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Alcohol in pudding not clearly displayed

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Purpledefector · 17/04/2024 06:49

I need a bit of a reality check - prefacing to say I'm 2.5 years sober - and not sure if this is clouding my judgement a bit.

I bought a dine in meal in Sainsbury's and the pudding was ' chocolate hazelnut pots' ' sponge biscuit layered with creamy chocolate hazelnut mascarpone and topped with hazelnuts and chocolate shavings'.

When I started to eat it I immediately noticed the very obvious taste of alcohol. Went and checked the packaging and listed within the ingredients was 'alcohol' but this wasn't mentioned or hinted at anywhere else on the product - in the picture or the describing words.

I was really surprised by this lack of transparency. Sainsbury's responded to my complaint really quickly - offered me a £10 gift card and said it would be fed back to the packaging department. I said that I felt that didn't reflect the seriousness of the issue and asked for it to be raised with a manager. It has been and their response is the same.

It's not sitting right with me, it feels like a huge error - and I want to take it further.

What's the general consensus?

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soupfiend · 17/04/2024 19:40

Purpledefector · 17/04/2024 09:18

But would you check a bottle of orange squash to see if it had nuts in it?
Actually I probably would if my child had an allergy, but my point is that it was so unexpected with the description.

As I set out with my artificial sweetners example, yes, every single thing

Do you know what they crop up in, medicines a lot, jars of things which are savoury, some snack bars/snacks, Ive even seen them in crisps, cant remember which ones now, in the flavourings basically.

Ive just remembered they're in Gaviscon. And lemsip. Various cough mixtures. Vitamin supplements.

soupfiend · 17/04/2024 19:49

mrsdineen2 · 17/04/2024 10:28

I'll be completely honest here - I've never scrutinised the ingredients list of a fruit shoot or a pack of pom bears specifically looking to ensure sure there's no vodka in there before giving to my kids, and I doubt you have either.

Edited

You're not looking to avoid a particular ingredient though are you? So your question is somewhat irrelevant. Unless the poster you replied to has already said they avoid alcohol in products?

Merrymouse · 17/04/2024 20:00

neverendingcold · 17/04/2024 19:40

It's clearly some kind of a tiramasu rip off they should just own it and mention the booze

I suspect that is the problem - it’s not an identifiable alcohol like rum or Marsala that would sell the product.

soupfiend · 17/04/2024 20:08

Growlybear83 · 17/04/2024 13:35

@marmiteoneverything Actually, consuming 2ml of Marsala wine would cause deep distress to my daughter and son in law as strict practising Muslims. I recognise this when I'm shopping for food thst they might eat when they are in our house and check all food labels carefully. It's not difficult to do.

Its a choice to be a practising Muslim isnt it, same as any religion

user1745 · 17/04/2024 20:32

I don't think you were unreasonable OP. That isn't the kind of dessert I would usually expect to contain alcohol so I wouldn't usually check the ingredients.

It's different if it's something like a tiramisu which usually contains alcohol.

Mich8 · 17/04/2024 20:35

user1745 · 17/04/2024 20:32

I don't think you were unreasonable OP. That isn't the kind of dessert I would usually expect to contain alcohol so I wouldn't usually check the ingredients.

It's different if it's something like a tiramisu which usually contains alcohol.

If you read the dessert description, it actually seems to be based on a tiramisu in some ways tbf.

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 20:42

I've just looked at the wine I've just opened.

The only indication that it contains alcohol is the % of it in tiny letters on the label.

If I email Asda, can I get a £10 voucher too?

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 20:43

neverendingcold · 17/04/2024 19:37

It's not clear

It really is.

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front of the packaging, listed in the ingredients and on the product page a 3rd time on the sainsbury's website.

If you miss all of those, you maybe want to pay a bit more attention to what you are buying and eating.

Watchkeys · 17/04/2024 20:56

Socksey · 17/04/2024 07:17

Interesting read of comments....
And while you might say that the onus is on OP to check, why then do we label clearly other foods with a vegetarian or vegan symbol? As surely a vegetarian/vegan is also capable of checking an ingredients list?
In my mind, it's comparable to that..... unlike the allergens which are required to be highlighted...

For increased targeting of sales. It's a different matter altogether. There's no requirement to label vegetarian/vegan foods. The marketers do it so that the veggies don't miss their product. It's not a warning. Not all vegan foods are labelled. Polo mints, bourbon biscuits, Oreos etc. Veg(an) foods are labelled for what they don't contain.

mrsdineen2 · 17/04/2024 21:00

soupfiend · 17/04/2024 19:49

You're not looking to avoid a particular ingredient though are you? So your question is somewhat irrelevant. Unless the poster you replied to has already said they avoid alcohol in products?

I generally am trying to avoid giving my children vodka tbh. I'd have just previously felt a little paranoid and ott to be scrutinising every item in case someone's added it to the small print.

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:03

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 20:43

It really is.

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front of the packaging, listed in the ingredients and on the product page a 3rd time on the sainsbury's website.

If you miss all of those, you maybe want to pay a bit more attention to what you are buying and eating.

Edited

Alcohol is a toxin. It needs to be clearly stated as present on the packaging. This packaging is not clear.

CelesteCunningham · 17/04/2024 21:04

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:03

Alcohol is a toxin. It needs to be clearly stated as present on the packaging. This packaging is not clear.

It's stated more clearly than allergens that could kill people.

It's very obvious on this thread which posters have no experience of checking food labels!

BubblegumBlue24 · 17/04/2024 21:08

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:03

Alcohol is a toxin. It needs to be clearly stated as present on the packaging. This packaging is not clear.

Alcohol is a toxin.

Really? You never mentioned this…..

Kneeslikethese · 17/04/2024 21:10

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front and the back. What more do people want?

Watchkeys · 17/04/2024 21:13

Kneeslikethese · 17/04/2024 21:10

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front and the back. What more do people want?

They want it to say 'CONTAINS ALCOHOL'.

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:19

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:03

Alcohol is a toxin. It needs to be clearly stated as present on the packaging. This packaging is not clear.

Once again, the amount of alcohol in a product that is not age restricted is not enough to hurt anyone. There is as much in a couple of over-ripe bananas.

Not matter how many times you say it, it doesn't stop being nonsense.

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:27

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:19

Once again, the amount of alcohol in a product that is not age restricted is not enough to hurt anyone. There is as much in a couple of over-ripe bananas.

Not matter how many times you say it, it doesn't stop being nonsense.

Edited

Sadly it’s not nonsense. Alcohol is a toxin to the body. The liver processes the alcohol rapidly because it is a danger. You can go on about bananas and the wine that you’re drinking but do have a think about what you’re putting into your body right now.

kkloo · 17/04/2024 21:29

Kneeslikethese · 17/04/2024 21:10

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front and the back. What more do people want?

We want it to say it in the name or description.
Why is that so difficult to understand? It really shouldn't be that difficult at all.

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:30

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:27

Sadly it’s not nonsense. Alcohol is a toxin to the body. The liver processes the alcohol rapidly because it is a danger. You can go on about bananas and the wine that you’re drinking but do have a think about what you’re putting into your body right now.

Edited

Currently I'm eating a delicious flapjack. It's lovely, thank you.

And you are, without doubt, talking out of your arse.

The product was labelled twice with "contains alcohol" for an amount of booze that cannot hurt anyone. Meanwhile, you want the messaging for actual allergens to be diluted because... reasons.

I mean, what more do you want? A fucking barbershop quartet standing next to it singing a warning to you?

LittleGlowingOblong · 17/04/2024 21:31

Complete & utter tangent, but it involves supermarkets and alcohol….

…..why on earth do they put the non alcoholic versions right next to the alcoholic versions, and not with the soft drinks?

If you’re struggling with an alcohol problem, you have to walk amongst the alcohol aisles to access the booze-free alternatives. Seems stupid.

Ok, rant over!

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:34

kkloo · 17/04/2024 21:29

We want it to say it in the name or description.
Why is that so difficult to understand? It really shouldn't be that difficult at all.

I would think that listing every ingredient contained within a food product would start to get a bit long winded after a while.

I mean, my flapjack would have to be called a chocolate porridge oat sugar golden syrup butter bar, and honestly there isn't enough room on the label for that even before you get down to some of the other things.

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:36

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:30

Currently I'm eating a delicious flapjack. It's lovely, thank you.

And you are, without doubt, talking out of your arse.

The product was labelled twice with "contains alcohol" for an amount of booze that cannot hurt anyone. Meanwhile, you want the messaging for actual allergens to be diluted because... reasons.

I mean, what more do you want? A fucking barbershop quartet standing next to it singing a warning to you?

Edited

Nope - I’ve not said anything about diluting the allergy notifications.

soupfiend · 17/04/2024 21:37

mrsdineen2 · 17/04/2024 21:00

I generally am trying to avoid giving my children vodka tbh. I'd have just previously felt a little paranoid and ott to be scrutinising every item in case someone's added it to the small print.

If you wouldnt want your kids to absorb ANY alcohol, (whereas I wouldnt mind my kids having these chocolate pots), then presumably yes you would check ingredients, certainly medicines, chocolates

Im unclear why there is such a clamour on this thread to claim that alcohol in puds or chocolate puds is unusual, its very usual.

kkloo · 17/04/2024 21:41

LittleGlowingOblong · 17/04/2024 21:31

Complete & utter tangent, but it involves supermarkets and alcohol….

…..why on earth do they put the non alcoholic versions right next to the alcoholic versions, and not with the soft drinks?

If you’re struggling with an alcohol problem, you have to walk amongst the alcohol aisles to access the booze-free alternatives. Seems stupid.

Ok, rant over!

I don't think people who struggle with alcohol problems are supposed to be drinking the alcohol free versions either though are they?
Some of the alcohol free drinks do also have small amounts of alcohol. Heineken 0.0 has a very small amount but it's in it all the same. I'm not sure how that's written on the can though!

I believe that for some who struggle with alcohol that the non-alcoholic versions can lead them back to the alcoholic ones but I suppose there probably are some people who find it helpful!

TunnocksOrDeath · 17/04/2024 21:45

6Y5T · 17/04/2024 06:50

Cooking normally removes the alcohol content, leaving just the flavour

Some supermarket deserts have booze added and its never cooked at all, like tiramisu or trifle. If OP could taste 'alcohol' rather than 'wine' or 'whiskey' then it was still there.