40 houses has been built. Other than that the council has put massive investments into the village over the last decade (all the council houses have been re-rendered, school got an extension, community centre refurbed, new running track at the park and new play equipment plus some. We feel very lucky.

I have a friend with 3 children. She lives in one of the new build council houses and yesterday I went round for a cup of tea and omg these houses are so much better than any of the private houses that have been built around the same time.

All 3 bedrooms are doubles, 2 with double built in wardrobes the other with a single built in wardrobe. Lots of cupboard space, massive garden, drive way, very bright. Also not built in a style that will age too fast and seems to have some character!

It's also quiet, her garden backs on to fields, the estate has a little play park etc.

All the 3 bed semis built by the private developers have 2 bedrooms which are barely doubles, a tiny box room etc.

AIBU to wonder how a cash strapped council are able to build houses actually suitable for a family but private developers can't!! I'll be honest I'm very jealous of my friend!!

OP posts:
boobot1 · 18/04/2024 11:53

Because the smaller the house, the more they can squeeze in, the more profit they make.

User2460177 · 18/04/2024 11:55

the council can (and often do) spend much more on building housing because they don’t have to sell them on the open market. The fact there is a massive waiting list for affordable housing seems to be irrelevant to them.

User2460177 · 18/04/2024 11:58

SpaghettiWithaYeti · 17/04/2024 20:43

Council tax can't be used to cross subsidise council housing, there are strict accounting rules

Most council funding comes from central government. Developers are also forced to build housing for free as a planning condition and pass it to local authorities or housing associations.

User2460177 · 18/04/2024 12:00

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 17/04/2024 13:10

I'm not convinced of this, from what I've seen the developers often wriggle out of these potential payments.

I think that the developers are well versed in knowing how to word these things - unfortunately council's often don't see through them.
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That’s not at all reality. Sometimes developers give money or build social housing on a different site but the idea that they can or so just ignore the law or that councils turn down revenue is just fantasy.

DuchesseNemours · 18/04/2024 13:39

I think there is a fair argument for the government to build decent housing stock of a good size and then rent out at cost or just above it, thus providing secure, safe homes for people without it costing tax money.

IF that's what some are able to do today then I'd like to see more of it.

SpaghettiWithaYeti · 19/04/2024 09:42

User2460177 · 18/04/2024 11:58

Most council funding comes from central government. Developers are also forced to build housing for free as a planning condition and pass it to local authorities or housing associations.

I don't dispute that.

But people earlier in the thread were assuming their council tax went towards this, and that is the point I was correcting.

SpaghettiWithaYeti · 19/04/2024 09:43

User2460177 · 18/04/2024 12:00

That’s not at all reality. Sometimes developers give money or build social housing on a different site but the idea that they can or so just ignore the law or that councils turn down revenue is just fantasy.

They get very creative with their viability assessments, that's how they get out of it

BitOutOfPractice · 19/04/2024 09:46

Because private developers cut every bit of quality and space out to make a profit. As an example, if they can save 10p on a front door lock they will, leaving you with the same key as half the estate, vulnerable to burglary. That is not an exaggeration. That is a real life example.

I would never buy a new build for this reason.

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