Work colleague been paid more

[CleaningAngel]

Without going into too much detail to out myself.
A new girl has just been taken on at where we work part time, myself and my other work colleagues who are full time, have found out she is on 1.50 per hr more than us, all doing the same job, we know this as she gleefully told us.
Obviously we are all pissed off about this,one colleague has been there 7 yrs so rightfully pissed off,it's really eating us, the others darnt say anything , but iam going to say something it's absolutely out of order.
Now here's the thing, I can fire in the heat of the moment, I can say something if it comes up in conversation where iam led into broaching the subject, BUT initiating the conversation like saying to my boss 'could I have a word please'....... iam.useless.
Please could some of you lovely mums netters help me, iam.aiming to say something Monday!!

Are you on minimum wage? Are you sure your wage hasn't gone up too?

Is she on a zero hours contract?

I work for my local council and the casual zero hours staff earn slightly more per hour, due to having no holiday pay.

To answer your question, just ask for a quiet word and ask them to explain the pay policy for part-timers.

Unless you are in a regulated industry (NHS, teaching) I am not really sure what you can do about it. Your employer is within their rights to pay whatever they want to whomever they want as long as it is above minimum wage.
If I were you, I would ask for pay rise but leave everyone else's salary well out of it. Ask for an annual review, get some evidence of your performance and go from there.

I would bring this up on email so there was an audit trail but I’d just be matter of fact and ask for it to be looked in to and your pay brought into line.

I had this happen to me a while back at an old job and I remained pleasant but firm that it needed to be resolved.

what industry and role are you in?that will make a difference in how people can advise you

YNBU but how did you find out? This is breach of GDpR and could lead to someone being sacked. It won’t work out well for you in the end.

@Overtheatlantic the new girl told them.

Do you get 1 to 1 throughout the year? I'd probably mention it then. However prior to the 1 to 1 I'd list all my job roles, what I do extra and basically sell myself that I am working above others in the same role who are paid more. You are armed with your case properly then rather than tit for tat sort of thing. You don't need to pick names you are just making it clear you know. If you don't get one after then they don't value your skillset and you move on.

I once left a role and someone internally from another department applied for it. My line manager flipped her lid when she realised that admin staff in other departments were being paid more than we were. Those who were in an operational role, required qualifications and covering work outside of standard hours etc. She recruited internally only after everyone else in the same role was made to have a pay rise to match the other departments. I met up with my line manager on the outside years after I left and she apologised. For years we both did the same role and I was earned less than her due to experience. So therefore I was on even lower than everyone else. She apologised for not listening when I said we should be paid more on par with other companies.

Take the emotion out of it. As a business their job is to get as much work out of you for as little money as possible. Its not personal. Your job is to get as much as possible.

First of all work out what leverage you have. 'She has more' wont necessarily cut it because there is a whole host of reasons that cause legitimate pay differences.

Leverage includes do you do things not in your JD, have you become expert in systems or processes, what do similar jobs pay, ultimately are you prepared to quit if you dont get more?

Go in with that, 'Good Afternoon, I want to put some time in with you to discuss my pay. I have been here for x years and have mastered these skills. This expertise means I could get x wage at other companies but I enjoy working here and feel I add value. i know the market value of a new starter would be y and I would like that matched.'

Youll get fobbed off with 'We only discuss this at reviews, I have no power etc

Go back with, 'well I appreciate your time but I am looking to ensure my pay is in line with others so if this can't be matched I will have to explore other opportunities'

It's in the OP we know this as she gleefully told us, it is not a breach of GDPR.

You need to raise it with your manager

There was no GDPR breach.

Why do people post like this? They clearly know zero and yet post like they’re definitely right. It’s bizarre.

Raise a formal grievance. It's the only way to have a formal, minuted meeting and you must be given an outcome.

Resentfully fuming and informal chats will change nothing.

The girl in question you'd us all, but not all a same time , told us individually, despite apparently been told not to discuss her pay with us

It will of gone up when we get out April pay at end of April. She is on £12 per hr were on £10.50. But then as of 1st its gone up were on £11.50 she's on £13

No not on zero hrs contract, she is contracted to do 3 full days per week Wednesday Thursday Friday.
I do 3.5 days a week, the other 2 girls are full time, but paid hourly like we all are.

Is she more qualified or experienced than you are? Has she more skills she can bring to the job? As previous poster said, list your skills and qualities, and ask your manager for a meeting and pay review. Leave it out what she's on, that's irrelevant as she negotiated her own contract, so too should you.

Go back with, 'well I appreciate your time but I am looking to ensure my pay is in line with others so if this can't be matched I will have to explore other opportunities'
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Where I work, you'd be told to make your own choices and look elsewhere if that's what you want. . Unless something has changed substantially in your role and responsibilities we don't usually negotiate salaries with existing employees. The exception is if someone in a senior role was needed in a specialist position and they showed us a job offer. We might match it to keep them. But only in exceptional circumstances.^

Have they had difficulty recruiting?

Dm once discovered she was on more than double the rest of the teachers at a new school she was teaching at. She was on £4.50/hr - they were on £2.
Tbf even £4.50 was very low. This was in the 80s so you can see how low it was. Most of the staff (very small private school) had been teaching there for 30 years plus and did it more for love and support than money.

But apparently they'd been trying to recruit a maths teacher for around 2 terms, and at least a couple of people phoning up to ask about it and laughed and put the phone down when told £2 an hour, so the admin was told, "just get us someone who can do it" and she decided to try upping the wage.

However it did mean that when they realised how poor the wage was and started trying to bring it in line with "normal" wages, then dm didn't get as much of a rise, and I think they were on about the same within 2 years or so.

Absolutely not any more experienced than us at all, doesn't have any qualifications, it's not a job that requires any.
And certainly doesn't have the experience of the other girl I work with who's been there 7 years, and obvs equally as pissedvoff as iam.
She has kind of come in like a wrecking ball and tried to take over, even telling our boss what to do, it's an old established family run firm, that ticks along nicely, if we want a holiday we just ask it gets approved and then written on the calendar. This girl got hold of calendar other day and just carte blanch wrote all her holidays down without asking.
My friend is fuming she had to for go her holidays last year due to short staffed.
This new girl, has not made herself popular since been there